[ Remington Model 1890 ]
Hi guys, thanks for tuning in to another video on ForgottenWeapons.com.
I'm Ian McCollum and I am here today at Morphy's
with a Remington Model of 1890 revolver.
Now this thing looks an awful lot like a
Colt Single Action Army, and that is no coincidence.
But let's go back a little bit to the revolver
that Remington made fairly successfully in the Old West era,
that would be the Remington Model of 1875 here.
This did well, it was ... a competitor to Colt.
It was never going to overtake Colt in popularity or sales.
But they were good guns, well respected, and Remington sold a bunch of them.
However, by the 1880s the company was running into financial trouble for other reasons,
and in 1886 it goes into receivership.
So Remington would reform as a new company, it became the Remington Arms Company.
And in 1888 controlling interest passed into the hands of a guy named Marcellus Hartley.
Now Hartley had a bunch of other interests. And by the way, Hartley was a 50% owner of Remington,
the other 50% was at this point owned by the Winchester Company.
We'll come back to that in a moment.
Hartley had also been a founding partner in a company called Schuyler, Hartley & Graham,
which was a massive firearms dealer in the United States.
They were actually the biggest in the 1860s.
Think of them as kind of similar to Bannermans, they sold guns, ammo, accessories, all that sort of stuff.
So Marcellus Hartley coming in and taking over a controlling share in Remington,
this wasn't his first experience in the firearms industry.
And ... very quickly in 1888 the first deal that he arranges related to this thing
is Remington sells a bunch of leftover Model 1875 parts to Hartley's gun company.
Not Remington, but Hartley & Graham.
And they use these things to put together what they call a Model of 1888 revolver.
Which is essentially, "What can we take from the old Remington stock
that we can throw together pretty quickly and easily, and just sell some pistols."
And Remington of course needed money ... and weren't really set up to be doing much
because of their insolvency, so they sold the parts off. Those get built and sold.
And within just a couple of years as Remington gets its act together, it looks at this and goes,
"You know what, we could have done this ourselves. We don't need to subcontract
this assembly and sale out to Marcellus's ... other company. Like, we can do it within Remington."
And that is the genesis of the Model 1890.
So let's take a closer look at it, and I'll show you what exactly they did with this.
Here is our 1890.
Here is the Remington 1875, from which it was basically built.
And here is the Colt Single Action Army, which it was basically built to look like.
So you can see ... the main visible distinctive feature of the 1875
is this large triangular ejector support piece.
And what they did on these guys is they actually had those pieces originally built into the ejectors.
These were made largely from parts and tooling from the 1875 to minimise cost.
But they just cut out the bottom of that ejector support.
Schuyler & Hartley's Model 1888s had done ... that, again just in order to make it look more like a Colt.
And with the 1890, Remington continued that exact same practice.
If you look at the frames, things like how the trigger guard is attached
and their position of the action screws, all of these things are essentially identical.
The 1890 is very much an 1875 that's been kind of worked over a little bit aesthetically.
These were offered in either blued or nickel finish. This one is blued, or was blued.
And they were offered with either 5.75 inch or 7.5 inch barrel lengths.
... Barrel lengths at this time period in revolvers were always a little bit of plus and minus.
This one's a little closer to 5.5, but the standards were 5.75 and 7.5.
Which are, not coincidentally, the two ... longer common barrel lengths
that Colt offered in its Single Action Army.
We've got a marking on the top of the barrel that is Remington Arms Company, Ilion, New York.
That is the reformed name of Remington after its bankruptcy.
These were all 6 shot guns, all chambered for .44-40.
Or as it's marked here, "44 C.F.W." - centre fire Winchester.
... Usually on guns you will see that referred to as "WCF", Winchester centre fire.
Why not offer them in .45 Colt? Well, aside from the fact that it says "Colt",
Hartley was a founding member of Union Metallic Cartridge.
And he would certainly have wanted to do what he could to promote the cartridges
that his own company had the biggest stake in, like say, Winchester cartridges. ...
And that's about all there is to it. Functionally this is just like a Colt Single Action Army.
It's a single action revolver.
Open up the loading gate. You've got a manual ejector rod here,
(there we go) for ejecting cases.
You load it one at a time, eject it one at a time.
Basic single action revolver manual of arms.
The Model 1890s go on sale in 1891, and sales would last a grand total of 4 years.
A total of 2,020 of these revolvers would be made, that's it, that's a tiny number.
This was a complete commercial failure.
And it wasn't really a failure because of the quality of the gun, it's a perfectly fine gun. ...
Remington had lots of experience making this sort of thing by this point, and they did a good job on it.
The problem was people just weren't really interested anymore.
This is the 1890s, there's lots of double-action revolvers out there.
This is ... old-fashioned technology, and that's how the market approached it.
The cowboy era was gone, the cowboy era was not looked back on reminiscently yet,
the way it would be in the 1950s and '60s.
People wanted double-action revolvers, they didn't want .44-40, they didn't want single action.
"Yeah, it looks like a Colt Single Action Army. If I want a Colt Single Action Army
I'll buy a Colt Single Action Army."
And so within just a few years Remington would abandon this.
The last ... significant sales were in 1894. There was one documented pistol
assembled and sold in 1896, and that was the very end of it.
Now it's also worth pointing out, I mentioned at the beginning of this video that
50% of Remington was actually owned by the Winchester Company
in the aftermath of its bankruptcy.
Well, this pistol was also sort of a way for Winchester to take a poke at Colt.
Winchester and Colt had a long-standing sort of gentleman's agreement
that Winchester wouldn't make revolvers, and Colt wouldn't make lever-action rifles.
They would leave each other to dominate those two fields of the business.
But nothing said that Remington couldn't make revolvers.
And so Winchester was able to kind of get a little bit of a dig in, ...
they owned 50% of this thing and well, we'll just set up Remington to make it instead of us.
I don't know how much of that was a serious commercial play for sales,
and how much of it was just sort of a,
"We're competing companies, and we like to take a pot shot at each other when we can."
Ultimately it had no effect on Colt, and really no effect on Remington either
because the sales of the 1890 were small enough that they didn't accomplish anything substantial.
So, that is the story on the Remington 1890. Hopefully you guys enjoyed the video.
Thanks for watching.