-You got an invitation to go to the White House.
Maybe you could tell us a little bit of that story,
how that invitation came about,
and then, what happened to you in the White House,
because I've read some of the accounts,
and they're, um, well, I'll let you tell the story.
I don't wanna say that they're shocking,
but, I mean, the pretty intense meeting with the president.
Maybe you could you tell us a little bit
about how you got invited and then what happened.
-Intense was definitely correct.
-So, we were we were in the States as a family.
We were trying to raise awareness
of what happened to Harry.
We just got to do another interview,
when our adviser had a phone call
saying that a senior official with the White House
would like to see us that day.
So obviously, we was in New York,
and then we had to decide if we wanted to go
and how we were going to get there.
So we had a talk and a chat and thought, yes,
we should go and see how this can help us.
-A very brief -- a very brief chat, really.
We were only six, seven weeks past losing our boy,
and we didn't really know where our lives were heading.
We still don't.
We're not really any much more clear on that right now.
But it was a case of we would have reached out
and spoken to anybody that was willing to listen to us.
-And it wasn't until we actually got to the White House
that we realized it was the president we were seeing.
So I think it was like a whirlwind.
It went so quick.
I don't know really if you had time
to sort of register what was going on
until we actually got into the Oval Office.
It was quite a -- -You're just --
You're just in the mode of trying to get officials to see
that Harry really mattered.
You know, he was our boy.
I gave birth to that boy.
And at the age of 19 years and four months,
I was robbed of that child.
No one was being held accountable for that.
And he was quite welcoming when we first got there,
when we were first shown to what I now know was the Oval Office.
And he made a comment to Tim about the fact
that he'd seen him on the TV,
and things seemed quite lighthearted
from President Trump's point of view.
But it was very, very clear from the off
that there was an underlying current,
there was an underlying plan.
-Make a right turn where you're supposed to make a left turn.
The roads are opposite.
And she said that's what happened.
That happens to a lot of people, by the way.
But she said that's what happened.
She was in the room right out there.
We met right here in this area.
And I offered to bring the person in question in,
and they weren't ready for it.
I thought they were, based on what I saw.
They wanted to meet.
But now they say they only want to meet if they're in the UK,
and that'll be up to them.
But I did meet the family,
and I expressed condolences on behalf of our country.
-So when President Trump actually told us
that she was in the next room and willing to meet,
it was shocking to us
that we would be thrown into that situation.
Totally wrong, not just for us, like I said,
but for her as well.
President Trump didn't really take no for an answer.
He offers the meeting a few times over.
-Like, what kinds of words did he use to encourage you
to meet with the woman who had driven into your son?
-He told me that she was a very nice lady.
-Yeah, in the room next door.
-"The young lady's in the room next door.
Let's get some healing," were his words.
-Say again. -"Let's get some healing."
-"Let's get some healing" Not -- It was not good.
Unfortunately, nothing was going to heal our hearts
and our minds back then,
and there's no healing of them now.
We were very vocal about wanting to find a way forward
that we would all be able to find a path
to some sort of solace,
to some sort of healing that President Trump
was trying to get us to do in front of all of the media.
So I was very open about the fact that I felt
that it was a silly thing for her
to have fled the UK like she did,
because things dramatically changed after that.
To be forced to have that meeting with her,
the media afterwards called it a publicity stunt.
We were so fragile at the time,
I think, to believe that somebody would do that.
That's when we realized that all of the press
had been set up on the South Lawn,
and we were ushered out of a different entrance
away from all of that press.
I think it did start to dawn on us, actually,
because we didn't give President Trump what he was looking for.
We just want the lady responsible
to go through the UK justice system.
We get on with our lives and try to rebuild,
because all we've done is exist and manage
and cope for the last 12 months.
We haven't thought to live yet,
but it would be nice to hear directly from her
because we have no understanding of what her life is like.
But I can't imagine that she truly
is being able to move on and forget what she's done.
You know, like I said,
she was told on her birthday that she'd killed Harry.
So Harry's 12-month anniversary, her birthday's the next day.
So is she going to celebrate her birthday
when we're saddened about our boy?