- $2000 Steel Roll Cage.
- Versus $4000 top of the line,
Chromoly Roll Cage.
- Does more expensive mean more better?
- Let's find out.
- We're back baby!
(shouts)
- Go!
(upbeat music)
(drilling noises)
- [James] A huge thanks to our friends at Keeps
for sponsoring today's episode of HiLow.
Today, we come to you D-holes
- With some important heart-wrenching news.
- Two out of three of you guys
- Will experience some sort of male pattern baldness
- By the time
you're 35.
(sniffs)
(slow piano music)
- I'm looking at you Derek in Iowa.
- And you, Ted in North Carolina!
- You will lose your hair!
- But not PaganiGaming because he listened to us.
And used Keeps, I assume, I don't know.
Is it too late for PaganiGaming?
- Keeps changed the process of getting hair loss medication.
- Before Keeps we all had to spend awkward mornings
at the doctors office.
- Hiding behind magazines in shame of the failing follicles
on top of your head.
- The embarrassment.
- The shame.
(sighs)
- And the pain (gulps).
- But now, thanks to Keeps it's easy to hold on to that hair
by offering online doctor visits for hair loss medication.
- That is being delivered to your door every three months.
- But, it's important you act sooner rather than later.
- As Keeps treatments typically take
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- The results (chuckles)
the results speak for themselves.
- So avoid the awkward doctor visits
and horrible comb overs.
- Visit keeps.com/hilow and get 50% off your first order.
- That K-E-E-P-S.com/HiLow
- Support the companies that support Donut,
so we're able to do another season of HiLow.
- We bought two identical Nissan 350z's
and we've modifying them to be fun daily drivers
that you can take to the track.
- One Z gets expensive parts,
and of them gets cheap parts.
- Cause that's all that they deserve.
We've thrown a bunch of parts on these things,
I'm talking coil overs, - Brakes!
- [James] Wheels and tires,
- [Nolan] Seats!
- And
(car engine growls)
Turbo Kits dude!
And now these cars are so fast
that we had to install roll cages because we're scared.
I'm getting a professionally installed $4000,
4-Point bolt in, custom painted
and color matched chromoly roll cage.
- [Nolan] And I'm getting a $2000, 4-Point bolt in,
steel roll cage that I will have to install myself.
We know that $2000 isn't cheap.
- I don't have $2000 (chuckles).
- But we tried to do it for cheap
and we all know how that went.
- I just spent six hours trying to fit our roll cages in.
(drilling noise)
And we're throwing in the towel.
Lesson learned!
We cheaped out and we bought identical $200 half cages
of on the internet.
And then we found out what you get
with a $200 half cage of the internet.
This time around, we decided that the best option
would be cages that were made specifically for our cars.
- But, there are a lot of different options
when it comes to cages.
How do you know which cage you need?
Does it matter if you have a bolt in cage
versus welded in.
And what does 4-Point even mean?
What about 6-Point?
There's a lot of misinformation
and keyboard warriors out there when it comes to roll cages.
So let's just jump right in!
(bass guitar)
- [James] This place is sick!
- [Man] Funny seeing you boys here
(welding noise)
- Here we are at Studio RSR, this guys build a ton of cages!
These guys are nice enough to bring out two cars.
One with a 4-Point roll cage,
one with a 6-Point roll cage.
- So, this is your basic 4-Point roll cage.
It's got a main hoop here,
that follows the B-Pillar of the car.
And has two points that mount onto the floor.
And you got two more bars
going back towards the rear of the car,
which completes the triangle shape.
It's very strong.
- Although, this is a basic 4-Point
it's good enough for most NASA ans SCCA events,
which are the most popular events
that we'd be partaking in, in America.
- A 6-Point roll cage adds two more points of contact
between the cage and the chassis.
With bars running along the roof
and down the A-Pillar like a sew.
A lot of times, they'll have door bars
connecting this front bar to the main hoop.
Which look really cool, but are kind of a pain in the ass
getting in and out of.
(hits car)
(sighs)
- You really shouldn't necessarily run a 6-Point cage
unless you're willing to wear a helmet
when you go to the grocery store.
Some people say that if you have a bucket seat
with harnesses and you're using everything correctly
that you'll be okay,
but the fact is,
the roll cage is gonna be closer to your head
than the stock structure would've been.
And it might obstruct your side curve airbags.
For that reason, I don't think we're going with a 6-Point.
- Better save than sorry when it comes to my melon.
- [Aaron] Maybe that's just the--
- [Man] That might just be that.
This it the cage for Low car.
I can tell cause it's still uncoated
and out of the car cause we gotta install it in Low car.
But this thing looks pretty sick.
Let's go look at Hi car.
Oh!
Dude!
- [Aaron] All right, a little jealous, a little bit.
- [Man] That matches the wheel so well.
So, this is Hi car's cage - A little bit,
just a little bit.
- And it looks sick!
I bet I'll be able to feel the difference.
- It should--
- We'd probably pick up a wheel.
- Yeah, probably should stiffen things up a little bit,
you'd think, you know.
(hammering)
- Well, let's get it in the van.
Take it back to the shop and stick it in.
- Cool.
- [Nolan] So today we are installing, finally a roll cage.
Unlike Hi car we are installing our cage ourselves,
which means we have to take the seats out,
take the plastic trim out,
maybe cut up some carpet to make it fit right.
All we're gonna need to do this job
are a few hand tools
and some gumption.
Now roll that music.
(R&B beat)
- So the first thing we're gonna do on Hi car
is install our harnesses.
On both cars we went with
these sexy Takata 4-Point harnesses.
4-Points means that
it attaches to the chassis at four different points.
One, two, three, four.
So pretty much this, but in there.
- [Aaron] We're taking out the seats
so we can put the low cage in pretty easily.
(drilling noise)
Just getting ready to drill some holes.
Gonna mark up the base of the cage,
draw out the holes to where we need to drill 'em
and then (drills) keep going.
Best part is, you come up on change
and tools,
and a bandaid.
- [Nolan] Our main concern right now is that,
we won't be able to keep our seating position
that we had set up
cause we really liked where we had it.
Should we stand it up?
- [Aaron] Yeah!
- [Nolan] Oh (beep)!
We're in.
Dude!
Bam!
Now, pull your side forward.
- [Aaron] This is holding it back here.
- Oh!
It's caught on the plastic.
- [Zach] So, right now I just replaced the
first bolt from the stock seatbelt
with the Takata eyelid.
James removed the top bolt for the seatbelt,
and then I just now need to remove
the bolt from the stock buckle,
and then replace that bolt
with another one of these eyelids.
The (beep) is this for?
- Okay, so we do have a small problem.
So, we're having a small, small fitment issue.
(grunts)
Front fits, but the rear does not fit.
So, it's almost a full inch gap.
(hammers)
That needs to go back further,
which is kind of an issue.
I'll hit the top of it.
- [Nolan] Okay.
- To try to, give it like supreme leverage.
- [Nolan] That's moving a little bit, but--
I mean there's still a big gap.
- Well good thing is, we're only five minutes in.
- [Nolan] Yeah!
- We wrapped the seatbelt around the cage
and then back through this D-ring a couple different times
and it locks, it doesn't come off.
This is my first time wrapping some harnesses on a cage,
but it's pretty easy, they give you a little diagram
can't screw it up.
- [Nolan] You know, Low team is just in a perpetual state
of traveling in between screwed and not screwed,
so this is normal.
I really wish they'd just gave us a sheet of instructions.
- Over, around, back up, over.
(hammers)
- We don't know if the other holes
on the front part - Right.
on those feet are lining up, so what we should do
we jack up the rear of the car,
bolt up these back ones,
and then - Try to get the front--
- [Nolan] We make the front work.
We should peel away more of the carpet
and see where the holes are
cause we just might be making a dumb mistake,
which knowing our history
we have done.
- He's got a point.
- It's so much work.
- [Zach] Check out this freaking belt dude.
Ready for this?
(grunts)
- [Aaron] That's it!
On one side--
- Let's do that side
- [Aaron] Yeah, yeah, okay.
Take this.
This way? - Yeah
- [Aaron] Or down?
- Down, down, down, down.
There!
(cheers)
- Take it out! - [Man] Perfect fit!
- [Aaron] Re do it, get the shot!
- [Man] No, we got it.
- (beep) Aaron.
- So, it's a little too tight
to get the eyelid on down there to bolt in the harness,
so we are gonna have to take out this seat,
but compared with what's going on with the other guys.
- Remember Nolan that's gotta come out again,
so don't all the way tight it.
- You're joking right?
- Well, we gotta mock it up and we gotta drill the holes.
- What holes?
These ones, down here?
(clears throat)
- To open this up
(sighs)
- So we have to take this whole (beep) thing out?
- Not technically just--
Don't worry just breathe.
(grunts)
Breathe.
- All right, all right!
I'm not doing anymore.
- Let's try to get the back mounted up,
- [Nolan] Okay
- First.
And then we can deal with the front.
- Okay, I think it fits.
- You know, how like you guys just buy
what you guys want for that car,
so do you guys think that you really need tools?
Cause you keep taking our tools and we actually need them
to build our car.
- I'm didn't take your tools.
You're manufacturing drama here.
All right, what is this Velocity channel?
- I'm just saying man.
(laughs)
- Over here on team Hi,
our roll cage was already professionally installed,
so we don't have to that.
So, what are we gonna do?
- Well, this is a race car
and what do race cars have?
$1500 carbon fiber door panels.
(laughs)
Ridiculous!
- [Nolan] Could you drop it?
On the jacks? - Sure
(grunts in pain)
(beep)
- You all right? - Yeah.
What happened?
(sighs)
- Do I have a nice shiner?
Got hit right there
with the jack.
Anything?
- [Aaron] Yeah, a little bit.
- Okay.
- Nolan and Aaron are having a pretty tough a bit right now,
so we thought that we'd cheered them up
and show the steezy new door cards that we ordered for them.
I think they're gonna love them.
- Have not seen these yet, so
I hope there's not a (beep) on them or anything.
(laughs)
- [Man] No (beep) way dude!
(laughs)
(beep)
- This one has the whole crew on it.
- [Nolan] Oh my God!
I love (chuckles)
- [James] That's from Albuquerque.
- [Man] Yeah.
- Dude, I love it!
That's amazing!
Thank you guys!
I love it, I love it!
We'll get these in.
We'll get our lovely custom door cards in,
but first we gotta get the cage in.
- So, I'm just marking the base plate for our bolt in cage.
It's a little bit tweaked,
so we're going to drill the flange on the car.
(drilling noise)
- [Aaron] I can see holes in now.
- [Nolan] I can see holes man.
- [Aaron] Hell yeah!
- [Nolan] Dude, nice job.
#Low.
Just like that, Low car, it's official.
Get yours at Donutmedia.com right now.
- [Zach] So, we decided to be cheeky and cute
and get ourselves a side project
cause we didn't have enough to do today.
Just installing our harnesses,
so we decided to pick up those seibon carbon door panels
and it has just been the bane of my existence.
It's been about six hours now,
I've been trying to fit 'em and trim 'em.
Well, that switch feels nasty now.
- [Nolan] All right, so we have all the fasteners in here
to finger tight.
Now, what we're gonna do is
tighten up the rears to the chassis,
come back up here,
tighten them up here
and throw the seats in and pray to God they fit.
Roll cage, is in.
(clinking)
(sighs)
- Now that the roll cage is in,
we can finally trim the rear piece
for this rear structs.
Trim the plastic around the roll cage,
we can test fit the seats.
- [Aaron] They're gonna fit!
- Let's do it.
- Well, the seat fits
just in a much further forward position
than we're used to.
A little tight.
(banging noise)
- There we go.
We're gonna try to close the door,
make sure that the--
It closes, make sure it doesn't hit the door jam
or our big ole seats,
or make any weird, funny, crunchy noises.
(slams door)
Well, there's definitely a weird, funny, crunchy noise.
(slams door)
- [Man] That fits!
But you have to really slam it.
- Perfect fitment!
I think this is the first, real big L for Hi car.
Obviously we had the cage, the first time around.
That didn't go so good, but these just don't fit very well.
I mean, they're good enough to stay on the car, but
I am not pleased.
- Okay - We here!
It all works, that's a real relief.
- [Aaron] To tell you the truth,
it took Hi team like the whole day
because they don't really work on their car
to install their door panels.
So, it only took Nolan like, maybe 45 minutes.
- [Nolan] An hour.
- [Aaron] An hour.
- [Nolan] We have the interior of Low car
pretty much dialed in.
We're gonna do some other stuff,
in a few episodes, to make it a little more swaggy in here.
But, I mean,
we're finally where it should've been last season.
(upbeat music)
- [James] After Low team finished installing the cage,
we took both cars to our super secret test facility
to see if we can notice
any difference in rigidity in the chassis.
- Oh!
(laughs)
- [Zach] So another thing I've been noticing
specially when the rear end comes out like that
is just how stiff the car feels now.
And I think that has a lot to do with the roll cage.
- I think this cage is a bunch of really thick holes,
just bolt in stress points of the car together.
- It's added the right rigidity, I think.
- Yeah - For sure.
- So, not only does it add more safety,
it adds a lot more stiffness to the chassis.
- It does because nothing else that we've done
has really stiffen up the chassis
and this thing feels tight!
- Yeah.
- But, I kinda wanna pitch this thing man.
- Okay, let's do it.
- Okay.
(car engine revving)
(yells)
- Oh no!
We're rolling!
(yells)
- So, Nolan - Yes.
Does more expensive mean, more better?
- I don't think so, question mark.
- But kind of?
- To a certain extent, more expensive does mean more better.
Because as you've saw in the previous video
we tried to cheap out on our roll cages
and they didn't fit at all.
- Oh yeah! So, I think--
- Okay, that kind of changes the discussion a little bit.
Expensive is way better,
if you're comparing universal--
I don't remember how much those cost,
$200? - Yeah.
If you're gonna have a roll cage in your car
spend the money to make it
something that'll actually fit and safe your life.
- There is a certain point that you don't wanna go below.
You wanna get a cage that is made for your specific car.
- [Nolan] Absolutely.
- [James] You might be wondering,
why did we get something that bolt's in
and not have a thoroughly custom cage built for Hi car?
And the answer is,
everything on these cars is available of the shelf.
You can go to Studio RSR and get this very cage.
So, the difference between the $200 universal cage,
to Low car's $2000 cage,
I do think that more expensive definitely means more better,
but the difference between Low car's $2000 cage
and Hi car's $4000 cage, the difference is pretty minimal.
So, Nolan, which one would you buy?
- I would go with the Low car's cage.
It looks amazing as I've said.
I actually like the white, I think it pops.
- I agree, I would go with Low car's cage
and I would also go with Low car's door panels.
- Oh, yeah!
- The installation was way easier,
our carbon fiber door panels fall off daily.
- I just wanna say how excited I am to be back in HiLow!
Back in these chairs talking with you.
- Hey man!
- We were--
I don't know this is like the best show ever.
- Yeah, this is the best show ever.
- And I wanna thank you guys for watching
and making it possible that we'd get to do it again.
So thank you!
- Thank You!
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It's so freaking funny dude.
Be kind.
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- See you next time!