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mania you cannot be serious
yeah and he's gone was it in or was it
out
my name is John Doran and I write about
music in this series of British masters
I have talked to many legendary figures
from the history of British popular
music from Johnny Marr to John Lydon and
from Jimmy Page to Richard Ashcroft all
of these people are enduring talents who
have risen to the top of their fields
out of everyone I have taught to
probably none of them are as instantly
recognizable and well-loved as my next
guest and probably none of them has much
to say for themselves the frontman of
Oasis one of the largest groups this
country has ever produced Liam Gallagher
disappeared from the public eye four
years ago but now he's back with his
first solo album as you were I spent two
days with him recently
one taking a walk across Hampstead Heath
and the other down the pub I'd like to
welcome Liam Gallagher to British
masters they've tried to go it's all
good let's do it yeah so this series is
called British masters and like over the
last few years I've interviewed people
like John Lydon Johnny Marr Jimmy Page
do you see yourself as being in my kind
of a lineage with these other rock stars
better than I don't I see myself as one
of the food great rock and roll'
singers on the planet without a doubt
songwriting that's not my bag without
cost meself more as a single certainly
better than Johnny round and band John
Lydon do you get a lot of people just
bumping into you in the street you
immediately think right let's go to the
pub that you a few yeah it's not even a
pint these days normally it's just
stating fronting line in the pipe Amarna
don't know what decade you're they love
it but they say the night you
you've been announced that you're
playing Glastonbury this summer and I'm
what are your memories of like the first
time you played Glastonbury first time I
played Glastonbury yeah mines good to be
young he's great one I remember coming
off stains on the clothes robbed
I remember neatly someone some very
strange kid who come up to me and he
thought I had cocaine amia no man
Liam Gallagher nah
and the command box of Isis or obviously
sketching it during the day enough and
there's a little white bits of and
it was taken out on the air putting on
the guns and putting up the nose
overlap okay Jimmy catch yourself being
out now at some kind of ridiculous kind
of celebrity / no no never late and you
won't catch me because I don't got one
it was full of cons in the nighties and
a you know I just think what
what the light now these days
you know I mean so if then I didn't get
on with a man I've done a few in the
nighties and just bailed man and carried
on - we're back to whatever was fun so
where do you used to go to school and I
went to state max which is the secondary
school which is in kids but it was your
most hectic teacher said a geezer call
mr. Smith and he was a cockney look like
John Lennon proper epic stunk of
coffee where did I at you boy any grub
you buy the thing and all that
we made a wrap up of art and called the
satrap and calling sassy yeah mr. Spock
is a squat my name's session on the best
I've got great big hairy chest
some of my men he finally they'd always
hear loss added another verse to
it but he's you by your icon are
your kids like a conjurer it's kind of
what you know use culture or whatever
Leonard's got a classic than these are
it's even a Grateful Dead and he's
always been telling me some one weird
like Oh King over on the ground
stuff on that kill well as genes more
grime on and stuffing like alright
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so have you been watching the trip with
yes Rob Brydon leave - you love it look
dude and love Rob Brydon
well cougar mortal could you just look
at him and just go even though he's
cleaned up he's on up somebody
saying that he just looks like
is close to the bomb but it was used to
power them by power driven once there
was a wedding going on me and Emma
started above and a couple of
chinks in this dungeon thing anyway all
the people come in the going that
occasionally you're going to sing
Wonderwall nah
I'm singing one the Walmart no
none of that nonsense and I think that
just round about that time it was out I
was going I singing on that he's
gonna leave him alone I'll sing
a song and they don't think we really
new here and he got up on stage and sang
it's not unusual by Tom Jones but
mega but I'm at the bat laughing
rolling around rolled on our GSA don't
watch indefinite he's better singer than
you anyway go back to me 14 anyway I
think all the Guinness and we've gone up
to our room - whatever
none of that and then I think we crushed
out what we definitely crash now I woke
up in the morning and I see this lump
and I better go not God is this a little
tough on the and actually
secondly this fully cold he's gone oh
I've seen since yeah that was it I'm
serious there I'm ceilings in
you had a big night out with Mary
Donovan if we was in Argentina and we've
done a gig and the next minute we're
setting the bar VIN a drink a
load of about 30 people come
legging in like the anthill mob
we want you to Hills up sting
was at the bar crying because he's
noddy's dressing in the rug
anyway so found out was Maradona gone
upstairs with a load of mad ads
and load of women of the night
so we were going look can we just go up
a meeting my answer the
interpreter and the servicer is gone I
let me just go on square rooms
gone off come back now he's gone only
the Gallagher brothers can do so we will
have layers to the Podesta that man
steamed up there I'm going I'm got in
and his loads of activity going
on mother Donna's in the middle of the
room doing football tricks for
the bottle top and these eyes were
in my
and when ours weren't fired off and we
were just guy would go looks a bit movie
in air like this just get a
quick picture with him and we'll
off and he's sweating his
bollocks off and with an answer that
what did he just say he says he's told
me to tell you who's if you leave of any
of these he loved your shot
alright tell us about million John
McEnroe John McEnroe that was in New
York and with come off stage and he was
there he's you've got a great
guide man you want a giant we're
going yes John McEnroe you
mania because I'm gonna
button went straight on I've been off at
GLAAD build until today I think they're
gonna smoke everywhere going
exactly you cannot be serious
and we're going at me and he's
gone was Ely and I was around goo-gooing
out with it it was going up there's not
much direction where are okay yes ma'am
not seen him since Eva absolute with all
these people that come across
and once man are you more chilled out
out than you work for any of you a
little bit but I can I can you
know I can go from that line answer that
in anytime you are mean if
something arises not mean when was off
time you're in a situation where you
thought I'm not going to get out of this
either alive or without serious injury
since I've been in a few situations but
I always see the garden lose a couple of
teeth in there bill as I get some big
ones I'm not the smiley astir person so
it doesn't really matter what I've got
any in me I don't know you're on me what
was genuinely thinking about it is it's
like I remember it's clear it's a ballad
like you know that year of walking into
a pub and Oasis would be on the jukebox
and everyone be in the pub singing it
you've got a recording of you to having
a fire and it got into the chart yeah
don't you miss the madness of that yeah
without a doubt without a doubt that's
the beauty of evasive is everything went
anything won't you ugly and that's all
it's like that's the way we are on by I
was gone and I meet some fool she'll
come don't it
the renegotiation you're with if they
got and in my will displease my
don't know he's been honestly well
you've been right how about right or
what do you think I don't know that I
say goodnight rock'n'roll to me if you
think what should I leave are using
rock'n'roll wherever you want month like
this bill P it's nice enough okay L this
is beautiful I know it's not like being
in the park in long sight st. not old
minor parking levels you now a classic
of the weeks ago I was up there seen
your mom's got a mini sized
Stonehenge in there in my old fat lazy
dog fifty its what years too late
old could have done be seen that
years ago yeah yeah I heard but you ran
into Frankie datoria under older yeah
bumped into in once I was sitting out
drinking some argue it was mealy-mouthed
apology we make Adam and he's come over
any speedos Haney and all that sucker
he's joined in anyway and he's tearing
out he's gone he's gonna be back in a
second but he's gone at the shop
and bought me mater Brown other really
big bit big at the time and so he didn't
go down well with him anyway
the tequila's are flying and all that
circle and then it August he normally
just saw it just goes a bit
silly at some point I'm on the back of
him in his speaker bail him out and off
about eight hours and he's got your
speed I was on he's got a see my strong
legs and all that I was gone on
the back lot on the back and I'm proper
slapping him on your house I'm running
now on this guy and feed him since -
whatever happened to you being a guest
on countdown yeah I'm not going on that
one I like the noise do-do-do-do-do
that's about it you know I mean
sitting there NASA like that's
not familiar the latest one yeah which
will you come and sing hockey
Street for only fills and answers you
doing on for Manchester aren't there any
that you do I don't know a jump you want
to come to our gym will do any of that
bollocks
people aren't noticed I'm on a
different
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BDI split up in 2014 what did you do in
those three years mmm about them
all moaned a lot that's just a bit like
salt you know I'm just like sitting
there thinking right maybe this is all
it I mean you get me personal
intact and I got no songs I've got no
band maybe this is it maybe this maybe
that was the last bit of music now I'm
going to do so I was preparing just to
sort of leave quietly and then all of a
sudden so I messing about with a guitar
I think is a song called when I'm in
need popped up and then bold and
ingredie soul and a fire something's
happening it and I was getting up very
early in the morning three four and a
mind just going through the lyrics and
just get any right and here we are
it's 2017 and looking at over quarter of
a century of you might like making music
full-time why was this year the year to
do a solo album and I seem to have a lot
of drama in the last four years there's
a lot of that going on of to doing my
own doing at the bottom so lets you skip
us and remind people what I did
would be busy kristinia you bikini
paraphernalia
I'm thinking
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is this something about the process of
you being a solo star but you may not
lost all the words so Lord gives me a
theorem but it's just got to be
done I'm in a band now we've got a band
together and that so I feel a lot more I
mean if I was going out getting on my
own
that won't happen I mean the idea of
like an acoustic guitar and still is
still somewhere in the distance now that
mean is not in them
yeah you never I mean I thought I could
play guitar barely you know I mean it
might be too little soft getting up to
standing and doing it there's enough of
them out there doing nothing
like me as far as I said I'm talking
freedom
obviously you didn't have to answer to
anyone so I was wondering you know was
there any other kind of internal
conversation were you thinking right now
is my chance to get in someone to do a
flute solo get a marimba player in maybe
get the are caster in to do some kind of
cosmic space jazz get some footwork
beats go in now the rissalah there was a
bit of sax tried sneaking the door and
up when I got knocking stopped I look
cool in and out and tell me something
other than that card I mean correct me
if I'm wrong a lot of songs seem to be
about specific people they're about
everyone you not only about your mum
about their visit about me kids about me
she found it a way of kind of exercising
stuff you know right in these kind of
lyrics getting stuff off you with that
yeah because then you can move then you
can move on you know I mean they just
wait for the next batch to comes right
landing the plane in it
you're not like you know you get a lot
of that stuff where you're circling
before you've got to land the plane and
that for me once the landed and you can
move on and land another one you know I
mean before you know what you've got the
airwaves are clear it's the best form of
burn therapy ever
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young man
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why do you think that our Asus never
kind of clicked big-time with the kind
of audiences in the States and I feel a
bit too
ladee or English for them or whatever it
is
I mean happens but I'm quite happy with
the way we went down in America to be
brutally honest I think if we've got big
in America I'd be a proper
I'm not it'd be more famous or less
famous or not yet be so we kick bleep
out my career the funny missing that I
wanted to do so you want to get like a
massive world tour off the back of it no
I mean I'll go with wherever it goes
whether it goes small I'm prepared for
smaug's I've been small there's a goes
big I'm prepared for big I just wanted
get out the house to reboot me
honest and I'm similar do you know I
mean I've had four years of
about and sitting around and they ain't
good for yourself
you know I mean the data bit of death of
your mind being I mean nothing to do
you're not really so something mind just
to get out and do what I do sing songs I
feel that I'm in good Nick you've got a
really kind of touching song on there
for what it's worth and then I think
this will be like a real favorite
amongst people won't it that's got an
oasis you kind of feel a dot look back
in anger kind of feel I think it's
written is an apology isn't an actual
injury and you know what what do you
have to apologise kind of for I pissed
off a lot of people over the years and
some become all of it is the burning
question that everyone wants to knowing
it on algae cooked potatoes I'll do I
copper plated yeah take them boiling and
you put them in the on the night
until they get crispy and never cooks a
potato in my life so I could we have to
play it again
okay the tough partner yeah with a band
with you yeah is how you cook potato
that's one way of cookie dough yeah well
I'll do a couple if you smash them all
off all around the edges then put them
into the oven to bake so that's how you
have the crispy bits that's what I'm one
of our roles potatoes and I've knotted
up mash it
that's just violence but an absolute
like a nice cool thank you mate good
question
now you cook a potato