we're in trouble will weaken he's been a hundred a different movies and
television shows
of i was a i remember warren you my remember war is of course stand by me
and star trek the next generation where was wesley crusher
are well card
went very well thanks harry
uh... out you know i know you're a uh... at salt liberal uh... and i know you
carry a lot about so-called about them to say but i gotta tell you
we
my group of friends that i would get together in watch star trek the next
generation
are you prolly it was all the time
about one of our paper things was when you were on the bridge and uh... and
stand for congress to get the ball up a branch
apec allxclub echoing through love that
uh... how uh...
of all the things that you're gonna have a good start racked is that the thing
that that people milieu for most
well started as a global phenomenon that really goes across a number of
generations i have net
uh... number
have people like turned forty this year and a lot of people don't grew up
watching it with their parents and it wasn't important part
of their childhoods i've met a lot of engineers and scientists who chose their
field because they were star trek fans
uh... but and
uh... also been really lucky to be part of some things that
really fundamentally have kind of change not the way entertainment works life we
should use web series the guild
uh... and my attachment to the gilded might actually see the media and my
believe in the democratizing egalitarian nature of the internet is one of the
things
that has led me to to be such a a passionate opponents
of what i think its some room in this kind of legislation after its writing
you know and and the builders
huge and so uh... you know and love the you're part of that as well
so it's not about sober that uh... because unite the you hear people like
bill maher say hey you know what they are
parts is a bad day and so i haven't there also but
danny goldberg delmar preface that by saying i have no idea what this is that
i have really pay attention to it but that's not gonna stop me from having an
incredibly misinformed opinion is
by generally like bill more but i thought that was so profoundly
irresponsible and quite frankly student
yet you know to me the devil's in the details rightness danny goldberg's of
thoughtful liberal he's a guy who's involve the music industry for a long
time even ran erm erica briefly here or that they op ed
in the nation and that was later put on c_b_s_ news as well
and will they keep saying well you know i understand it's it's uh... back to
take
this material and to watch it it's at a rat
i know you had to deal with that as well but are
aren't they missing the point that there is in the problem problems with actually
in the bill
i think that danny goldberg needed the false choice for of people who read his
article and the choices either
you're either in support of intellectual property rights for arson creators
or or
you are not the solution to stolen data
and uh... that was really offensive to me
i do make my living from intellectual property and i spend a lot of time it
and i put a lot of work into
creating
something that i hope someone feels is worth spending their time on it and it
is worth spending some money on
and uh... the
the idea that i have to automatically justin grace intellectual property theft
because i thought so wasn't unbelievably badly written piece of legislation uh...
i think entirely misses the point i really take issue with the idea of
giving
sixteen media companies uh... basically you are the primary of sources of
distribution for popular entertainment
uh... a complete avoid big red button
to control the internet
i think that's just braun
yet you know it's there
you're right it drives me crazy when they you talking about you know aideed
uh... piracy is a good thing but i don't go
also quintanilla have problem in the buyer's regret is that you do it
any in soap but uh... that you were so broad
that if he had any links to any web site that had any pirated material they could
take on your wall website
which i think one of the biggest problem is one of the biggest mistakes lists of
with exactly that
uh... it was putting the onus of defense on to of people who hosts websites
people who create content for websites
uh... it would have made it impossible for a website life ready to give a nexus
because the enforcement of of responsibilities were so great
and as the what we have a really hurt our developed quite a bit is that
we already have the d_n_c_ a n that's incredibly flawed piece of legislation
but at least as safe harbor provisions in its and we see that even with its
safe harbor provisions and even with fifteen very poorly written instill
abuse
and the up about the possibility for abuse
by uh... people with a particular political or social agenda under silva
or the possibility of abuse by studio that wants to crush a competitor
undersell of uh... was was simply too great
and well what do you feel about megaupload on what's happened to them of
course there owner has been arrested in the shutdown the website
uh... given at a trial yet but uh... websites basically been shut down
the indictment is pretty d_n_a_
i'd be if you read the indictment uh... it looks it looks pretty bad uh...
just like v silva and get the debate i don't believe that it is completely of
black and white binary you with us are against us issue there are a lot of
people who used megaupload for completely legitimate completely lawful
purposes
and two
take the entire services down and take all of that content away from the people
who lived in a million really put it there uh... i think it's sort of like
building about burning a house to the ground up because there was the uh...
that's the stolen dvd or something like that
uh... kids it seems like the people that ran it uh... work sort of dirt bags
uh... but it also illustrates to me that we don't necessarily need a this
legislation that chris died and uh... and uh... the mt chewing or into a we're
trying to rush through congress with absolutely no debate
because
the american government was able to reach across the world shut down the
website
arrest and detain the people who uh... who were running it
seems to me like their efforts to shut down and they perceive as intellectual
property theft
uh... is sort of proceeding without a whole lot of difficulty for them
right i guess a lot of other issues that i have a better and i share like
and let me put it this way i don't have an opinion on the people who ran
megaupload i don't have an opinion on megaupload you died would need
and greater clarity on an expertise on that in no
and you probably have to just sit on the jury to find out of what they did was
wrong or not right uh... but i'm i'm bothered that they shut down the website
preemptively before we've got it and you division of guilt and then second of all
the prosecutors
five of them including the lead prosecutor
are guys who used to work
uh... in
the software edit industry or no in trade group actually trying to fight
anti piracy
so they come over from the business interests and then will they go
and into the department of justice and do their exactly in the business
interests wanted in getting rid of megaupload now even a megaupload winds
up being guilty i'm worried about the precedent that's that's
that hey you know what if you wanna send you guys over the department of justice
a shot back a better web sites that you don't like
you could do it by the time the trials over it is that's listed
even existed because other innocent
i think it seeks to a larger fundamental problem that i have with our political
system and and the american government in particular at this point in history
we have people from industry who have financial interests that are really
it there okay to have when your dvd st
continued to government and using the power into
reach resources of government
to basically continue what they were doing when they were in private industry
and by personally believe that government should serve the public
interest and provided check against the prided interest
and seeing people do this sort of thing i agree with you sense a terrible
terrible precedents
really glad that this issue of of silva and killed by uh... and i think it's
going to happen and in the very near future with actor
ronald up an incredible amount of people uh... who were big politically no-one
engage until this started and has shown people there
we really you know we have a ninety nine percent
really have to throw ourselves on the levers of power and say we cannot this
enough it
you this this cozy relationship between government and business has so corrupted
if the co
more of what it means to be an american
that uh... that it we have to stl rise up and stop that there's more of us than
their arms and and about seeing the internet which we all have taken for
granted uh... is threatened uh... i hope will keep people anti-g_a_t_t_ people
engage
are well weakness care pleasure did see a smart progressive actor
uh... try to bring uh...
you know a little bit more education to the public on important issues like this
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