AND FORMER STATE DEPARTMENT ELLIS JORDAN, AND REPORTER FOR
THE "WASHINGTON POST" IS WITH
US.
US. WE’LL GET TO THAT REPORT IN JUST
A MOMENT.
A MOMENT. FIRST, ME WANT WALL.
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( PRESIDENT TRUMP TWEETED HIS
APPROVAL OF THE DEAL, BUT WHILE
IT’S SHORT OF THE $5.7 BILLION
HE’S ASKED FOR HE TRIED TO FRAME
IT AS A WIN.
HE TWEETED, JUST GIVEN THE
CONCEPTS OF THE BORDER DEAL BY
HARD WORKING RICHARD SHELBY AND
ALL ASPECTS THIS HOOKED TO OTHER
SOURCES.
SOURCES. WE WILL BE GETTING ALMOST $23
BILLION FOR BORDER SECURITY.
REGARDLESS OF WALL MONEY, IT’S
BEING BUILT AS WE SPEAK.
PLUS, I WANT TO THANK ALL
REPUBLICANS FOR THE WORK YOU
HAVE DONE WITH DEALING WITH THE
RADICAL LEFT ON BORDER SECURITY.
NOT AN EASY TASK, BUT THE WALL
IS BEING BUILT AND WILL BE A
GREAT ACHIEVEMENT AND
CONTRIBUTOR TOWARD LIFE AND
SAFETY WITHIN OUR COUNTRY.
A WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL TOLD NBC
NEWS EARLIER TUESDAY, EVEN IF
TRUMP SIGNS OFF ON THE AGREEMENT
TO KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OPEN,
OTHER OPTIONS WERE ON THE TABLE
TO BUILD A MORE SUBSTANTIAL
BARRIER.
BARRIER. YESTERDAY, SENATE MAJORITY
LEADER, MITCH McCONNELL AND
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE LEADER
LINDSEY GRAHAM, THEY WILL FUND
THE GAP FOR BUILDING THE WALL
TRUMP LONG SAID MEXICO WOULD PAY
FOR AND WOULD DO THAT BY USING
HIS PRESIDENTIAL POWERS.
>> I HOPE HE SIGNS THE BILL,
AND, SECOND, I THINK HE OUGHT TO
FEEL FREE TO USE WHATEVER TOOLS
HE CAN LEGALLY USE TO ENHANCE
HIS EFFORT TO SECURE THE BORDER.
>> AS TO THE MONEY FOR THE
BARRIER, IF HE CAN USE STEEL
BARRIERS LIKE HE’S BEEN TALKING
ABOUT, I WOULD SAY THAT’S
OVERALL A PRETTY GOOD DEAL AND
MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
1.375 AND 5.7 THROUGH EXECUTIVE
ACTION.
ACTION. >> AS WE KNOW, WILLIE GEIST, IF
YOU READ YOUR CONSTITUTION, ALL
FUNDING BEGINS WITH THE
LEGISLATIVE BRANCH AND EXECUTIVE
BRANCH WHEN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH
CAN’T GET THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH
TO AGREE.
TO AGREE. WHAT LINDSEY GRAHAM JUST SAID,
UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
UNCONSTITUTIONAL. WHAT MITCH McCONNELL IS
SUGGESTING, UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
SUGGESTING, UNCONSTITUTIONAL. IT DOESN’T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
IF DONALD TRUMP COULD HAVE
GOTTEN $23 BILLION FOR HIS WALL,
WHY DID HE SHUT DOWN THE
GOVERNMENT AS LONG AS HE SHUT
DOWN THE GOVERNMENT AND WATCH
HIS APPROVAL RATINGS SINKS, 6,
7, 8, 9 POINTS.
HE CAN’T GET THE $23 BILLION BUT
IF HE TRIES TO, THAT WILL BE
OVERTURNED BY THE SUPREME COURT.
WE SHOULD BE HAPPY THE
GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO STAY OPEN
AND THEY’RE LOOKING FOR A FIG
LEAF.
LEAF. I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR THE
PERSON WHO GAVE ME THE ADVICE TO
NOT TAKE THE $20 BILLION FROM
CONGRESS LAST YEAR, WHEN THEY
WERE WILLING TO GIVE THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
$20 BILLION WHEN HE WAS HOLDING
HIS STRONGEST HAND AND THEY
SAID, NO, DON’T TAKE THAT MONEY.
BECAUSE OF THAT PERSON IN THE
WHITE HOUSE, WHOEVER IT IS, HE’S
GONE FROM GETTING 21, 22, $23
BILLION FOR BORDER SECURITY TO
$1.3 BILLION FOR BORDER
SECURITY.
SECURITY. THE ART OF THE STEAL FROM
DEMOCRATS.
DEMOCRATS. THEY HAVE SNATCHED VICTORY FROM
THE JAWS OF DEFEAT.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. THE ART OF THE DEAL HAVING ANN
COULTER TELL YOU NOT TO TAKE THE
DEAL AND THEN TAKE LESS MONEY
FOR THE WALL, FORGET THE $5.7
BILLION.
BILLION. NOW, ANN COULTER IS CRITICIZING
THE PRESIDENT AGAIN.
TRUMP TALKS A GOOD GAME ON THE
BORDER WALL BUT IT IS
INCREASINGLY CLEAR HE’S AFRAID
TO FIGHT FOR IT.
CALL THIS HIS "YELLOW NEW DEAL."
WE’LL SEE IF THE PRESIDENT
RESPONDS THIS TIME TO
CONSERVATIVE CRITICISM THE WAY
HE DID IN DECEMBER.
>> DONALD TRUMP IS SO SENSITIVE
TO ANY CRITICISM FROM HIS BRAIN
TRUST OF CABLE NEWS ADVISORS, IT
WOULDN’T BE THINKABLE FOR DONALD
TRUMP TO SAY, I DON’T KNOW, THIS
ISN’T GOOD ENOUGH AND UP-END AT
THE LAST MINUTE, JUST BECAUSE HE
IS SOLELY DRIVEN BY WHAT PEOPLE
ARE SAYING ABOUT HIM IN ANY
GIVEN MOMENT.
GIVEN MOMENT. >> HE SAID TWO NIGHTS AGO IT WAS
A GARBAGE COMPROMISE, HIS
MONEYLINE.
MONEYLINE. >> GARBAGE COMPROMISE.
AND MIKE BARNICLE, CHANCES ARE
THE PRESIDENT CAN GET AWAY WITH
THIS.
THIS. WE SAW THE OTHER NIGHT ALL THOSE
PEOPLE IN EL PASO, THE PEOPLE
APPLAUDING AND JUMPING TO THEIR
FEET, WE’RE ALREADY BUILDING THE
WALL.
WALL. GO CHECK IT OUT.
WE’RE LIVING IN AN ALTERNATE
REALITY ANYWAY.
REALITY ANYWAY. WE HAD THE PRESIDENT LYING TO
HIS SUPPORTERS SAYING HE IS
BUILDING THE WALL WHEN NO
BUILDING HAS BEGUN.
HE’LL TAKE THIS AND KEEP LYING,
THEY WILL KEEP SUPPORTING HIM.
WHAT WILL IT MATTER?
>> THE SAD AND DANGEROUS THING I
TRULY BELIEVE DONALD TRUMP
THINKS HE’S BUILDING A WALL,
WHEN IN FACT HE’S NOT.
THE OTHER SAD ASPECT AS YOU
POINTED OUT, YOU CAN’T HELP
THINKING TO YOURSELF AS
PRESIDENT TRUMP SITS AROUND
THINKING WHERE HE CAN GET THIS
EXTRA MONEY, CAN HE GET THIS
EXTRA MONEY, SURROUNDED BY HIS
ADVISORS, YOU HAVE FLASHBACKS IN
YOUR MIND, THINK OF OTHER PAST
PRESIDENTS SITTING AROUND THE
TABLE WITH THEIR ADVISORS, JFK,
DURING THE CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS,
HARRY TRUMAN, GEORGE BUSH, STUFF
LIKE THAT.
LIKE THAT. HERE WE HAVE STEVEN MILLER AND
ASSORTED OTHER PEOPLE, JARED
KUSHNER, SITTING AROUND,
ADVISING THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES, AND THEY ARE
WRONG AT EVERY SINGLE TURN.
>> THE LEAST EXPERIENCED GROUP
OF WHITE HOUSE HANDS IN THE
HISTORY OF THE WHITE HOUSE, NO
DOUBT ABOUT IT.
YOU SEE IT EVERYDAY WITH THE BAD
DECISIONS BEING MADE.
ELYSE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR
YOU.
YOU. YOU COME FROM MY PART OF THE
COUNTRY, MY IDEOLOGY, YOU’RE
SERVANT/LIBERTARIAN.
SERVANT/LIBERTARIAN. THOSE PEOPLE IN THE KROWTS --
YOU’RE CONSERVATIVE/LIBERTARIAN.
YOU’RE CONSERVATIVE/LIBERTARIAN. THOSE PEOPLE IN THE CROWDS, WHEN
THEY HEAR DONALD TRUMP SAYING
HE’S BUILDING A LAW, GO TO THE
RIO GRAND AND CHECK IT OUT.
DO THEY KNOW HE’S LYING TO THEM.
YOU KNOW THEY’RE NOT THAT
STUPID.
STUPID. THEY HAVE TO KNOW NO WALL IS
BEING BUILT WHEN HE KEEPS
TELLING THEM HE’S BUILDING THE
WALL.
WALL. BY THE TIME, IF HE’S BUILDING
THE WALL, WHY ARE THEY HOLDING
SIGNS THAT SAY "BUILD THAT
WALL"?
WALL"? DO THEY KNOW HE’S A LIAR BUT
THEY DON’T CARE, IT’S JUST A
GREAT SHOW.
GREAT SHOW. HE’S NOT YOU KNOW THE LEFTY
DEMOCRATS OR LEFTY MEMBERS OF
THE PRESS.
THE PRESS. >> JOE, I THINK YOU NAIL IT WHEN
YOU SAY, IT’S A GREAT SHOW.
THAT’S WHAT MOST TRUMP
SUPPORTERS ARE SHOWING UP TO
WATCH THE SHOW.
THEY’RE THERE TAKING IT IN AND
LISTENING.
LISTENING. CERTAINLY, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE
THERE WHO BELIEVE WHAT DONALD
TRUMP IS SAYING.
OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, DOING
RESEARCH WITH ASHCROFT IN
AMERICA PROJECT AND FOCUS GROUPS
AND SO MANY DIFFERENT SEGMENTS
OF THE ELECTORATE, IT IS
SURPRISING TO ME YOU HEAR FROM
DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTERS, THEY
KNOW HE’S NOT GOING TO BUILD THE
WALL AND LIKE HE’S TRYING AND
FIGHTING.
FIGHTING. THEY HAVE NO EXPECTATION THE
WALL WILL HAPPEN OR THAT IT’S
NECESSARY BUT WANTED TO SEE A
STRONGER STANCE.
STRONGER STANCE. >> IT’S ALSO THE BRANDING
EXERCISE.
EXERCISE. REMEMBER THE STEAKS BUTCHERED IN
PALM BEACH OR THE WATER, OR
ANYTHING HE SAYS IS THE BEST
PRODUCTS, IT’S A LIE, JUST LIKE
THE STEAKS WEREN’T TRUMP STEAKS
AND THE WORRY IS THIS IS LEADING
AMERICANS DOWN A PATH.
GO AHEAD.
GO AHEAD. >> AGAIN, 38, 39% OF AMERICANS
STILL SUPPORT HIM WHEN THEY KNOW
HE IS LYING.
>> THEY THINK THE STEAKS ARE
REAL.
REAL. >> EDDIE, IS IT SYMBOLIC OF
SOMETHING MUCH BIGGER?
IS THAT WALL AND THE FACT HE’S
FIGHTING FOR A WALL AND SAYING
HE IS BUILDING A WALL AND THEY
KNOW HE IS LYING, IS THAT HIM
JUST SAYING IN A VEILED WAY WHAT
HE SAID OUTRIGHT ON TWITTER,
WHICH IS WE GOT TO KEEP THOSE
PEOPLE FROM LATIN AMERICA, WE
HAVE TO KEEP THOSE BROWN PEOPLE
OUT OF AMERICA.
>> HATRED.
>> HATRED. >> WHEN I SAY BUILD THAT WALL,
I’M NOT BUILDING A WALL, BUT YOU
KNOW WHAT I RAL MEAN.
>> RIGHT, JOE, I THINK YOU’RE
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT IN THIS REGARD.
IT’S A MONUMENT TO HATRED AND
FEAR AND CHANGING DEMOGRAPHICS
OF THE COUNTRY.
IT HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH THE
QUESTION OF SAFETY AND LITTLE TO
DO WITH THE QUESTION OF AMERICAN
JOBS.
JOBS. IT’S PREDICATED ON A LIE AS YOU
SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
IT’S BIZARRE AND SPENDING MONEY
ON SOMETHING NOT TRUE AND
DEMOCRATS ARE NEGOTIATING ABOUT
SOMETHING THAT’S NOT TRUE.
>> IT’S BIZARRE.
>> IT’S BIZARRE AT THIS MOMENT.
>> EDDIE, YOU SAY DEMOCRATS ARE
NEGOTIATING ON THIS.
THEY WILL SPEND THE $1.3 BILLION
FIXING UP PARTS OF THE FENCE ARE
THERE THAT NEED REPAIR.
YOU GOT TO SAY, DONALD TRUMP
STARTS AT $20 BILLION, THEY’RE
GOING TO GIVE HIM $20 BILLION
LAST YEAR AND THEN WANTS 5.7.
>> NANCY PELOSI SAYS, I’LL GIVE
YOU 1.6, AND THE DEAL, NANCY IS
GIVING HIM 1.3.
NEED PRETTY GOOD NEGOTIATING BY
THE DEMOCRATS.
THE DEMOCRATS. >> IT IS.
>> IT IS. IT’S THE EQUIVALENT OF A CHILD
THROWING TEMPER TANTRUM, THEY’RE
IN TOYS ’R US AND THEY WANT THE
BIG TOY AND WE GIVE THEM THE
LITTLE CAR.
LITTLE CAR. WE’RE STILL REWARDING A TEMPER
TANTRUM.
TANTRUM. >> NO.
>> NO. WE HAVE A CHILD THROWING A
TEMPER TANTRUM AND THE PARENT
SAYS, YOU CAN DO THAT IF YOU
WANT TO BUT I’M GOING TO THE
CAR, YOU WILL HAVE A LONG WALK
HOME IF YOU DON’T FOLLOW ME,
SONNY BOY.
SONNY BOY. THAT’S WHAT NANCY PELOSI DID TO
TRUMP.
TRUMP. THERE IS $1.3 BILLION IN REPAIRS
THEY CAN MAKE TO THE STRUCTURE
ON THE BORDER.
HE GOT HAMMERED BY DEMOCRATIC
NEGOTIATIONS.
NEGOTIATIONS. >> HE’S TALKING ABOUT
REPROGRAMMING AUTHORITY,
REPROGRAMMING AUTHORITY, REPROGRAMMING MONEY FROM CERTAIN
DEPARTMENTS AND MOVING IT TO
OTHERS.
OTHERS. HE SAID, I WILL MOVE THINGS
AROUND AND FAKING BUDGET MONEY
FROM QUOTE FAR LESS IMPORTANT
AREAS TO MAKE UP THE SHORTFALL
OF THE WALL FUNDING.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?