How are you doing?
What's the matter, that you're making a cringey face?
I messed up my back.
That's why I was old lady dancing just now.
Nothing worse than back pain.
I know, yeah.
What'd you do?
I was moving a piece of exercise equipment.
That's old people stuff.
Yeah.
I have an exercise bike.
It's not working, so I was going to get rid of it.
So I moved it and tore my back up.
Oh no.
[INAUDIBLE] I should have just got my butt on the bike, huh?
Yeah, I was going to say--
Work out a little bit--
Then move it after that.
Then move it.
Yeah.
You're very busy lately, aren't you?
I am.
I'm really busy.
Very-- what are you doing?
Well, I'm here.
And I notice every time I come here, you give me an extra job.
But you got coffee out of it.
I'm a twofer.
Yeah.
Yeah, busy, man-- just been traveling and everything,
and just coming off the holidays, getting back into it.
We were in Mexico with the family for the holidays.
That was fun.
Do you speak Spanish?
No, no, no, I don't.
Well, because Alex speaks French, so I assumed--
Yeah, and she speaks Spanish too.
Oh, she does?
Yeah, show-off-- but the thing that bugs me,
because whenever we travel, we go to another country,
we get in the car and Alex always asks the driver
to play the local music.
We get it, the guy has some nice popular music going on,
and she's like, can you put on the local music please?
I want to hear local music.
Guy puts on a local music--
within three minutes, she's looking at me like--
and wants me to ask the guy to change the channel.
Right.
So I'm like [INAUDIBLE] it never fails.
So now, I gotta make up stuff, like, excuse me, sir,
I have to make a phone call.
Can you turn the music down?
Just turn it off.
Turn it off.
But this time, she did it again.
We're in Mexico-- business as usual.
Can you play the local music?
Guy puts on the music, she looks at me, and I'm like, uh-uh.
You're going to suffer through this.
I was like, hey, man, turn it up.
Turn it up.
We could be listening to Lizzo right now.
Uh-huh.
But no, you want to hear local music.
There you go.
I can take it.
As long as I know you're suffering more, I'm good.
It's a lovely relationship--
and now, are the twins in the car when this is happening?
No.
No, the twins are not in the--
They don't travel with you?
Oh yeah, they were with us.
They were in the car.
Yeah, they were with us, but they were on the tablets.
You forgot that they were with you?
How are they?
They're quiet.
They're on their tablets.
They're quiet.
Oh, well, that's good.
Yeah.
They're 10.
Yeah, they're 10 years old now.
What are they doing now?
How are they?
They're doing great.
They're doing great-- school and everything.
But they've gotten to this place now--
because while we were on vacation, they came to me,
and Olivia was like, mommy-boo--
they call me mommy-boo because they're racist.
Thought they'd grow out of it by now, but nope--
still mommy-boo.
That's my name.
What do they call Alex?
Mama.
OK.
It's funny.
My mother and father-- they're at my house right now watching
the kids, and I called the house, and no one answered.
And I called again-- no one answered,
so I finally called my mom on her cell phone, and I was like,
everything OK?
You guys aren't picking up.
She said, I didn't know what that was.
The phone came up and it said "mombo".
And I was like, who the hell is mombo?
I was like, oh boy.
That's somebody from Africa calling here.
They try to trick you.
They always calling, talking about a princess or something.
I never answer those calls.
I couldn't tell her it was me.
It was embarrassing.
But anyway, so the kids go, mom-boo, our friends,
they tell us that you talk about us on your shows
because their parents let them watch your show.
Those are bad parents.
Yeah, yeah.
And she said, but they-- so they let their kids watch it
and then they come and tell us and joke on
us about the stories you tell, so we would like for you
not to talk about us anymore.
And I was like, you know what, I don't want to hurt y'all.
And if it bothers you, I will not talk about you anymore,
but this will probably be our last vacation.
[APPLAUSE]
We're going to be doing some staycations.
So now you can talk about them again.
They want to go places.
All right, we have to take a break-- more with Wanda
after this.
That is called Visible, Out on Television.
And it's something that you're the executive producer of.
One of them--
One of them-- and tell everybody--
a lot of people are in this.
Yes-- amazing that these people shared their stories with us--
and especially you.
And it's documenting the history of LGBTQ community
on television.
And these stories are amazing.
And what I love about it-- it shows not just our history,
but it just shows that--
the how important being seen on television--
how important it is, and how it does actually affect change.
It moves the needle.
Yeah.
And to me, I just hope that people
who get to make decisions--
that they see this and realize that, oh, it's important for us
to let marginalized people tell their stories.
And the story doesn't have to be about, I'm gay.
There's more to us than that.
Right.
It's amazing.
But like I said, there's a bunch of people [INAUDIBLE]..
Oh my God, yeah.
You're in it, myself--
Neil Patrick Harris--
It's enough to make a whole full special.
Billie Jean King.
It's not just the two of us.
Yeah, right.
It's just the two of us in it.
But it's great.
When you look back on when you were watching TV,
who was the first gay person that you saw?
I guess it had to be Liberace, because I never watched it
Ed Sullivan, Liberace, and all.
And my grandmother and my parents,
they were watching-- they were like, that man
can play that piano.
They were cool with it.
But you had to know that Liberace was gay.
Good lord--
But he never said it.
You don't have to say.
He's got beads and feathers.
Why does he have to say, I'm gay?
Look at that.
That says, hey, I'm gay.
It says it.
There are so many people who still don't believe he's gay
because he never said it.
Do you know that?
No.
Yeah.
Those people are dumb.
You see him-- you're like, oh, that guy
appreciates another man.
That Liberace, he appreciates a gentleman caller.
He does.
Yeah.
It's a very interesting documentary,
because like you said, it kind of exposes and shows
how many people throughout the time
that we were watching TV that really influenced
us and impacted us.
And thanks for doing it.
Well, thank you for doing it.
[INAUDIBLE] Visible, Out on Television premieres February
14th on Apple TV+.
We'll be right back--
Wanda Sykes.