Islam is the only religion that has something called a 'chain of transmission'.
This is what we were discussing last time.
The chain of transmission is
nothing short of a miracle yeah, it's something which is a field in itself,
if I was to delve into you would be left in awe and this is something that only Islam has to offer.
Christianity or let's just say even Judaism
Let me correct you there.
When you say it's not written... it's not something that is carried on, for written not only a written
-just memorized yeah? -yeah there is corrupt... because it shows you that
The Lord said he would write it in everyone's heart.
It's a part...did I tell you...there is erm
Deuteronomy 30:10, which talks about that, the Lord will write in everyone of his ??? hearts
How many would you say have memorized it? Because honestly, I haven't
come across a single one in all of my studies, that claim to have memorized the bible from cover to cover?
-Because it's a lot... it's a lot of information. -I understand but you said according to the bible
(yeah) God's written it in everybody's hearts (yeah) so you should have loads then isn't it?
There should be loads yeah and obviously based on the... how the versions is taken
-because there is there's people today -very good because, there's loads of versions
-Over 60. -the version how is it... like there's an order of things right?
-yeah -so there is okay there could be
first five, five writing that there's some people that in
Zimbabwe that have preserved even in their cultural, you know, behaviour that
-they're call The Bante people -so you're saying preserving uh in terms of actions not words yeah?
Action derived to a expression. The word derived to an expression. A word derives to an expression.
But what we're saying is the Qur'an itself from the get- go, it was memorized. The hadith or the sayings of the
Prophet, they were also memorized as well
...the highest ranks with the Prophet Muhammad (saw) and the Sahabah. Ameen.
Yeh boi
So uh yeah, the Qur'an was memorized from the get-go/from the beginning, from the Prophet
and I think the point that I was trying to say was, that the disciples hadn't memorized it,
that much we can agree on isn't it? And then the first generation after they hadn't memorized it,
so it's not a tradition amongst Christians to memorize the book and neither amongst the Jews
-Certain, certain Christians, because like I say... -No there's not a single disciple brother
The Prophet's close companion was Abu Bakr (r.a), then after him was Umar (r.a)
yeah, they have memorized the Qur'an. They had memorized sayings of the Prophet.
-That's saying- you know- still, still need (you know) proof. -I will give you proof Lancelot
Now me standing here, I'm going to give you an example of a chain of transmission
Right here, right now. I'm going to link it directly to the Prophet.
yeah that's a big claim I'm making. So the Prophet (peace be upon him) there's a saying that's been
attributed to him that- which is ironic because the Prophet said- if somebody wrongly attributes
something to me then he has in effect reserved a place in a hellfire for themselves yeah so,
this is a saying. Now I have read this in a book by Muhammad ash Shaybani, he got it from his teacher
Imam Abu Hanifa, so Imam Abu Hanifa he got it from
Al-Atiyya al- Awfi
Al-Atiyya al- Awfi got it from Abu Said Al Khudri.
Abu Said Al Khudri (r.a) got it from Muhammad (peace be upon him)
What I've now done is I've given you- standing here- an entire chain. I can tell you every single
person in this chain (which I've done so) we know their names, we know their tribes so we we know
hadith from sanad, matan, tareekh yeah so the chain, from the text itself and from the date of the narration
itself as well yeah, so we can critique, that nobody can come and attribute something to the Prophet
that was said to him without an academic saying, "this is impossible" "it's absolutely impossible" yeah
and in the chain of narration we know the name, we know how good their memory is, we know their tribe
we know their father's name, we know where they're travelled, we know who they sat with and we know
how long they sat with. Now can you provide me something similar to that in your tradition
well not... I would, I would, I would have to obviously go in more detail but
not in that that terminology. There is timeline where I could provide you on a
-different platform where we sit down and actually break it down -yeah of course
But Lancelot you see there's
four cameras here, I can make a bold face claim here, yeah knowing that this is going to go online
and I can be refuted. I can make this claim that Christianity does not have anything that matches
that. I can say that right now. It doesn't have anything that even comes close to that.
-Let's just say even Judaism -Let me correct you on that
Deuteronomy 30:10 which talks about that, the Lord will write in everyone of his ??? hearts
I haven't come across a single one in all of my studies, that claim to have memorized the bible from covered cover
It's a lot of information. I understand, but you said according to the bible yeah god's written
it in everybody's heart, so you should have loads then isn't it? This is something that only Islam
-has to offer. Still needs, you know, proof. -I will give you proof
well not I would I would I would have to obviously go in more detail but I'm not in that term...