there's a German pop star who was on
trial for knowingly having unprotected
sex with two men while having HIV
socially I understand this controversy
involves her name is not job enough
Bennett benissa and she's from a girl
band called No Angels she's a beautiful
girl but um she had sex with two men she
knew she had HIV
she had unprotected sex one of the men
who is a talent agent he's 34 years old
now has full-blown AIDS because of the
unprotected sex the other guy was not
infected with the HIV virus at all all
right first of all if you're the talent
manager it in the beginning you think
man I scored right you this hot girl
who's a singer etcetera you go brag to
all your friends a high five okay and I
come to find out that she gave you aids
uh disaster on top of disaster many to
highs and lows of life and that guy's
got full-blown AIDS now yet not only did
she give him aids
she gave him AIDS without even using
protection like he she knew that she had
the HIV virus she could at least said no
no I want to keep it safe make sure you
put on a condom right she didn't have to
see her her defenses that she was scared
she didn't want people to know that she
had HIV but it doesn't matter you could
have easily said like I don't want to
have a protected sex so put a condom on
right you know I mean you didn't have to
disclose that information with anyone
right and I guess she thought if she
said that that would reveal that she had
something right which it doesn't reveal
anything if you're sensible yes the got
upon economy anyway right and so now the
flip side of this is that she's
enormously remorseful not and says like
oh my I can't believe this I'm the worst
you know and obviously with a little
this action going on I regret it I'm
sorry and I'm sorry that was my mistake
my bad I'm sorry right now so of course
at least the question of okay guilty or
not guilty
well 120 percent guilty
okay there no room or like I have
absolutely no problem I'll top you 125
percent guilty okay so we're in
agreement here there's no question
that's I mean your Messel that guy's
life you might have flat-out killed
right so now what did she get what's
what's her sentence here we got a little
suspended sentence yes okay so she was
facing ten years yeah uh and then as you
know during the court proceedings they
decided to sentence her to two years in
jail and then since she was so honest
and she was so remorseful they're like
okay no jail time community service so
two year suspended sentence which
basically means no sentence exactly
right and then 300 hours of community
service yet that's not okay not behind
okay so uh what would you like a Supreme
Court overruled okay that's interesting
question got how many years ago give her
you know I don't even know where to
start like that that's a hard question
to answer
by the way AIDS activists say this is
terrible it you know victimizes people
that have AIDS more stigmatizes 'im
etcetera that they should have convicted
or at all right I'm not buying that at
all here yet you know what I may be
there word there be less AIDS activist
I'll be out of a job if there's less
people with AIDS how about we don't
spread it and I'm being unfair they
attacked us I know they don't they're
trying to contain it etcetera right but
no I'm not buying their line of argument
the question is how harsh are you gonna
be I give her a minimum of a year in
jail but I think that's too low I'd go
two years if she was a remorseful I'm I
go ten years right that's interesting I
was going toward five years all right so
that's based on nothing like oh no no
whereas mine is based on something okay
all right so let's get there let's see
if this is Supreme Court involved here
at justice Kohler we're between two and
five years where are you first of all
when I'm faced with a controversial
decision my opinion is 51% forty-nine
and as 120 a year 125 percent apparently
this is not very controversial for
either one of you I don't know why it
got the alert button I think it's
controversial for audience members cuz
I'm sure that there are plenty of people
out there that disagree with what all
right so uh I agree that she is uh
guilty but I'm kind of on the low end of
the sentence look well you got to be
responsible for your own sexual behavior
the guy - and some people out there have
AIDS or other sexually transmitted
diseases
you know what justice Kohler makes a
pretty good point and so and I do look
this is a you know I'd like to do a
little research into the leak out into
the big ridiculous gyt Supreme Court
doesn't do research in reality this guy
talking about who made this guy justice
yeah I just spit it out what is it wow
Mike how many years well a lot of
community service but you know six
months to a year
no very low all right all right but he's
still tougher than the actual judge all
right and Chief Justice Godoy I'm around
what you were saying now I wouldn't go
as far as ten I think if she wasn't if
she is remorseful but it since she was
up I would do at least two to three
years I would say all right we have a
decision justice Kohler uh presented a
compelling case moved us down the scale
two years that's it okay so sorry
I you know I know you thought your
sentence was suspended but you have to
head back to jail but thank you as she
takes it seriously so all we do is the
Supreme Court uid Supreme Court ruled I
gotta go