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the brain power to figure it all out.
So anyways, apple cider vinegar,
big topic for weight loss,
cholesterol and blood sugar management.
Is it going to help with that?
And that's what we're going to find out.
Is it a viable product to use or not?
And guess what?
No giveaway today. So we're not going to go into that.
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Yep. You can go to our discord.
Let's go right to the topic.
I just messed that completely up anyways.
- Okay.
- Apple Cider vinegar. We're talking about it,
I always use the one with the mother I've been using
actually for joint pain, which we're not covering.
And we just did a video last night
covering the use of apple cider vinegar for cramps,
which had some really interesting
and positive information in that regard.
But we're going to talk about,
let's get it to right into weight loss.
- Yeah. So kind of interesting stuff.
So apple cider vinegar, like you say, whether it's,
you know, really pasteurized stuff,
that's the nice clear bottle.
Or if you get organic and unpasteurized,
which is an unfiltered, which has the mother,
which I would tell you is probably
gonna be the better one to use
just because there's other little bits of nutrients
and all good stuff in there with the mother.
So I think it's probably more complete.
- And that's kind of a yellowish orange color
and it's got the sediment.
- Yeah. It's gonna have some sediments
can be a little cloudy.
I mean, if you're going to mix it and put in, you know,
I mean, you know, apple cider vinegar,
it can be used in a variety of different ways.
I mean, you can put it on your food, or you can drink it.
And then what we're going to talk about with the dose
for all of these is you're going to put a tablespoon full
or 15 milliliters in 4 oz of water.
You're going to mix it.
You're going to drink it. So that's one way of doing it.
Or you can actually do there's a lot of other ways
you can do it where you can just put it like on a salad
or something to that effect.
But we'll just talk about it straight up dose
15 ml tablespoon spoon.
- If you put more than 4 oz of water.
Is it going to change anything?
- No, as long as you drink it all. I think that's fine.
So if you want it more dilute for those who have never tried
apple cider vinegar, it's got a very sour taste,
so it may not present as it's for everybody,
but for some people they like it. So, and
it just depends on your taste buds and what you like.
But if we're going to use this for weight loss specifically,
the dose range is either 15 ml up to 30 ml
and 4 oz of water, or even up to 8 oz
when you consume this. And no matter what we do
when we're talking about apple cider vinegar,
after you consume it,
I want you to make sure you rinse and gargle
and swish water around on your teeth because it can...
- With water
- With plain water
because it can damage a tooth enamel
if you don't protect it right away
- Because of the acid...
- Because it's an acidic product, you know, it's about,
you know, and on the pH scale, it's about two to three.
So it's, it's a moderate acid.
So it's something you want to be real careful.
- So I just want to clarify again,
and he said two different volumes,
either one tablespoon or two, not more than two.
- Not More than two, two is an absolute max.
And frankly, when you're looking at it
from a weight loss standpoint, over the 90 days,
the research that it found that actually has a little bit
of, you know, they had about 45-50 subjects,
which still very small,
but I think it had enough evidence that shows, you know,
if you did the 15 milliliters and 4 oz of water
over 90 days,
it caused a 2.7 pound weight loss versus the 30 milliliters
in the water over 90 days caused a 3.6 pound weight loss.
So you're talking about just a couple of pounds. Well,
what does that mean? Well, I think for a lot of people,
I mean, when you have true fat loss, I mean,
I think it's something that is going to be
beneficial to you.
- And I read something about this, the apple cider vinegar,
actually losing the stomach, weight,
that weight in the gut itself.
- Yeah. Well. They seem to say that it targets that
I've always been of the mindset that
you can lose weight everywhere.
So I don't know how true that is.
And I haven't found straight up scientific evidence
that says that,
but there's a lot of anecdotal evidence that suggests that.
So, I mean, it's not going to hurt you.
I mean, the nice thing about apple cider vinegar is that
it's relatively safe stuff.
If you're a diabetic specifically type one,
if you are on diuretics or on the special heart medication
called the digoxin, or Lanoxin,
you'd want to use care and caution with that,
but we're going to touch
into blood sugar lowering shortly too. But I mean,
it's something that I think if you want to give it a try,
I think it does have some application
with some modest weight loss.
- I do want to say one thing about it
after I get done eating them, you know,
and I've got that urge for something sweet that dessert
drink it then,
it takes that urge for that to the right away from me.
It's like, I don't even think about it.
- And that's the one thing they actually say.
The reason that they think that apple cider vinegar
may be a weight loss, actually you want to do at the time,
it was actually better before you eat
because it slows down gastric emptying.
So that means what your stomach empties.
And so if you feel more full, you're going to eat less.
And so it kind of delays that.
And the reason why it might help you with digestion
and other things is that that acidity
might help to drive down,
break up food a little bit better and allow
because of that delayed gastric emptying,
you got more gut transit time for that food to absorb.
So your body is getting more nutrients out of the things
that you're eating as well.
- So take it before you eat.
- Before you eat.
- What if I took a little before
and then afterwards to kill that sweet tooth.
- I mean if you wanna kill it, I mean, I think, you know,
your remedy is certainly gonna hurt you
'cause I I'll tell you that it doesn't taste great.
- It does the trick for me.
- I don't want to have.
- It does the trick form me,
I don't wanna have that ice cream.
That's not in my mind after a few...
- That's going to take away the craving for ice cream,
for sure. No two ways about it.
- All right. You want to go on to cholesterol?
- Yeah. Why don't we?
So, I mean, again,
we're going to treat this much in the same way,
why it lowers cholesterol? You know,
we don't really have a definitive answer.
- So we're talking about if we lower our cholesterol,
it's going to help our circulation.
- It might help with our circulation,
it might help with our heart functioning
and minimize the risk for heart attack and stroke.
So they've shown that then, you know, again,
smaller scale studies and more anecdotally,
because we don't have the wide bodies of evidence
that show it. But, and I think a lot of it is
because you can't really make a ton of profit off
of apple cider vinegar because it already exists.
But that's thing on big pharma.
But you know, if you're in a university setting
and you got the gumption for it, guys,
if you want to research on why precisely
it lowers cholesterol, it would be interesting to know,
but I can tell you personally,
my cholesterol has been high for years.
I got a familial deal on my side, you know, my lineage.
And so unfortunately, you know,
I've had higher cholesterol and I started taking it,
I used it for three months before my appointments.
And, prior to that,
prior to the research that I did on our last video
that we did on this,
I just wanted to see how it worked for myself.
And I actually lowered my cholesterol 20 points.
- And you were doing the same dosage.
- I did 15 ml, 4 oz of water every day,
like right before dinner.
- Sure.
- So, and for whatever reason,
my cholesterol for the first time in years
was in a healthy range.
So I mean, it was, as again,
you can't take that to the bank.
If you're a physician or a cardiologist out there,
you certainly may scoff at it a little bit,
but I would tell you that there's enough anecdotal evidence
that does suggest that it may be beneficial for you.
It's not going to hurt you. So again, same mornings,
you know, if you're got gastroparesis or if you're using...
- Gastro-paresis is?
- Is when your stomach doesn't want to push
food through there.
- Is there another name for it? A layman's names.
- Slow gastric emptying.
- People usually know they have that.
- Your doctor's going to tell you,
it's more common with type one diabetics specifically,
but you know,
it's something that we do want to be mindful of. So again,
always check with your doctor and your pharmacist,
making sure they're looking at your profile because if
you're on diuretics that could affect things too
with electrolyte balance and how your potassium levels are.
Cause that's important for you.
- 2 water pills
- 2 water pills.
Yeah. You wanna be careful with that.
But I do think that does have a positive effect
on cholesterol and can probably lead us into the weight
or the blood sugar lowering too. So.
- Let's segue right into that.
- So, with diabetes,
there's two types of type one and type two
type one is the one that everybody has to have insulin,
type one. This is probably not for you
because there's a lot of other, your insulin dependent.
And the way that this lowers blood sugar could be,
it could be dangerous for you because if you get too low
and you didn't make an insulin correction,
you could have some serious problems.
So this is something that, again,
type one I would take off the table. I mean,
it's one thing if it's like in your salad dressing already
because there are types of things that you use
kind of a vinegar based.
So it doesn't necessarily have to be apple cider vinegar.
But I think from that stand point,
it's just something to be aware of
using moderation use accordingly.
But if you're going to try and use it to help as an adjunct,
it's considered mostly safe.
And most of the studies that we find
what they've done is an excellent example.
And we've talked about this before,
if you do 15 ml and 4 oz of water
and you take it before a high carbohydrate meal.
And the example they used was a bagel and orange juice.
- Okay.
- It diminished the blood sugar that was readily
that went in the bloodstream tremendously.
And so that effect when you're a type two diabetic
is gonna have a big effect for you because you know,
blood sugar control is everything
from a diabetic standpoint.
And so realistically this is an adjunct
that I think would be used with exercise and diet
and obviously medication therapy
that your doctor has provided for you.
So talk with your doctor to see if it's appropriate,
but I think it's a reasonable thing to bring up
because there are clear studies, again,
not large bodies of studies, but you're talking, you know,
a couple of hundred people in multiple studies
that have clearly shown whether it's in the bagel
and the orange juice, this one,
they've also done another one with white bread specifically.
And they show a tremendous decrease, you know,
like 5% reduction in the amount of postprandial
or after eating blood sugar levels. So you want it,
it's got a benefit to it.
And they actually did a study to taking it at bedtime,
which we'll talk about one of the side effects is reflux
and heartburn, but taking it before bed, if you do that,
make sure you take it lots of water to make sure
it's into your gut and moving before you lay down.
So we don't cause heartburn,
but they showed that people lower their blood sugar when
they wake up in the morning by 4%
and 4% doesn't sound like a large number,
but if you're teetering on the edge and you're,
there's a big number they talk about with just an A1C,
you know, if you're, you're just on the border
and you want to get down to a lower level, I mean,
it's got its place and it shows it pretty eloquently that,
that it it's got its place. But you know,
there's a couple of downsides with apple cider vinegar.
We have to be careful with. So we want to protect our teeth.
So after you use this,
you want to make sure your rinse and gargle really well,
cause it can damage the enamel on your teeth.
Some people actually find that it can cause heartburn.
So we do want to be careful with that.
So staying operate after you take it for 30 minutes
would be ideal.
So when I say the before bed dosing for the people
that want to consider that stay upright for 30 minutes
and make sure you've consumed plenty of water on top of it
to get it, to absorb into your system as quickly
as possible or not reflux back up,
cause heartburn can be damaging and problematic.
So we have to be, we have use a modicum of care
when we're going to use this. And again,
you do want to protect yourself
and you want to talk to your doctor
and talk to your pharmacy
to make sure it's appropriate for you.
- That it?
- That's pretty much it.
- I did want to mention a couple of things
just from this is anecdotal,
but people that comment on our other apple cider vinegar,
there was a number of acts.
You said it got rid of their heartburn,
which I don't know how that works.
- And that's actually, I looked at that a little bit too,
and it seems like it's almost more homeopathic
at that point. You're taking acid to treat acid.
And so there are burgeoning
there's large amounts of anecdotal evidence,
not a lot of large scale studies that do suggest
that it may be beneficial. So in certain populations,
I think it's something that you can consider,
but consider with caution, just like anything else.
I mean, if it helps you, we've solved a problem.
And I think that that's wonderful, but again,
it's not for everybody.
Some people aren't going to like the taste, but I mean,
at some point I think it does have some possible, you know,
benefits that I think are really worth exploring.
- For me personally joint pain in my hands.
- You said that for years,
- Yeah. 3 or 4 years ago,
I couldn't even close my fist
and it came on roofs really suddenly.
I was really concerned and I'd wake up in the morning
and I could never make a full fist,
which was really weird because I'm an active person.
I was concerned about how I was going to function, you know?
And so I started taking this from a friend of mine
who it's a long story, but anyways,
within two weeks I noticed things getting better.
And so I took it for about a month or two,
maybe close to two months and I've got about 80% better
and I just quit taking it
because it doesn't taste that well.
And I felt pretty functional. But recently,
because we talked about this again,
I started taking it again because this finger right here is
particularly sored from an accident. I believe anyways,
it seems to be improving it again, you know?
So I think it's got some pretty good, mandatory benefits.
Yeah. It's working for me personally.
I'm I can't vouch it or, you know,
I'm not going to give it a blessing for everyone, but...
- But I mean, again, just, yeah,
don't be afraid to speak up to your doctor
and speak up to your pharmacist. Let's make sure it's safe,
but I think it's got an application...
- If You're a healthy person,
you're not taking any medications
and you just take the doses that we're talking about.
- I think it's reasonable. I think it's reasonable to try.
And if you want to give it a try,
I think we'll see some positive results and you know,
we'd like to see your comments to see how it does
for you too. It's always interesting to get
that kind of feedback. Yeah.
- Yeah. A little feedback, little input.
All right, Chris.
Well, once again,
we've tackled another world problem and we're going to go on
to another one and just right after this,
we're going to talk about...
- Neuropathy.
- Neuropathy. All right.
Very good. Have a good day and be careful.
- Thanks guys.