>> So, White House councilor Kellyanne Conway, she threatened to reporter on a phone call.
And it seems she thought the call was off the record, I'll explain, but listen to this.
>> So you're the quote breaking news reporters, what it says here and I'm just trying to understand
what the breaking news was there.
>> I'd be happy to have your thought- >> So far I don't see breaking news and so
far I don't see reporter, so I'm just trying to understand either one.
Let alone all three together.
>> I would be happy to have you talk to my editor.
>> Yeah, so exactly.
You really don't.
Let me tell you something from a powerful woman, don't pull the crap where you're trying
to undercut a woman based on who she's married to.
He gets his powers through me if you haven't noticed, not the other way around.
And if these are the quote standards, unquote at the Washington Examiner, yes, I'd be happy
to talk to your editor.
But I've known your editor since before you were born.
So I can call your editor either way.
I'm just trying to give you a chance to explain why you think what you wrote qualifies as
breaking news or reporting.
>> Okay, so and to be fair, the reporter works for conservative newspaper Washington Examiner.
Her name is Caitlyn and this is, I hope the last time I have to talk about the Washington
Examiner seriously.
But Conway was mad about newspaper coverage about her husband, who puts himself in the
news a lot.
And there's more, listen.
>> Look, I- >> When I was young and starting in my career,
I was in the friendmaking business.
And I worked super hard.
You can put that in paragraph 2 also.
>> All right, like I said, I have got to go.
I'd be- >> Listen if you're going to cover my personal
life, if you're gonna cover my personal life, then we're welcome to do the same around here.
It has nothing to do with my job, which it doesn't, that's obvious.
Then we're either going to expect you to cover everybody's personal life or we're going to
start covering them over here.
>> So in case you didn't catch that last part, she says if you're going to cover my personal
life, then we're welcome to do the same around here.
>> Yeah, wow, that's a threat.
>> And of course because we are talking about Kellyanne Conway, she completely denies that
it was a threat.
>> It was a threat.
>> Right and which brings us to this.
>> I didn't threat whoa whoa whoa, I never threatened anyone don't use those words
>> You said you want to cover her personal life.
>> No no no I didn't threat, it's not a threat, I never threatened her.
Don't- >> So what does that mean, cover her personal
life?
>> Excuse me, don't use that word- >> Okay.
>> If it's not true, do not.
If I threatened somebody, you'll know it.
If I threaten someone, you'll know it, so don't do that.
>> So what does that mean, cover her personal life?
>> Don't do that.
I think it's very obvious.
>> It seems obvious as a threat, to dig into- >> It's not.
>> Dig in, who cares?
You don't even know her name.
You guys don't even, you, you, you just.
Well now you know her name.
Why you would, and I've never raised my eyes.
>> What does that mean cover her personal life?
>> So don't use the word threaten and don't use the word investigate and stop being so
silly.
>> Yeah, so look, I don't know why anybody bothers talking to Kellyann Conway.
>> Right.
>> Yeah, there's just no point.
You say, okay, what did you mean by you'll investigate her life?
If that's not a threat, what is it?
You're being silly.
I don't know what that means.
>> Well okay, look, again, if it's not a threat, what was it?
And she's like, it obviously wasn't a threat.
Okay, but then what was it?
She won't answer the question, all she ever does is alternative facts.
So look, I feel bad for folks who are not in a position of power.
You're that reporter, you don't know how your editor's going to react for sure.
It's a conservative outlet.
>> Right.
>> Kellyanne Conway, if you noticed said, I know you're a reporter since before you
were born.
That's another threat like I'll have you fired.
So she's in, the reporter's in an awfully tough position.
But I'm dying like because I want to be in that position because she has no power over
me and be like, you're gonna look into my life.
Okay, great, no problem.
I am glad that you opened up that box.
I'm gonna have two more reporters look into your personal life.
Because you're the one at the White House.
I have no power, you have power.
You're in charge of the United States government.
You're a senior advisor to the President.
Great, apparently you think personal lives should be investigated.
You know what the story was about?
It was the most reasonable story that the Washington Examiner has ever run.
Not because it's progressive or it's moderate.
No, they just said hey, Kellyanne Conway's up for chief of staff, that's true.
But it's an interesting situation to find herself in.
Because her husband is one of the president's biggest critics, which is true.
I literally don't know anyone in the country who questions Trump's mental health more than
me other than George Conway, Kellyanne Conway husband.
He wrote a 19 page editorial questioning the president's mental health, saying that he
is mentally unbalanced, disturbed, and should be removed from office.
If you don't think that's relevant to write about a potential Chief of Staff, you're nuts.
And Kellyanne Conway, of course, knows that it's relevant.
It's just a power play.
>> That's totally what it is, and it's like, listen, she's like, he gets his power from
me, girl I respect that.
Please use some of that to call AT&T and get his phone cut off because he is doing this
to you- >> Great point
>> Your husband keeps tweeting that your boss should be fired and prosecuted.
>> Right, that's the subtext of all of this.
She's pissed that she can't reign her husband in, and I know that that's bad to say, but
it's the truth, right?
And so in no such words she, Brooke you had said that call was wild.
I listened to it three times on the way here and at work.
Because it was like the best, it was like on Saturday Night Live.
But when she said, he gets his power through me, haven't you noticed?
Then when she said she doesn't make threats, she indirectly made threats throughout that
whole call.
>> The whole thing.
The call was a threat.
>> Yeah.
>> And- >> Of course.
>> The reason we're hearing it, I guess the begining of the call her assistant gets on
the line.
>> Right.
>> And says, hey this is off the record.
They have a conversation with the reporter, and Kellyanne Conway's aid.
And then Kellyanne Conway starts a new portion of the conversation and didn't say hey now
I want this portion with me and you to be off the record.
And because of the Washington Examiner's policy, that part of the conversation was on the record.
>> Yeah.
>> l mean you heard her typing ferociously after the call.
>> Yeah that's true.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah yeah yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> No look, Kellyanne Conway made a small mistake there not reiterating that it's off
the record.
l would've kept it off the record.
A little cheesy to say, well it was off the record with your assistant.
But now that you're on I'm not off the record.
But, I loved it!
>> When you cussed me out, it´s like, we're gotta follow the real rules here, sorry.
Like- >> Also, she could approached it a little
bit differently.
I mean, I would imagine how frustrating it is, to be a public figure that receives a
lot of attention that is less than favorable, and then have your husband who is talking
about the person who cut the check for you.
That has to suck, really, and I'm sure she absolutely feels that way about it, but I
think we should approach it a little bit differently.
That could have been a completely different conversation that could've had a resolution
that could've benefited both parties.
>> She could've approached it with him.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, at this point, that's who's doing this.
This is a story and this is, this is story.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean he's making it a story, over and over and over again.
You can't control a reporter.
>> Yeah, so I want to say two things about that.
One is, I have this ongoing theory that later when Trump is thrown out or his term ends
in however disgrace that it ends, that Kellyanne Conway's gonna say, hello you schmucks I was
telling George to write all those things.
I was the good guy.
And so, I'm the one who did all the leaks.
I was trying to do damage control from inside the White House.
Why did you think my husband, who I am not divorcing, who kept writing these things that,
19 pages about how mentally disturbed the guy I'm working for is.
>> Right.
>> Where do you think he got that information?
That's what she's gonna say later.
To cover her ass.
It's a whole CYA operation.
But right now, she's up for Chief of Staff, so she doesn't want those tweets to get in
the way.
She wants to have her cake and eat it too, so that's my theory.
Now, if she was a decent human being, the way that she could have had that conversation
is say, hey, listen, look, it's hard for a woman to be successful and then have her husband's
actions counted against her on top.
And that doesn't quite seem fair to me.
And that would've been an interesting conversation.
I don't think that's true in this case because it is a fascinating story that I think was
legitimate to cover.
But that would've been a conversation that would've involved some degree of empathy or
she could have made a decent point.
But that's not who Kellyanne Conway is.
>> Right.
>> She's a person who is a bully.
And of course her go-to move is intimidation, lies, and threats, so that what she did in
spades.