Sadhguru: One who is
stuck in the realm of right and wrong,
okay-not okay,
liking and disliking,
will never know the texture of love.
Rumi is a lover,
so he's talking a language
which doesn’t belong to right and wrong.
Rumi is talking about
a field
or a realm beyond right and wrong,
which if he works up his love,
when it becomes intense enough
once in a way he gets to that realm or that field that he's talking about.
But for a yogi that’s the realm he is in.
Once in a way he comes down to the realm of right and wrong
when he has to deal with the world;
otherwise that’s where he is.
And
love is just one of the ways to get there;
a sweet way,
a pleasant way
but the problem with pleasantness is
when something gets pleasant…
for lot of people the journey gets pleasant
they’ll never make it to the destination;
it's unfortunate.
It's wonderful if the journey is pleasant,
it's the best way.
The most intelligent way to get to the destination is
making the journey pleasant and beautiful
but unfortunately
most people will not make it to the destination
if their journey gets very pleasant;
they’ll park themselves right there in their pleasantness.
Once you start distinguishing
between pleasantness and unpleasantness
how can you escape right and wrong?
Once you start choosing what is pleasant,
what is unpleasant,
you cannot escape
what is right and what is wrong.
So, when one talks about
a realm or a field or a land
which is beyond right and wrong
it is also beyond acceptance and resistance.
It is beyond acceptance and rejection.
You can accept and reject
only when you identify something as good and bad,
right and wrong.
As long as you're in that realm
you will enjoy likes and dislikes.
If you're placed in that which you consider as good
you will enjoy that.
If you're placed in that which you consider as bad
you would suffer that.
In this state…
this generally…
here in this culture we just dismissed this as Rajas.
Rajasic means
like and dislike,
pleasantness and unpleasantness,
right and wrong -
all this things.
This state is very important for conducting the affairs of the world
but if you want to rule the inner kingdom
this is no good.
If you want to be
some kind of a boss,
some kind of a king in this world
you must know what's right and wrong,
you must know what's good and bad.
If you can't discriminate you cannot rule this world.
But if you want to be a king of the inner world
then if you are in this right and wrong
you will never get there;
that will not be your realm.
You can think,
you can emote
because thoughts and emotions belong to this.
The moment you think
you cannot think beyond right and wrong.
You cannot think beyond good and bad.
So, your thoughts and your emotions
belong to this realm of right and wrong.
Once you're beyond that
and you are in a field of
where there is no right and wrong
there is no thought
nor is there emotion in this.
‘Oh, is life barren?
No thought!
No emotion!
Is life barren?’
No.
One who knows the…
the boundless ecstasy of nothingness,
for him the taste of thought and emotion is very puny.
One who is constantly trapped in thought and emotion,
right and wrong,
in the dualities of life,
because he doesn’t know any better
and he doesn’t know how to get beyond this,
he has to celebrate this somehow;
he has to eulogize this,
he has to make this the highest.
Most of the world,
most of humanity
constantly goes about eulogizing
as to what is good and what is bad;
good qualities,
bad qualities;
this is what is loved and respected
and acknowledged in the world.
Simply sitting here -
called stupid,
no good.
Once there is no right and wrong
it is not only that there is no thought and emotion,
there is also not much room for action.
If action comes
it comes only as a response to what's around,
it is…the need for action is completely gone in that person.
The need to love or hate is gone in that person.
So, do not understand
being beyond right and wrong is a state of love –
no,
it is well beyond love.
To put it very simply,
to put it in a terminology that is hugely corrupted
we can call that yoga,
where everything has become one.
Love is just an effort to get there.
Love could be an escalator
but not the first floor. (Laughs)
It is not a higher floor,
it is just an escalator
but sometimes
f you're walking in the opposite direction
you could be on an escalator forever
and not get anywhere.
This happens in the airports,
there are moving tracks –
if you get onto the opposite one
you can walk forever,
not get anywhere.
Today people are hugely attached to this kind of movement
and that’s why treadmills have become so popular. (All laugh)
You can walk forever,
run forever not getting anywhere. (All laugh)
There is music on it,
there is radio on it,
it is also telling you you're getting healthier by the second (All laugh)
but you're not getting anywhere. (Laughs)
I didn’t call this love, I called this untouchable.
Untouchable either means you're unwilling to touch it
or you cannot touch it, (Laughs)
you're incapable of touching it.
‘There is a land that is beyond right and wrong
When you get to that land and lie there,
humans who live for bread and toil to be what they are not
will strive to hide their jealously with mocking talk
and the gods will descend to be in the company they wish to be
Once you have reached that land beyond right and wrong
you never have to worry about making a mistake or going wrong.’
So once you're in that land
you don’t have to worry about making a mistake or going wrong,
that’s when you live with simple abandon
where to other people it seems like you're reckless
but there's no way to make a mistake
so why should you be careful? (Laughs)