- [Announcer] Previously on Can We Cure.
- I mean, I am going away for two weeks,
essentially just Lara and I, on what's
supposed to be a life-changing trip.
Ninety-one dollars.
Just to be comfortable.
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- [Woman] Alright so, we are here at the
is it just the Carmen Laser?
- Carmen Care Laser.
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So we treat pain.
The laser companies are just putting out there,
yeah just treat your patients six or eight times
and if it doesn't work after that, it doesn't work.
Well that's not true when it's chronic illness
and chronic pain.
- I've been to I mean every
kind of therapy you can imagine for this.
- I've had so many patients that come to me
that have been to several physicians.
They're great physicians but they're limited.
It's like surgery or medication.
- I've been told since I was like 19 years old
to just get a hysterectomy and I think that's insane.
- Unfortunately we think surgery is an answer.
That's not always.
- A cure, yeah that is not the route that
I ever choose to take.
- With this, we can think out of the box and
if you think out of the box and then there are other options
for you, there are natural options.
I'm really excited to show you the T3 protocol
that we've developed.
The T3 stands for treating the trauma,
the toxins and the thoughts.
So we the trauma that's happened to the body,
toxins that can be involved and not being able to get better
and the thoughts as well.
Let's set some goals that would be realistic
that we could say, you know what, I can do this versus this
when I came.
- Right, right.
- Let's say drinking and eating.
- Yeah.
- [Leslie] So every time you eat and every time you drink,
you have pain.
- Yeah, my goal kind of just be,
to be able to go out to dinner with my boyfriend
or go out with friends and not have to go home immediately
afterwards because of how uncomfortable I am.
I used to be really hesitant to date because
I would go out, you know how there's all these memes
about girl's who eat salads instead of eating steak
and it's like, I always get so mad cause I'm like
well some people have fucking dietary restrictions,
like sorry I don't want to have extreme diarrhea
on my date because I'm eating steak just to impress you.
- My therapist told me that I should try and
write a letter to the doctor who did this to me.
I haven't spoken to him since the surgery.
We tried to sue and we couldn't because
of the statue of limitations.
So my therapist suggested, write a letter that I could burn
so I'm going to do that as part of this.
- Yeah and what we'll do in the psyche is
we're just gonna forgive him.
I know how hard that is.
- I'm gonna cry a lot.
- So will I but you know what, it's just the only way to go.
- Yeah.
- Right, it's the only way to go.
People are skeptical because it's just not out there
and that's why I'm so excited about this because
this will change the world.
This can change the understanding that laser can help you
with pain and let's hope we can do that.
So this is the detox area, which I love doing.
- [Kelsey] We love the word detox,
that's like our favorite word.
- [Leslie] I have these vials back here and
they have a specific frequency of the toxin.
- [Lara] Okay.
- This is a signal enhancer.
So I'm just gonna put this on your stomach because
these actually transfers the signal as well.
So I'm gonna ask you to hold your arm up
so you don't want to push back or push forward,
you just want to really have a steady hold
and I'm always gonna say hold for me and
I'm gonna push down and you just hold your arm
in the position.
When you feel something that's weak,
you're gonna feel like in the muscles like
you're not going to be able to hold it up
then just let it go down cause
that's the way we're gonna communicate that your body has
a toxin or it doesn't.
What we found is when we do this muscle testing,
we can find substances that have a toxic overload
in your body.
So just put your arm up for me please.
- I can hold my arm up for every freakin' thing.
For every sulfate, for every chemical and
then the second she put that trigeminal one near my hand
my arm collapsed.
- Hold for me.
So you can barely hold right?
- [Kelsey] Do you know what that is?
- [Lara] No.
- [Kelsey] It's the dioxin.
- We can find dioxin in today's food, in the milk,
in meats and it's really a herbicide
that is sprayed everywhere and it's just coming and
showing up in all different areas of our life.
- There are some studies that link dioxins
to endometriosis.
- Everybody that I treated with a dioxin,
they all had fantastic results.
- [Kelsey] It's like not banana science,
it's just like simple.
- Simple, easy. - [Kelsey] Testing.
- It's so awesome.
- [Kelsey] Like when you were talking about doing testing
we were like is she gonna take blood.
So all this shit you're holding in your hand
is the bad stuff.
- [Lara] Yep. - [Leslie] Yes.
- Like look at the difference between mine and yours
and it makes so much sense to me.
- [Lara] Yeah, whatever.
It's not a competition.
- I think you would win. - [Lara] But if it was.
- You got everything.
- So what we're doing here is we're taking a pulse laser
and we're putting that toxin that we found
through the laser.
When you understand how it works, you're going to understand
that it doesn't matter what you have.
That vibration matches the vibration that's
on your cells or in your cells and it released.
That's all we are, are cells and the laser goes directly
into the mitochondria of these cells and
stimulates their regeneration, their growth.
That's what laser's all about
it's just you doing the healing and
we're giving you energy to do that.
- [Kelsey] So like we have seen so many people that
have tried to heal us and in a weird way being here
is like we're healing ourselves?
- Yes.
- I want to believe so bad that in a month, two months
from now, I will be better.
- Sometimes I'm like really positive and
sometimes I just get into my head and I'm like
is this a waste of time, am I just buying into this
the way people buy into like pyramid schemes
on Facebook and start selling you leggings,
like I don't know.
- [Leslie] Day two.
- Morning.
So this is the newest machine that we have the velashape
and what I really love about this,
this you put on like a nice suit.
- What the fuck are we doing?
- This has very specific, patented technology
where it sucks up your skin and gives laser and light
and it stimulates your lymphatic drainage.
- [Kelsey] This body suit is very 2017 fashion.
- Yeah, I would wear it.
- If you were to like put that on my nipple,
I would like have an orgasm.
(laughs)
- It's interesting being with Kelsey cause
you never know when she's in pain but with me,
you know when I'm in pain.
- So this is the other room that do treatments too.
(laughs)
- We're gonna have a treatment that
stimulates your immune system.
So we do the carotid arteries, the adrenal glands,
the heart, so we're just gonna give your body energy
to start healing.
- My body always tenses a little bit
when anybody gets near that area.
- Of course, that's understandable.
- It's very hard for me to feel any sort of
like touching around that area because it will just
my body only remembers pain.
- So on a scale of 0 and 10 being extreme,
what would you have that as of today?
- If I actually tried to have sex, it would be like a 10.
People just like, they say they're understanding
about like oh you have pelvic pain I won't do too much.
But like even touching me with like
a Q-tip is doing too much.
I'm spending like four hours a day minimum
at this treatment center getting treatment and like
I'm still having pain.
- This is the easiest treatment I've had.
- [Lara] Like one eye is higher. It's so funny.
- Make me beautiful.
This is the area I'm most interested in seeing
what's gonna happen with it.
Am I sexy?
- [Lara] Very. - [Leslie] Yes.
- Thanks guys.
I want to feel what it's like to have my face back.
- So this is a laser with a massage ball, a glass ball,
so as soon as I mess this the laser goes off and
now you're getting the double.
You're getting the massage and laser and it feels amazing.
- This is incredible.
It's just like a waterbed but IRL.
See now only does this treatment not hurt,
it feels good.
- The massage was amazing but now I feel like shit
so who knows.
- That's what's tricky about this process is
we're just laying there and then you go home
and you're like, why do I feel like I got hit
by a fucking truck?
- Yes, you're just having a light on you.
- [Kelsey] But it's doing so much.
- I am swollen.
- [Kelsey] Can you turn to the side?
- As fuck.
- [Kelsey] It's also, you're detoxing still.
- I'm detoxing dioxin today so I think by body is just
- [Kelsey] So totally like flaring up like crazy
cause all the shit.
Meanwhile, Pepper just
me and her, this is the true love story.
Day four.
We never wear our pants anymore when we come.
(laughs)
That's how close we have become.
- I don't even wanna get too excited but
I'm not having any bad burning in my chin,
which is where it always localized all the time.
Ahhh.
(laughs)
I can't even tell you how good this feels.
- I'm feeling a little bit better today but
to be honest, I'm still not 100 percent
I'm still just very sad and I'm just kind of burnt out.
- So what we're gonna do in this segment is
addressing your belief system,
addressing the emotional part.
If you're a person that has had such chronic pain,
you've seen so many doctors and
I'm not putting doctors down at all.
But you've seen so many physicians.
You're researching, you're seeing I can't help,
there's no help, I have too much pain, nobody can help me.
So your belief system becomes weakened and
every time you see somebody, every time there's a result
where I thought this was gonna help and it didn't help
now what's the belief system?
(Sighs) This didn't help either.
When you say you have a hard time forgiving the doctor
or that you don't even like going there.
Would that be okay if we go there?
- Yeah, I mean I'm sure all that comes up
is anger and sadness.
- So can you just imagine the freedom you'd have
if you forgive him?
Right?
- Yeah, I just don't know what dumping all of this back
onto him would make me feel.
- [Leslie] Right.
- Like I don't know if I'd feel better but
I also am like, he deserves to know.
Like that's why I shut down cause I go.
- [Leslie] Is there a time where you remember
being pain free?
- I don't know if I really truly remember,
it just feels like so bad now.
I remember being happier and that makes me sad.
- It's hard to explain but one of my biggest fears is like
letting the pain win.
I kind of feel like I'm always teetering on the edge
of just complete darkness.
So I guess my fear is just falling into that darkness
or letting the cloud overtake me forever.
On my bad mental health days, I see myself as like a monster
who's just this like really difficult person to deal with,
who's always sad and always in pain and always depressed
and I'm just like this elephant that goes into the rooms
and just like knocks everything over and just reminds people
of like sadness.
I don't know.
I just convince myself that, I don't know.
People just don't want to hear about it sometimes.
- So the best would be for us to find a statement
that would let you deal with it.
- Yeah.
- You know, that would.
- Like even just like, I forgive you?
- Right, that would be the easiest.
- Yeah.
- It's just I forgive you even add whole heartedly
because it really wants to come from a place of love.
- And like even you saying that,
I want to vomit just thinking about saying that
because I almost don't believe it.
- You're afraid of the darkness.
- [Lara] Mhmm.
- So we say, I am light.
- I am light.
- Do you think it's all just like bullshit?
- I do and I don't.
I don't think it's all bullshit but I also do
if that makes sense.
- What's her mantra, I forgive whole heartedly.
- I don't even remember mine.
(laughs)
- Fuck.
- Something came in the mail for Lara and Pepper Parker
and I have no idea what it is and the only person
I think that would send it would be my boyfriend, Patrick.
- [Kelsey] Um, let's talk about Patrick.
- Dating someone who has a chronic illness is not easy
but he's just a great guy like I don't know
how I got so lucky.
Sometimes I don't feel like I deserve it.
Aww, you know what they are don't ya?
He is like my, what is it like your safety blanket
or whatever, like he is that to me.
My favorite chocolate.
I just wish he was here like
I wish I could just have a distraction.
I wish I could just hug him.
- Look dating is already fuckin' hard enough.
(laughs)
There's so many conversations that need to be had
about like intimate shit, the same way endometriosis does.
Just like kissing or like blow jobs
and it's embarrassing and it sucks
and I don't want people to feel sad for me,
I don't want people to feel sorry for me
and I feel like as soon as I introduce
TN into the relationship, it becomes like this aww.
- It's important for us to show people in our lives
that we love, what we actually go through.
Otherwise, they're just never gonna get it and
we're gonna get frustrated at them for not getting it
but we're refusing to show them, so.
- I've just been waking up every morning and like
my face is really red and everything feels locked.
- She's been lasering like all around my vagina,
my lower back, my pelvic floor muscles and stuff
and that makes sense to me but
in order to have the inside of my vagina healed and
be able to possibly do all the things that
I can't do right now like insert large tampons or
have penetration, like it makes sense to me but
it needs to go inside to do the work.
I'm not going to try this baby.
Yes, this will be going inside my vagina,
if I can get it there.
I have my handy dandy coconut oil here
to help get this mother fucker in and
we're just gonna see how it goes and
I'm obviously not going to film it because
this isn't a porno.
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- [Lara] Guess who the fuck just inserted the probe
for 20 minutes.
- You bitch.
20 minutes?
- [Lara] 20 fuckin' minutes and it didn't even hurt.
- It didn't even hurt?
- I like regressed so much since I got Botox.
I hadn't been going to physical therapy,
I get lasering 15 treatments and
it's been ten minutes still in.
Two weeks ago I tried to insert my dilatator
and I couldn't so something's fuckin' changed.
I don't wanna say it, cause I'm scared to jinx it
but I think the lasers work.
I mean the proof is in my vagina right now.
- I'm so excited for you.
Dude, that's crazy.
- [Lara] I know, but you're next.
- Next.
(laughs)
- Just imagine if I could insert super tampons
without excruciating pain,
if I could orgasm without excruciating pain,
if I could have sex.
I've never done that.
I've never done that and I might fuckin' be able to now.
That's fuckin' crazy.
- [Narrator] Next time on Can We Cure.
- How the times have changed.
- I just started my period and
it will be really interesting to see how this goes.
- We leave tomorrow and I still haven't written
this fucking letter to the doctor.
I don't wanna.
- I'm hoping that this is the new normal.
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