Bad news for Firefly and Dollhouse fans, Mason, and I'll tell you why.
Joss Whedon?
Yes
He is going to be directing
He fell into a well
Yeah that's right
So, he's going to be writing, directing and producing a Batgirl movie for DC
That's right
Which is great news, right?
Yeah
For that... no?
I think it is, yeah
Yeah yeah. I mean, who knows how anything is going to go, ever
But I think this is a good step for DC to get some fresh blood in, but also someone who knows what they're doing
Right
As we know he directed the Avengers but he didn't just direct it when he came on board he threw out the script
He erected it
He erected it in a big way
He threw out the script and re-wrote it and he was like "This isn't good so I'm going to fix it"
So the reason the Avengers works is because he made , well one of the reasons
And then off the back of that he did Age of Ultron which he was really unhappy with because there was a lot of pressures for him
to kind of repeat the success and there was meddling and it's a fine movie, it's ok
It's pretty ok
Yeah, that's it
And I think if that had been the first Avengers then that would have been, kind of, received better
because I think it's solid but it's, it is a lot of the same
What's the best scene in Age of Ultron?
I think it's the scene between Hawkeye and Scarlett Witch
when the actions happening and he's like "When you step out of the door you're an Avenger". You know that one?
Oh yeah, that's alright but it's the Hulkbuster scene
Oh yeah, that's pretty good too
When the Hulkbuster smashes everything, that's pretty good
And I like Captain America's fight with Ultron as well
I mean he should be... That shouldn't last very long
But he's so American that he can get away with it
He actually wrote a treatment for...
Also I loved Andy Serkis' accent
That's right. Yeah
Yeah
"Cuttlefish"
"Do you want some kind of treat?" was that what he did?
Yeah
He's offering everybody treats
"Have a treat"
"Treat yourself"
"We have weird candy, in Johannesburg"
He wrote a treatment for Wonder Woman about 10 years ago
Yeah, that's right
Which they scrapped
The presumption was that the story would be they're doing Batgirl, they're gonna do the Killing Joke
because that's kind of the most well known Batgirl story
I guess?
Well it's most significant in terms of her character's history, I suppose
I'd say throw it in the bin
Well, that's exactly it
Because I feel like this universe has also moved so far along that if that had have happened
it would have happened 10 years prior or whatever because Batman's much older, the Joker's been banging about for quite a while
And what we get if we get the Killing Joke is tradgedy and we get... we know where it's going to go
Yeah
We know it's going to result in Batgirl being out of action
I don't want Batgirl out of action
Right, yeah
Exactly, I mean I could understand that they would definitley call back to it
Yeah
But from what I've heard, the rumor is that it's going to cover the New 52 run by Gale Simone
that began in 2011
Ok
Not the hipster, living the high life version
Though, because it's Joss Whedon, it wouldn't surprise me if he brought in elements of that
He will bring in elements of that, yeah
Yeah, so the idea is that she's kind of recovered from being shot through the spine
and she's still kind of physcologically damaged
How do you feel about that, I think we've mentioned that on the podcast before. Because after that she was replaced by Stephanie Brown
who was the next Batgirl
And you like Stephanie Brown, don't you?
Yeah, but I also feel like there's so few people in wheelchairs in comic books
Right yeah
And I feel like that was maybe kind of a bad move to reverse that
and be like "Yeah she's fine now. She was just in physical therapy for 3 months and now she's fine"
They probably used that magic rope from The Dark Knight Rises that put
Bruce Wayne's spine back together
That's true, yeah
"Aaaahh, God! Aaaah"
Yeah
They used that magic kick
Yeah that's right
Just kick a guy's back in
So...
I think it's good to move past that if you're going to tell a Batgirl story
It's an interesting backstory for a movie, do you know what I mean?
I completely understand where you're coming from because she's a really integral part
when she's Oracle, of that universe
and especially the Batman Arkham games
like a really significant part of that aswell
but it's kind of... I think it will be really good to see her Batgirl-ing about in the streets and having her own thing going on
I agree, yeah
a big screen adaptation that wasn't Batman and Robin
Yes
Well, funnny you should mention that because Gale Simone said on twitter
that her greatest hope is that Alicia is in the movie that would mean a lot to so many
plus she's fun
She doesn't mean Alicia Silverstone, Mason I got ya, April Fools
I got ya
There's a character called Alicia Yeoh who's the first openly transgender character in comics apparently
So, that's somebody that she wants to put in
How do you think this will be tonely? What do you think they're going to do with this?
Is it going to be like a Buffy the Vampire Slayer kinda vibe, like it's got elements of darkness
but it's quips and kicks and jumpin' about
having a coffee with your pals
kicking a bloody mobster in the head or whatever
That's interesting, good question
Thank you
What if it were kind of like... what if it were Portlandia by day
and then, like, Batman V Superman at night
I would kind of like that if it was kind of fun and fun and friends and whacky
Yeah
"Oh, we're the hipsters and our cold-pressed coffee or whatever"
and then they switch to night time and she's just pulping somebody's skull
Y'know?
Absolutely, yeah
Uh, amazing
So, I don't know. I feel like it's going to sit more kind of Buffy than maybe on the darker side
Yeah, I hope so
I think maybe Batgirl is where tonely that would work better
Yeah
Maybe, I dunno
Yeah, absolutely, I don't disagree but I really like the choice
like I don't love everything Joss Whedon's done. I didn't particularly care for Doll House
but apparently it gets a lot better?
I'm never gonna find out
But obviously, Avengers speaks for itself, Firefly's great, I know you're a big fan of Buffy
So, it's a great choice and I feel like it's kind of good for DC to kind of get away from the kind of mold
they're kind of put themselves in with the grim and gritty/Zack Snyder/everything's slow mo kicking each other in the dark
or whatever. I just think it's good to get other creatives in like we've got James Wan doing one now
and maybe if the Flash ever happens that'll be good
Who knows?
That super-speed effect's pretty good... so yeah
and Matt Reeves doing Batman obviously so I think
For now
For now, yeah, I think this is... it's good news on the whole for DC
but I want to talk casting Mason
Ah, yes
I said to you before the show, do you have any casting prefrences?
and then I said
And I was like "Bleeeeuuuuuu, ask me later"
And then I said "Don't worry, I've made a list. So you don't actually have to think of any"
Alright, well I mean I think a lot of people have gone "Emma St..." I think she should be older
If Batman's older, I think Batgirl should be older
But isn't she like college aged in the New 52 version
and if she's commissioner Gordon's daughter
but then if she's been shot through the spine, when did that happen
I think she needs to be
And if Batman had sex with her like in the Killing Joke animated movie
Oh no
Did you see that? So weird
It's real weird
Here we go, I've got some names
Emma Stone
I don't know, I'm going to say Jessica Chastain, that's my choice
Ok yeah, I like that
but if we're going from what I assume to be natural red-heads
Sure
It's like when back when Lex Luthor was being cast it was like "Who's bald?"
"Who can be bald?"
"Who are the bloody chrome domes in the DC universe?"
Emma Stone (Yep), Emma Watson (Yeah alright), Emma Roberts (Alright), Emma Thompson
Aw yeah
Any of those good?
Nah
No?
Nah, too young
Ok, I got more
And I mean, they're gonna cast young because why would they cast anyone with any acting experience
What about Alice Eve?
Yeah, ok. That could work
Little bit older? So you thinking like early 30s maybe?
Well, Jessica Chastain's 40 so
They were talking about her for Poison Ivy or people were pushing her Poison Ivy which I think could work aswell
Either of those is fine
Yeah, Evan Rachel Wood? Who's from Westworld
Yep
I like that a lot
That's good
Chloë Grace Moretz
Way too young
Yeah, I don't like that either
She's good as Hitgirl but I think she's actually stepped away for a bit. She was supposed to do
the Little Mermaid and she was like "Idon'twannadomoviesathemoment"
So, yeah
Naomie Harris from the Bond franchise
Oh, she's Moneypenny right?
She's Moneypenny yeah
I mean, that could work
Hayley Atwell
Uh, ok but that would be...
A conflict?
That would be a conflict of interests, yeah
But if they're doing anything with her, I don't know that she's coming back
Right
She's probably still contracted for a bunch of stuff
Then totally Hayley Atwell, that would be good
Here's one from Dollhouse fame and also True Lies fame Eliza Dushku, how do you say that, I don't know
Yeah, you nailed that
Did I? Thank you
Probably
Yeah maybe. What about that?
What's she done lately?
For you? Nothing
Wow, then she's out
Uh, Alicia Vikander
From?
Ex Machina
She's also the current Tomb Raider
Oh really?
Yeah there was some pictures that came out this week
I don't know about that, I don't know how that works
I feel she's quite... I feel she's too petite
Right, yeah yeah
And I know we all kind of grew up on, like, Batman : The Animated Series
where all the men are , like brickwalls
and all the women are these tiny, petite women but I think she should be, I dunno
Because like Batman, y'know, Affleck Batman he's been doing it for a long time and he's huge
He's a massive fella
Make her kinda, bigger. I dunno
Yeah, absolutely
Last one I got here, who's also a red-head is Rose Lesley who you might know as Jon Snow's girlfriend
Oh, the wildling
Which I don't mind that very much, yeah
Who's red-headed?
Anyway, Batgirl, very excited
look forward to it in 5-7 years, who knows?
Yep
It hasn't been officially announced but it did come through Variety so it's probably true
Good to see Joss Whedon burning some bridges, jumping ship, getting on board something else
Well how many more could he do?
Exactly, he was done, he didn't want to do anymore
Yeah exactly and there's no way he could...even if the next one lives up to the quality of Avengers or whatever
Yeah
then... I dunno
Shut up
Yeah, shut up exactly
Ok
You seem ginge and bald, Joss Whedon. Shut up
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