How do the big channels seem to ignore the little guys?
So how do we collab and then similarly,
how to approach another YouTuber with a larger
audience to collab with.
And then there was also a question about collabs.
Not sure who asked it.
So I guess people want to about that.
Have you guys ever done anything with collaborations?
What I find, a lot of people they're
true intentions behind collabing is to self-promote, try and get
a few of our videos and bank everything off of that,
but you've just really got to be genuine about what you do.
And people that genuinely want to do collabs will.
It may take awhile, but ultimately it's
going to be better in the end for both of you
when you're trying to help each other out
than just being a little schemer and trying to grow off
the fan base of another channel.
Yeah, and you've got to realize, a lot of the big channels
have been burned so many times in the past
by people they thought that they had relationships with
and they thought they could trust
and they were just using them to try
to get those views and those subscribers.
So really it's about interacting with them,
building that relationship with them,
and hey, if you have that relationship then
they will trust you.
They're like, you know what, I will
look at doing a collaboration with you.
But really, look at other people.
Interact with people that are the same size as you.
There's lots of people out there that
really want to grow their channels
and they'll work with you guys.
If you work together as a team and build a community,
and people actually will see, hey, those people
really get along.
I really like watching them work together,
and I can really see they're actually friends.
I want to be watching this continue on.
So I would say don't try to just go up with the big guys.
Work with the community that you've
got because those are the people that are really
going to be with you in the long run.
I've only done a few collabs.
We just kept it really simple and that
seemed to work really well for me and the guy
I was collaborating with as opposed to other people
that I've approached.
Or we approached each other I should say,
but it was more complicated.
And it was so complicated that it was too time
consuming to actually be successful.
My experience with collabs is that you
get to do collabs after you've got-- like one
of you were saying before-- getting
to know the other person and they get to know you,
and being genuine with them and you
it can lead to some really good stuff.
And that has happened to me with some collabs
with one particular quite large YouTuber here in Australia
and I got 100,000 views on a video out of that just because
of a collab with him and he whacked it
on his channel, featured it, and I mean,
it worked with both ways.
It worked very well for me, obviously,
but he enjoyed the experience as well.
So, yeah, it's got to be-- I think
to get the maximum benefits, it's got to be genuine.
Yeah, one of the things Mystery Guitar Man says
is that when you approach someone to do a collaboration,
especially if they're a channel that's way bigger than you, is
you just can't go to them and be, like, hey,
I want to do a collaboration with you.
And they're like, yeah, you and everyone else.
So you have to find what value can you bring to that creator.
So what Mystery Guitar Man, Joe Penna, Japan what he says
is if you are really good at music composition,
offer to score one of their upcoming videos for them
and offer value to them.
That way, in exchange for them giving you
a shout out or a thank you, you know?
Or if you're really good at visual effects,
do some visual effect work for them
or whatever you might be really strong in,
whether that's in the production side or the producing
side or audience development side
or whatever strength you bring to the table,
offer that to them and do it that way.
Because he said when you can save creators' time, their most
valuable asset, and you can do something for them that
saves them time, that's what they're really interested in.
And that's exactly what Chad is saying
here too in the comments.
If you want to collab with a bigger YouTuber,
you have to bring something to the table
that they are not able to do.
Oh, this is exactly the same.
Better to find similar size.
And I think that's actually probably the place to start
is to find someone who's close to your level
or even below you.
Don't always just be like, hey, I'm
trying to leech off of someone else.
Be like, hey, I'll to the little guy.
For example, probably in the next couple of weeks,
I'm going to be doing a collaboration with Social
Blade.
They're channel has 100 and some thousand plus subscribers
and we just past 5,000, but it's actually
more about the community aspect and the value
that you're bringing to the other person.
Now that Google+ is so much more incorporated with YouTube,
being able to create your own circles--
and I thought having a specific spot for people that you would
want to connect with, a unique circle to where you can be able
to contact these people outside of just the noise of YouTube.