READ IT.
>> JAY WAS CHIEF COUNSEL
AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND
JUSTICE AND MEMBER OF THE
PRESIDENT LEGAL TEAM GOOD
MORNING TO YOU, JAY.
>> TBORNTION THANKS FOR BEING
HERE WHAT WAS YOUR TAKE AWAY?
>> LOOK, BOB MUELLER WAS TRYING
TO DEFEND INDEFENSIBLE THAT WAS
INCOHERENT AS WRITTEN AND WORSE
AS PLAYED OUT ON LIVE TV.
IT WAS A --
TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE WASTE OF
TAXPAYER MONEY ON WHOLE HOST OF
LEVELS BUT THAT CAPITALIZE WHAT
THIS WAS AND PRESIDENT HAS BEEN
UNDER THIS AS HE CALLS IT A
WITCH HUNT AND LOOK WHAT THEY
WERE TRYING TO FIND, AND YET
WHEN THEY PUT THE ARCHITECT A
PERSON THAT'S IN CHARGE OF THE
INVESTIGATION, THE FERN THAT
WROTE THE REPORT UP ON THE
STAND, THAT IT WAS LIKE I COULD
QUOTE EVERY COMMENTATOR FROM ERE
OTHER NETWORK NOT FROM OURS BUT
EVERY OTHER NETWORK AND THEY
SAID DISASTER TRAIN WRECK,
HORRIBLE, THIS IS NOT WHAT I'M
SURE IS THEY EXPECTED.
AND I'M A BIT SURPRISED FRANKLY
THAT, I MEAN, I KNOW NANCY
PELOSI WAS TRYING TO PUT ON A
HAPPY FACE YESTERDAY WITH THE
PRESS CONFERENCE.
BUT IT WAS SURPRISING ME THAT
EVEN MEMBERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY WERE LAST NIGHT
RECOGNIZING THAT THIS WAS AS ONE
COMMENTATOR CALLED IT A TRAIN
WRECK.
>> WELL IT WAS CLEAR AND WE
HEARD TESTIMONY SHADE TO THE
EFFECT ESSENTIALLY THE WHOLE
OPERATION WITH STAFF DIRECTED,
AND THAT BRINGS UP THE QUESTION
YOU KNOW, WHO EXACTLY WAS
PULLING STRINGS ON THIS THING WE
SAW ROBERT MUELLER GO TO SIT
BEHIND A WHOLE WALL IN THE DESK
AT ONE POINT WE HAVE A MANAGE
HERE.
HERE'S MR. MUELLER BEING PRESSED
ON IF HE SHOULD HAVE POLLED HIS
PROSECUTORS ON THEIR POLITICAL
VIEW.
>> YOU HIRED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE
THAT DID NOT LIKE THE PRESIDENT
LET ME ASK YOU WHEN DID YOU
FIRST LEARN OF PETER STRZOK
TOWARDS DONALD TRUMP?
>> IN SUMMER OF 2017.
YOU DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE HE WAS
HIRED FOR YOUR TEAM?
>> KNOW WHAT?
>> PETER STRZOK HATED TRUMP.
ARE YOU AWARE THAT MR. GENIE
REPRESENTED IN LITIGATION
REGARDING PERSONAL E-MAIL
ORIGINAL NATEING FROM CLINTON
TIME AS SECRETARY OF STATE?
>> YES.
DID YOU KNOW THAT BEFORE SHE
CAME ON --
>> NO.
>> SO KIND OF MAKES THE POINT
THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID
THEY'VE GOT ALL OF THESE ANGRY
DEMOCRATS BEHIND THE SCENES ON
MUELLER TEAM SO YOU HAVE 12 OR
12 PROSECUTORS THAT TWISTED AND
TURNED TRIED TO DO EVERYTHING
THEY COULD TO COME UP WITH A
COLLUSION NARRATIVE, A
CONSPIRACY NARRATIVE.
AND OBSTRUCTION NARRATIVE AND
EVEN WITH ALL OF THEIR TWISTING
AND TURNING, AND LEGAL THEORIES
THEY COULDN'T DO IT AND AT THE
MOMENT OF PROOF THE QUESTION YOU
KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO BE
ASKED --
CONGRESSMAN TED LIEU ASKED THE
QUESTION AND BOB MUELLER GIVE
ANSWER SAY WE DIDN'T PROSECUTE
BECAUSE OF THE OLC OPINION AND
THAT CONTRADICTS HIS OWN REPORT
HE COMES BACK IN THE AFTERNOON
SAYS LET ME CORRECT SOMETHING IT
WAS ONLY BY THE WAY ONE OF THE
BIGGEST TAKE AWAYS OF THE WHOLE
DAY.
AND HE COMES BECOME AND WHAT DID
HE SAY?
WE DID NOT MAKE A DETERMINES ON
CULPABILITY IN OTHER WORDS AS
THEY SAY IN THE REPORT WE DID
NOT ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF THE
PRESIDENT'S CONDUCT AS A CRIME .
NOT ADDRESSED WE DIDN'T MAKE
THAT DETERMINES, IN FACT, THEY
SAID DIFFICULT QUESTIONS OF LAW,
IN FACT, ARE PRESENT HERE SO
THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF REASONS
THEY DID NOT MOVE FORWARD.
THE MOST OF WHICH IS THEY HAVE
NO CASE.
BELIEVE ME, IF THIS GROUP HAD A
CASE, IF THERE'S NICE ONE OF YOU
DISAGREE WITH ME THEY WOULD TRY
TO BRING IT.
FIRST HALF OF THE REPORT THE WAY
RUSSIANS ARE SCRAMBLING TO GET A
HOOK BECAUSE HE WINS ELECTION
AND THEY HAVE NO CONNECTIONS AND
TESTING HIS OWN TO GO PIENGDZ
OUT WHO I CAN TALK TO.
TALKING ABOUT I HAVE A CALL FROM
A RUSSIAN ON MY VOICE MAIL I
DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS BUT IT IS
VLADIMIR PUTIN I DON'T TO BLOW
HIM OFF THAT'S HOW CONFUSING
COLLUSION WAS REAL QUICK.
>> HOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY,
YOU KNOW, HE SAID WELL --
THERE WASN'T A QUESTION OF
COLLUSION WE DIDN'T LOOK AT
COLLUSION AND THEN PAGE 180 OF
HIS REPORT HE SAYS COLLUSION IS
EFFECTIVELY CONSPIRACY.
>> HIS REPORT --
HIS TEAM WROTE IT.
>> SEEING FOR THE FIRST TIME.
SHAY IF YOU ARE --
KNOWN AS CONSERVATIVE ATTORNEY.
RIGHT SO IF SOMEONE HAD TO
INVESTIGATE YOU HIRE JAY SEC TO
INVESTIGATE A DEMOCRATIC
PRESIDENT, DO YOU GET HUGE
PUSHBACK ASSIGNED TO THAT LEGAL
TEAM SO HERE'S --
BUT ROBERT MUELLER SAYS IT
SHOULDN'T MATTER IN THE LEGAL I
NEVER ASKED PEOPLE THEIR
POLITICAL AFFILIATION.
WHAT'S THE TRUTH?
>> THEY WERE GIVING MONEY TO
HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN AND
OTHER DEMOCRATIC CAMPAIGNS
HERE'S IRONY OF THIS IS BOB WAS
TRYING HE SAYS RIGHT TO AVOID
EVEN THE APPEARANCE OF BIAS OR
INPROPRIETY YET THEY DOAPGHT ASK
THAT QUESTION AND ONE THAT CAN'T
BEING MOTHERED PETER STRZOK'S
E-MAILS WERE BADS ENOUGH THE
TEXT MESSAGING BAD ENOUGH RIGHT.
HORRIBLE.
BUT YET BOB MUELLER AND HIS TEAM
ALLOWED THE PHONE THAT CONTAIN
THE INFORMATION TO BE WIPED
CLEAN.
IN OTHER WORDS, DESTRUCTION OF
EVIDENCE.
THAT'S WHAT WAS GOING ON HERE SO
TIME INVERTS TO BE INVESTIGATED
Wii TBOIPG TO GET TO THE
BOTTOM OF THIS.
PSM IF YOU'RE INVESTIGATING
CRIME THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO
WITH POLITICS YOU DON'T HAVE
ATTORNEYS HOW THEY VOTE BUT IN
THIS CASE, THEY'RE TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT IF THE PRESIDENT WAS
COLLUDING WITH RUSSIA THEY'RE
TRYING --
THEY KNOW THAT WELL --
CLEESHLY HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT
GPS IS FUSION GPS IS.
BUT FUSION GPS USED THIS AND
THAT CAN IT BACK TO HILLARY
CLINTON AND DNC THAT MONEY WAS
USED FOR THE DOSSIER THAT WAS
WRITTEN BY CHRISTOPHER STEELE.
AND THAT WAS USED TO SURVEY THE
PRESIDENT.
THE PRESIDENT SAY HOW DID THAT
THE NO I KNOW WHERE THEY STOOD
POLITICALLY?
>> WELL THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHERE
THEY STOOD POLITICALLY HOW DID
HE NOT KNOW WHO FUSION GPS WAS.
WERE YOU LIVING IN A CAVE?
THIS IS --
ACCIDENTALLY KIND OF ANSWERED
THAT HE SAID WELL I'M NOT
FAMILIAR WITH --
ACTUALLY THAT'S NOT IN THE
REPORT.
>> BUT STEEL DOSSIER IS ALL OVER
THAT REPORT BUT MOST TELLING
ISSUE I THINK --
WHEN HE WAS ASKED ABOUT THAT
EXONERATION NONSENSE DO NOT
EXONERATE.
AND HE WAS ASKED IS THERE ANY
HISTORICAL PRECEDENT FOR THE
POLICY YOU PUT FORWARD ON
EXONERATION AND BOB MUELLER SAID
THERE IS NOT.
AND SO THE PRESIDENT IS BEING
TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN ANY
OTHER CITIZEN IN THE CONTEXT OF
A BURDEN OF PROOF THAT IS UPSIDE
DOWN AND CONTRARY TO ENTIRE
SYSTEM OF JUSTICE.
>> YOU KNOW, AFTER WATCHING IT
FOR SIX HOURS YESTERDAY JAY I
THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE FROM
FRUSTRATED BUT TRIED TO
DISCREDIT THE ANSWERS THAT WE
PROVIDED IT TO THE QUESTIONS.
THAT WERE SUBMITTED BUT YOU KNOW
I'LL TELL YOU THIS IN THE
CORRESPONDENTS THAT WE HAVE WITH
A SPECIAL COUNSEL OFFICE
REGARDING THOSE QUESTIONS I THEY
NEVER RAISED ISSUE OF
UNTRUTHFULNESS THAT NERP NOT
TRUTH L AND HE KIND OF INTIMATED
ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK IT WAS A
DIRECT ANSWER TO THE QUESTION
BUT SOME OF THE NEXT RAN OFF
WITH THAT.
AND IF I REALLY GOT ON THAT LAST
NIGHT AND SAID THAT DOES NOT
TRUE I HAVE EVIDENCE ON THAT,
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THE
CORRESPONDENT SHOWED AT ALL.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE WE GO
FROM HERE.
YOU MENTION TEXT MESSAGE GETTING
DELETED HOW MUCH DO WE KNOW HOW
MUCH IS STILL OUT THERE DID
HOROWITZ COLLECT ADDITIONS
BECAUSE THERE'S REPORTS OVER THE
LAST TWO DAYS THAT THEY FOUND
ADDITIONAL TEXT AND THEY LEAD TO
COMEY .
>> YES.
SO THERE'S A WHOLE SERIES OF
ISSUES WITH WITH JAMES COMEY
THAT'S JAMES COMEY AND THIS
AGENT THAT WAS PLANTED INSIDE
THE WHITE HOUSE.
THAT PING IS GOING TO BE A HUGE
ISSUE.
I THINK IT IS GUY NAME IS FIRENA
LENT OVER TO MSA IN THE WHITE
HOUSE, HE WAS COMMUNICATING WITH
COMEY LOOK I THINK WHAT DURHAM
WILL DO TO ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR
AND HOROWITZ REPORT IS TBING TO
BE DEVASTATE AND YOU NOTICE
JAMES COMEY SILENCED FOR LAST
THREE OR FOUR DAYS.
PFNL BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT
FUSION GPS HOW IT HE NOT BE
FAMILIAR REQUEST THAT AFTER WE
SPENT 25 MILLION DOLLARS
BASICALLY TWO YEARS OF AN
INVESTIGATION WHAT IS THAT
TELLING YOU?
DOES THAT TELL YOU.
HE DOESN'T HAVE A TELEVISION OR
NEWSPAPER --
>> FOR YEAR.
>> I'LL TELL YOU WHAT IT TELLS
ME HE WASN'T RUNNING THIS
INVESTIGATION.
THIS WAS AN INVESTIGATION RUN
BY --
HIS DEPUTIES AND HIS ASSISTANTS.
>> WHY MAKE HIM THE LEAD BUY
?MPLE HERE'S THE QUESTION TO ASK
YOURSELF, WHY IS IT THAT WHEN HE
ASKED A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO --
THAT IN ORDER FOR HIM TO TESTIFY
HE WANTED AARON HIS DEPUTY TO BE
NEXT TO HIM AND ULTIMATELY SWORN
IN IN THE HOUSE AND WHERE IT HE
HAVE TO HAVE THAT?
NOW YOU SAW WHY.
EXACTLY.
JAY IS THE PRESIDENT MORE A TO
LOOK TO PARDON THOSE WHO PAID
PRICE FOR KNOW HIM TODAY THAN
YESTERDAY.
YOU KNOW, IN'T HAVE THE HAD THE
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PRESIDENT
REGARDING WHO GET PARLDEN WHO
WOULD NOT BE PARDONED THAT WOULD
BE WITH THE PRESIDENT AND THAT
REST WITH THE PRESIDENT.
BUT THERE'S BEEN NO DISCUSSION
AS FAR AS I KNOW REGARDING THOSE
ISSUES.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF
INJUSTICE HERE.
I MEAN, THIS IS --
SOME OF THIS IS JUST OUTRAGEOUS
I MEAN LIKE GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS
THIS IS LIKE SOME OF THE THINGS
THAT WEPT ON HERE, AND LOOK, THE
IRE REALTIES IRREGULARITIES OF
THIS ARE DISASTROUS BUT JERRY
KNADLER LET BOB MUELLER TESTIFY
YESTERDAY.
AND AFTER HE HAS TO HAVE AARON
THERE YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT HE
WOULD HAVE SAID MAYBE THIS ISN'T
SUCH A GOOD IDEA BUT YOU KNOW
WHAT HAD I THINK THEY THOUGHT.
I THINK THEY THOUGHT WE WHEN I
SAY WE THE PRESIDENT AND
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OR
SOMEBODY TRYING TO BLOCK THIS
NOBODY DID.
AND THERE THEY WERE THEY KIND OF
GOT HOISTED ON THEIR OWN THERE
AND TRYING TO COME OUT TO SAY WE
GOT GREAT REVELATION AND DIDN'T
EXONERATE THE PRESIDENT RIGHT HE
BAN EXONERATE A PRESIDENT OR YOU
CONGRESSMAN HAD KNADLER ME OR
ANYBODY ELSE.
THEY DON'T GET TO DO THAT
EXACTLY.
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