Former President Trump has been indicted again
this time for his alleged efforts to keep in high top secret and other
documents that have been subpoenaed by the Department of Justice
on Fox News. This is one of the reasons he said he defied The subpoena
and did not return those documents that were requested.
I had
a boxer’s. I want to go through the boxes and get all my personal
things out.
I don’t want to hand that over to narrate yet
and I was very busy as you’ve sort of seen before I send boxes
over, I have to take all of my things out. These boxes were interspersed
with all sorts of things,
so you’re a lawyer.
Is that how subpoenas work sound plausible to you? I just
thought that maybe that
if you might not have been the one he should have given
a couple of points if I was representing.
Donald Trump. I would not advise him to talk about the subject matter
of ongoing litigation because whatever he says can be used
for them, it could be used against him.
That’s a mistake.
In terms of these the excuse
I find it.
I just have questions about it.
He said that I had golf shoes. I had golf equipment inside
these boxes.
My question. When I heard that was,
how did you mix golf equipment with
confidential papers from when you were president? I don’t understand
that at all.
I’m sure.
I was advised
just give it all back to him.
You can always get your golf equipment back if you don’t. But for whatever
reason
and I’m thinking now
is Trump thinking five steps ahead
maybe it’s better. I get indicted. Maybe it’s bad makes me a martyr.
It
was ensures. I get the nomination and when we actually increase my opportunity
to get elected president again.
Maybe that’s what he’s thinking. I mean
for normal people
you wouldn’t think that you’d say look, I don’t want any trouble.
Is there a double standard in Justice?
Probably
But the question I ask is
not is there a double standard is is are no standard going to be
lowest common denominator so Hillary Clinton did and she got away with
it. So
shouldn’t everybody.
So then we’d have no confidential documents anywhere and no ramifications
apples to oranges in terms of the exact comparisons, but
I get your point.
Mark,
what do you think of the rest of their GOP field?
And a lot of the folks other GOP folk are just there come to
his defense
continually,
no matter what happens.
Well, they read the same polls that I read and do and that shows
that Republican primary voters, love Donald Trump. There simply
is not a
sort of
target audience within the GOP. Electorate, that’s a majority
that
wants to see Trump indicted and removed. You have
sixty to seventy percent of Republican primary voters are very positive
opinion of trump in all elections scenarios. He Trump’s
every bar Trump’s up but defeats
everybody else
by a 10 to 15 Point margin.
And this is
Within a GOP primaries
that in every state, almost every state is very majoritarian.
Allocation formula is meaning
if you get 40 45 percent of the vote,
you tend to get 65 75.
Sometimes a hundred percent of the delegates to the National Convention.
So
as long as the GOP field remains so divided
and
this is it really isn’t hurting Trump, the indictment doesn’t hurt him, it actually
helps them with Republican primary voters where it hurts them is going to November
where he could quite possibly lose because of it are.
Right now you’d say it’s probably would be likely to lose because of it,
but that’s about it. So I learned a new word majoritarian.
I’m going to use that around The Newsroom today. A number of times,
Gary you’ve been a
Conservative Republican for a long time.
What is the
attraction
for the Republican party
for a president who
clearly
is not exactly a choir boy
and has been dipping around indictments and
fraud case.
Isis and all kind of other things all this time and still has
a
the
support that.
I think it’s a selective memory of the things he did as president,
that they liked
and forgetting some of the things he did. They really didn’t like, like he was the
major sponsor of
dr. Fauci.
He is the one who empowered him. He’s the one who started the lockdowns.
He’s
the one who started the wild spending, because the covid. I mean, there’s a whole
lot of things that are concerned, they’re not conservative, but I think the
people what people like is the Trump sums is knows that.
The Establishment and I think they really liked that because
in the Republican Party, there’s a feeling that the major media
is biased.
It has been forever,
the culture is biased, I mean, they think they’re losing all over the place
so
they wanted to have someone who stands up and speaks out and is not
nice to everybody
but treats them the way they perceive their being treated. So I think that’s his
attraction
but the problem is,
if you look back at his presidency and I think when people do study it,
it
was basically chaos.
You had a
Cason director showed up one day is gone two days later.
You know
you have
now the Trump and the Trump bickering with different people
and going after an attacking people
much lower than his
than his stage when we went after the
Gold Star father
who have to be, I think he was Muslim, but whatever
he
went after him because his
father had attacked Trump but he’s a father who lost his son.
I mean,
why do you engage in this? But yet he did and he called him names and
I
think people are getting tired, all the name-calling.
Ang and the stupid nicknames,
it’s just
it’s too much. And so, the reason I think that Trump lost the election
because I don’t think buying one
Biden’s campaign was really smart. They said, let’s just let Trump. Implode
we should give him the stage, let him do whatever he wants to do and Biden
went to his basement.
Okay. So
I got to get you out of here but you just you don’t think buying one so you don’t
know. I think Biden did not win the election. I think that Trump lost
it. Okay. But numbers-wise, you’re thinking about talking about how this
occasion, okay? I just thought, okay, I was a whole different story,
I think.
Do I think there was cheating? Yes, to I think the cheating was enough to affect the election.
No quickly. You have the 30 seconds left, a hundred, Biden,
got a deal,
you think it was
the appropriate deal and what do you think? Republicans are still going after him the way they
are.
Well, Republicans were going to be happy with anything other than hard
prison time for a long time.
The reality in the United States is the comparison is not
hundred, Biden versus the rest of the population. It’s
100 Biden compared to other wealthy, white individuals,
who can hire good, legal defense. I think we look at those.
Hundred Biden’s deal is pretty similar to what? They get.
Okay.
I think that’s a good analysis. I’m but I think there was more to this story
and it was sad on by the justice department. Clearly
there is, there is smoke at least that there is Major
League bribery going on from foreign countries that involve the Biden family.
Hey, may involve other political families in the country because
people
think that politics in America is for sale.
Well, you know what?
As always with you, we got more to talk about, you don’t have time
to
care.
Um, back and do that again.
Thank you back for me,
always a pleasure. Yes, sir, good to see you as well. Dr.
Mark Jones, Gary Polland
thank you for your perspectives and thank you for being here this morning.