THERE WAS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THIS.
>> ANOTHER BUSY DAY. KELLY, THANK YOU.
>>> LET'S CHEW ON THIS FOR A BIT.
WE WANT TO BRING IN INDICATELY HEWITT BURNES, NATIONAL REPORTER
FOR "REAL CLEAR POLITICS," AND NBC NEWS SECURITY ANALYST JEREMY
BASH, FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF AT THE CIA AND PENTAGON UNDER
PRESIDENT OBAMA. GOOD MORNING TO YOU BOTH.
YOU'VE BEEN TALKING TO YOUR SOURCES IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
WHAT IS THE MOOD? THEIR BOSS WAS JUST FIRED VIA
TWITTER AFTER DAYS OF BEING INSULTED ON LINE.
>> CERTAINLY A SIGNIFICANT TURNING POINT IN THIS WHITE
HOUSE. REINCE PRIEBUS AND DROMP NEVER
HAD THE KIND -- DONALD TRUMP NEVER HAD THE KIND OF RAPPORT
THAT PRESIDENTS TYPICALLY HAVE WITH THEIR CHIEFS OF STAFF.
GENERAL KELLY, ON THE OTHER HAND, ENJOYS THE RESPECT OF THE
PRESIDENT WHICH IS KEY HERE. WE KNOW THE PRESIDENT HAS AN
AFFINITY WITH GENERALS AND HAS DEVELOPED A GOOD RAPPORT AT HIS
POST. HE'S SEEN BY THE PRESIDENT AS AN
EFFECTIVE LEADER IN THAT POST, PARTICULARLY ON THE AGENDA
ITEMS. SO AN IMPORTANT PIVOT POINT, BUT
ALSO SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO HAVE TO MANAGE VARIOUS FACTIONS
WITHIN THE WHITE HOUSE. >> ARE STAFFERS POSITIVE ABOUT
THIS CHANGE? ARE THEY LOOKING FORWARD TO
MAYBE HAVING A MORE DIRECT LINE OF POWER?
>> WELL, THE BIGGEST QUESTION REMAINING IS WHAT THE HIERARCHY
WILL BE LIKE. WHAT LATITUDE GENERAL KERAL KEL
TO OPERATE IN THIS WHITE HOUSE. WHAT KIND OF POSITION HE CAN BE
IN TO RESTORE OR TO BRING, I SHOULD SAY, IMPOSE DISCIPLINE
WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT. >> LET ME FOLLOW UP THEN.
JEREMY, OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW JOHN KELLY WELL, HAVING WORKED
CLOSELY WITH HIM AT THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT.
LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WERE SAYING.
CAN HE BRING CALM TO THIS WHITE HOUSE?
YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE PERPETUALLY
ENGULFED IN DRAMA. >> WELL, I KNOW JOHN KELLY WELL,
AS YOU REFERENCED. I TRAVELED AROUND THE WORLD WITH
HIM. HE'S A GREAT AMERICAN.
HE'S A GREAT PATRIOT. WE SHOULD NOTE THAT HE AND HIS
WIFE KAREN HAVE DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO PUBLIC SERVICE IN A WAY
THAT MOST AMERICANS MAY NOT EVEN APPRECIATE.
THEY, OF COURSE, LOST ONE OF THEIR SONS, ROBERT KELLY, A
MARINE, IN ACTION IN AFGHANISTAN.
THEY KNOW THE MEANING OF SACRIFICE.
I THINK THE REAL REASON THAT JOHN DECIDED TO DO THIS JOB AND
SAY YES TO THE PRESIDENT WHEN HE CALLED WAS BECAUSE HE REALLY
CARES ABOUT PUBLIC SERVICE. NOT EVEN THE GREATEST AMERICAN
CAN BRING ORDER AND DISCIPLINE WHEN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND HAS
BEEN SO DISRUPTED BY A COMMANDER IN CHIEF WHO LIKES CHAOS, WHO
SORT OFFEL ARE YISHTS THE DIS-- OF RELISHES THE DISORDER OF THE
WHITE HOUSE. I THINK JOHN WILL HAVE TO SET
DOWN KEY MARKERS TO THE PRESIDENT AND SAY, IF I'M GOING
TO RUN THIS PLACE, I'VE GOT TO BE IN CHARGE.
>> SWITCHING GEARS, I'D LIKE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE LATEST FROM
NORTH KOREA. HERE'S THE DEAL -- I MEAN, LOOK
AT THIS VIDEO HERE. IT SHOWS, PURPORTS TO SHOW THE
LATEST MISSILE LAUNCH FROM THE ROGUE NATION, THOUGH NBC HAS YET
TO INDEPENDENTLY VERIFY THE VIDEO.
LOCAL BROADCASTERS SAY THIS IS BELIEVED TO BE ANOTHER
INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILE LAUNCH.
BASED ON ITS TRAJECTORY AND TIME IN FLIGHT, ANALYSTS BELIEVE THE
NORTH KOREANS HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF REACHING THE
INTERIOR U.S., INCLUDING MAJOR U.S. CITIES.
THAT SAID, HOW BIG OF A DEVELOPMENT IS THIS?
AND DO YOU EXPECT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO REACT TO IT?
>> THIS IS A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE UNTIL NOW
NORTH KOREA ONLY HAD ENOUGH RANGE ON THEIR MISSILES TO
POTENTIALLY HIT MAYBE THE OUTER ISLANDS OF ALASKA, MAYBE HAWAII.
WITH THE RANGE OF THIS, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY HIT THE
ENTIRETY OF THE UNITED STATES. DON'T FORGET THERE WAS THIS
CRITICAL INTELLIGENCE AGREEMENT THAT THEY HAVE 10 TO 20 BOMBS'
WORTH OF MATERIAL, COULD MINIATURIZE ON AND PUT IT ATOP
AN ICBM. WE HAVE TO TAKE MILITARY
DIPLOMACY AND PREPARE TO SHOOT DOWN ANY MISSILE THAT COMES OUR
WAY. >> I WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE.
ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI WENT AFTER REINCE PRIEBUS AND STEVE BANNON
IN THE NEW YORK MAGAZINE ARTICLE.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT STEVE BANNON STAYS AT THE WHITE HOUSE?
>> I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK JOHN KELLY WILL IMPOSE ORDER.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> STEVE BANNON AND JOHN KELLY