LEFT IN THE WAKE.
THANK YOU FOR GETTING UP WEIGHT"
TOO EARLY" ON THIS MONDAY
MORNING.
"MORNING JOE" STARTS NOW.
>> IOWA WE HAVE SEEN IN THE
VICINITY WE CAN CONCLUDE RUSSIA
IS WORSE THAN ISIS IN THE SCALE
AND RUTHLESSNESS OF THE CRIMES
COMMITTED.
WE WILL BE COLLECTING ALL OF THE
EVIDENCE.
WE WILL BE WORKING WITH ALL
INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTIONS
RELEVANT TO MAKE -- BRING -- TO
IDENTIFY AND BRING THOSE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE CRIMES TO
ACCOUNT.
>> INTERNATIONAL OUTRAGE AND
DISGUST.
THE KREMLIN IS NOW ACCUSED OF
MASSACRING CIVILIANS AS RUSSIAN
FORCES RETREATED FROM THE
SUBURBS OF UKRAINE'S CAPITAL.
IMAGES OF BODIES IN SHALLOW
GRAVES AND STREWN THROUGHOUT THE
CITY, EVIDENCE OF TORTURES AND
KILLINGS AT CLOSE RANGE, WAR
CRIMES.
MOSCOW CLAIMS IT WAS ALL STAGED.
UKRAINE'S PRESIDENT CALLS IT
GENOCIDE.
THIS MORNING REACTION FROM
AROUND THE GLOBE AS WE DEBUT OUR
9:00 A.M. HOUR.
WE WILL TALK TO UKRAINE'S CHIEF
PROSECUTOR WHO SAYS HER TEAM HAS
IDENTIFIED HUNDREDS OF SUSPECTS
AND IS PURSUING THOUSANDS OF WAR
CRIMES CASES AGAINST RUSSIA.
WHAT THIS ALL MEANS FOR VLADIMIR
PUTIN AND WHAT HIS RETREAT FROM
KYIV SAYS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF
THE WAR.
>>> PLUS, THE LATEST HEADLINES
FROM WASHINGTON.
THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE JOINS US
AHEAD OF A BIG DAY FOR PRESIDENT
BIDEN'S SUPREME COURT NOMINEE.
PRESIDENT OBAMA IS SET TO RETURN
TO THE WHITE HOUSE THIS WEEK,
AND DONALD TRUMP GETS BEHIND A
POLITICAL HAS-BEEN HOPING TO
MAKE A RETURN TO POLITICS.
GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO
"MORNING JOE."
IT IS MONDAY, APRIL 4th.
>> POLITICAL -- THAT'S GREAT,
GREAT.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
>> WILLIE, "NEW YORK POST"
HEADLINE.
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS WHAT
THE WORLD WAS TALKING ABOUT
YESTERDAY.
WHEN YOU -- WHEN YOU THINK THAT
IT CAN'T GET WORSE, THE MASS
CRIMES BY VLADIMIR PUTIN, AND
NOW THE RUSSIAN TROOPS WE SEE
OBVIOUSLY KICK IN.
>> YEAH, THE FRONT PAGES OF
ALMOST EVERY INTERNATIONAL
NEWSPAPER SHOWED DEAD BODIES,
SHALLOW GRAVES, MASS GRAVES,
HORRIFIC IMAGES COMING OUT OF
WHAT RUSSIAN FORCES LEFT BEHIND
AFTER PULLING BACK FROM THE
UKRAINIAN CAPITAL OF KYIV.
WE SHOULD WARN YOU THIS MORNING
THE IMAGES REALLY ARE DISTURBING
ADD QUITE GRAPHIC.
PICTURES AND VIDEOS FROM THE
TOWN OF BUCHA NORTHWEST OF KYIV
SHOW WIDESPREAD DEVASTATION WITH
DOZENS OF BODIES LYING SCATTERED
AROUND THE CITY.
SOME OF THE VICTIMS HAD HANDS
TIED HELP BIND HAIR BACKS.
OTHERS REPORTINGLY HAD
CLOSE-RANGE GUNSHOT WOUNDS AND
SIGNS OF TORTURES.
RESIDENTS SAY THEY WOULD GO FROM
BUILDING TO BUILD, CHECK THEIR
PHONES FOR ANTI-RUSSIAN ACTIVITY
BEFORE TAKING THEM AWAY OR
SHOOTING THEM ON THE SPOT.
HERE IS A LISTEN TO WHAT SOME
PEOPLE THERE HAD TO SAY.
>> Translator: THOSE PEOPLE WERE
JUST WALKING AND THEY SHOT THEM
WITHOUT ANY REASON.
BANG.
IN THE NEXT NEIGHBORHOODS, IT
WAS EVEN WORSE.
THEY WOULD SHOOT WITHOUT ASKING
ANY QUESTIONS.
>> Translator: HE WENT TO GET
SOME FOOD WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN
THE RUSSIANS STARTED SHOOTING.
THEY HIT HIM A BIT ABOVE THE
HILL, CRUSHING THE BONE AND HE
FELL DOWN.
THE SHOOTER SHOUTED, DON'T
SCREAM OR I WILL SHOOT AND THEY
TURNED AWAY.
THEN THEY SHOT OFF HIS LEFT LEG
COMPLETELY.
THEN THEY SHOT HIM ALL OVER THE
CHEST.
>> GOSH.
UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR
ZELENSKYY IS CALLING THE CITY IN
BUCHA GENOCIDE DESCRIBING IT AS
SCENES FROM A HORROR MOVIE.
ABOUT 270 WERE BURIED IN MASS
GRAVES, ABOUT 40 BODIES LEFT IN
THE STREETS.
UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS SAY ABOUT
400 BODIES HAVE BEEN FOUND IN
KYIV AND SURROUNDING AREAS.
INTERNATIONAL INDEPENDENT
REPORTERS ARE JUST GETTING INTO
THE CITY OF BUCHA INCLUDING NBC
NEWS TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS
THERE.
THEY SAY THEY HAVE NO WAY OF
KNOWING HOW MANY WERE KILLED
THERE.
PEOPLE WERE SAYING A COUPLE OF
WEEKS AGO, I DON'T KNOW IF WE
WANT TO USE THE TERM WAR CRIMES,
PRESIDENT BIDEN CALLED HIM A
BUTCHER.
WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED TO SEE?
>> WE CAN SAY THIS, WE CAN TALK
ABOUT VLADIMIR PUTIN, BUT THIS
IS WHAT RUSSIA DOES.
THIS IS WHAT RUSSIAN SOLDIERS
DO.
THIS IS WHAT THEY DID IN
UKRAINE, WHAT THEY DID IN
ALEPPO, WHAT THEY DID IN GROZNY.
THIS IS WHAT THEY DID IN POLAND
IN WORLD WAR II.
THIS IS WHAT THEY DO.
IT IS GHASTLY.
BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER HERE WE
WILL BE GETTING TO CLINT WATTS
AT THE BIG BOARD IN A FEW
SECONDS ABOUT WHERE IT IS GOING.
HISTORICALLY THIS WILL BE
REMEMBERED AND THERE WILL BE
PEOPLE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
HISTORICALLY, THE HUGE STORY
THAT OVERLAYS THIS IS THE
HUMILIATING AND HISTORIC RETREAT
OF RUSSIAN TROOPS FROM THE
CAPITAL, WHICH WAS, OF COURSE,
PUTIN'S TOP PRIORITY.
IT IS INCREDIBLE HOW UKRAINE HAS
ROUTED THEM.
AS THEY MOVE BACK YOU CAN ONLY
SAY, THANK GOD THEY WERE AS
EFFECTIVE AS THEY WERE BECAUSE
HOW MUCH WORSE COULD THIS STORY
HAVE BEEN?
BUT THAT IS -- IF YOU JUST LOOK
AT THE BATTLEFIELD, IT IS
NOTHING SHORT OF SHOCKING.
>> IT IS REMARKABLE.
>> WHAT THE UKRAINIAN TROOPS
HAVE DONE.
JONATHAN LEMIRE, THIS IS
OBVIOUSLY PUSHING VLADIMIR PUTIN
CLOSER TO A SETTLEMENT.
WE ARE STILL A LONG WAY AWAY
FROM THERE.
IF YOU READ OUT, GET SOME
READ-OUTS FROM WHAT HAPPENED
SATURDAY YOU ACTUALLY HAD THE
UKRAINIANS TALKING ABOUT THE
POSSIBILITY OF PEACE, TALKING --
BUT THEN SUNDAY WE WAKE UP,
HORRIFIC NEWS.
YOU WROTE ABOUT HOW MUCH MORE
DIFFICULT THIS WAS GOING TO MAKE
IT FOR THE WORLD COMMUNITY TO
COME TO TERMS, NOT WITH THE
VLADIMIR PUTIN, AS BIDEN SAID,
WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN BEING A
BUTCHER, BEING A WAR CRIMINAL.
HOW EXACTLY DO YOU GET THIS GUY
BACK INTO THE G7, G8?
>> YEAH, THERE HAD BEEN SOME
TALK OF EVEN SOME MOMENTUM
TOWARDS A ZELENSKYY/PUTIN
SUMMIT.
THIS HAD BEEN ENOUGH PROGRESS,
THEY THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE
OFFING.
THAT NOW PROBABLY HAS CHANGED
AND IT WOULD BE THAT MUCH MORE
DIFFICULT.
WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS I TALKED
TO WONDER HOW COULD ZELENSKYY
NEGOTIATE THE ENDING OF THIS WAR
IF IT MEANT GIVING UP AN INCH OF
TERRITORY TO VLADIMIR PUTIN.
CONSIDERING THE AMOUNT OF
UKRAINIAN BLOOD BEING SHED, HOW
CAN YOU MAKE THAT DEAL?
WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS BELIEVE IT
REACHED AN INFLECTION POINT
WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE RUSSIAN
FORCES ARE MOVING AWAY FROM KYIV
LEAVING WAR CRIMES IN THEIR WAKE
AND FOCUSING ON THE DONBAS
REGION, WHERE THERE MAY BE
MONTHS POTENTIALLY, MAYBE A YEAR
OF VIOLENCE.
THAT'S THE FEELING.
>> IT IS EXTRAORDINARY, WILLIE.
WE HAVE BEEN KNOCKING THE U.S.
INTEL COMMUNITY FOR YEARS, AND
I, OF COURSE, A CHAMPION OF THE
INTEL COMMUNITY.
I KNOW THEY MAKE MISTAKES
BECAUSE IT IS A VERY COMPLEX
WORLD OUT THERE.
IT IS REMARKABLE IN THIS CASE
WHAT OUR INTEL COMMUNITY HAS
DONE.
I SAY THAT ONLY BECAUSE A WEEK
AGO I WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY AT
THE WHITE HOUSE, HIGH UP AT THE
WHITE HOUSE WHO SAID, YEAH,
PUTIN KNOWS, HE FINALLY KNOWS HE
SCREWED UP, AND THIS RETREAT,
THEY'RE -- THEY'RE GOING TO
RETREAT.
LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO RETREAT
NOW FROM KYIV AND START GOING
NORTH AND FOCUS ON THE DONBAS.
HERE WE GO FIVE DAYS LATER.
IT IS ACTUALLY -- IT IS ACTUALLY
CEMENTED, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE
DOING.
IT IS REALLY THOUGH REMARKABLE.
OUR INTEL COMMUNITY HAS BEEN
RIGHT TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, THE FRENCH DON'T LIKE
TO SAY THE U.S. IS RIGHT, BUT
EVEN THE FRENCH WERE SAYING, WE