BUT FLANGEFULLY NO ONE WAS KILLED.
KILLED. THE CITY BLAMES STRUCTURAL
PROBLEMS AND EXCESS WEIGHT.
AN INVESTIGATION IS UNDER WAY.
>> NOW OUR EXCLUSIVE LIVE
INTERVIEW WITH OMAROSA
MANIGAULT-NEWMAN WHO BECAME A
STAR CONTESTANT ON "CELEBRITY
APPRENTICE."
APPRENTICE." THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN CAME CALLING.
AFTER TRUMP’S ELECTION VICTORY,
SO DID THE WHITE HOUSE.
OMAROSA JOINED THE
ADMINISTRATION AS DIRECTOR OF
COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE WHITE
HOUSE OFFICE OF PUBLIC LIAISON
FOCUSING ON AFRICAN-AMERICAN
OUTREACH.
OUTREACH. SHE WAS FIRED BY CHIEF OF STAFF
JOHN KELLY LAST DECEMBER IN A
MEETING IN THE SITUATION ROOM
WHICH SHE RECORD.
NOW OMAROSA IS PROVIDING NBC
NEWS WITH A NEW EXCLUSIVE
EXCERPT OF A PHONE CALL SHE SAID
SHE RECEIVED FROM THE PRESIDENT
THE DAY AFTER HER FIRING.
>> OMAROSA?
>> OMAROSA? OMAROSA, WHAT’S GOING ON?
I JUST SAW ON THE NEWS THAT
YOU’RE THINKING ABOUT LEAVING.
WHAT HAPPENED?
WHAT HAPPENED? >> GENERAL KELLY -- GENERAL
KELLY CAME TO ME AND SAID YOU
GUYS WANTED MAKE HE TO LEAVE.
>> NO.
>> NO. NOBODY EVEN TOLD ME ABOUT IT.
THEY RUN RUN A BIG OPERATION.
I DIDN’T KNOW IT.
I DIDN’T KNOW THAT.
[ BLEEP ]
[ BLEEP ] I DON’T LOVE YOU LEAVING AT ALL.
>> OMAROSA OUT WITH A NEW BOOK,
"UNHINGED."
"UNHINGED." THE ADMINISTRATION HITTING BACK
SAYING THE BOOK IS RIDDLED WITH
LIES AND FALSE ACCUSATIONS.
THAT BRINGS US TO OMAROSA.
>> GOOD MORNING.
GLAD TO BE BACK AT THE "TODAY"
SO.
SO. >> I SHOULD LET YOU KNOW, I AM
RECORDING THE CONVERSATION.
>> VERY GOOD.
WHAT A COINCIDENCE.
>> YOU BROUGHT US A NEW TAPE,
THE DAY AFTER YOU WERE FIRED.
HE SAID HE DOESN’T KNOW ABOUT
IT, DOESN’T LIKE YOU LEAVING THE
WHITE HOUSE.
WHITE HOUSE. IS HE LYING IN THAT TAPE?
>> I DON’T KNOW.
ONE, WHY WAS I LOCKED IN THE
SITUATION ROOM FOR OM TWO HOURS.
I’LL GET TO THE SECOND PART.
LASTLY WHEN I ASKED TO LEAVE AND
ASKED FOR COUNSEL AND ASKED FOR
MY HUSBAND, WHY WAS I DENIED
FOUR TIMES.
FOUR TIMES. WHEN I INTO TO HIM, HE SAID HE
HAD NO IDEA.
THAT SHOULD BE ALARMING TO ANY
AMERICAN THAT THE PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES DOES NOT KNOW
WHAT IS HAPPENING WHEN THE
ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT WHO
HAS KNOWN HIM 15 YEARS.
>> YOU BROUGHT THE TAPE.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> I GUESS HE LYING.
YESTERDAY YOU TOLD CHUCK ON
"MEET THE PRESS" YOU THINK HE
DID KNOW YOU WERE FIRED.
THIS TAPE SHOWS HIM SAYING, I
DIDN’T KNOW YOU WERE FIRED.
>> YES.
>> YES. THERE WERE SUBSEQUENT CALLS
AFTER THAT.
AFTER THAT. THERE IS A COMPLETE ORGANIZATION
BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM.
HE PROBABLY INSTRUCTED GENERAL
KELLY TO DO IT SO HE COULD KEEP
HIS HANDS CLEAN WHEN HE INTO TO
ME.
ME. IS GENERAL KELLY RUNNING THIS
COUNTRY OR IS THE PRESIDENT
RUNNING THE COUNTRY.
HE SAID HE DIDN’T KNOW AND THEY
RUN A BIG OPERATION.
WHO IS THE "THEY."
>> THAT IS THE HONESTY ISSUE.
>> WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, SAVANNAH.
YOU CAN’T ASK A QUESTION AND
THEN ASK ANOTHER QUESTION
WITHOUT MY ANSWER.
YOU ASKED ME, DO YOU THINK HE
KNOWS.
KNOWS. >> YOU SAID YOU’RE NOT SURE.
>> THE ANSWER IS I’M NOT SURE.
THE OTHER PART, WHO IS RUNNING
THIS COUNTRY WHEN DONALD TRUMP
SAYS THEY RUN A BIG OPERATION.
WHO IS THE THEY?
IS GENERAL KELLY PUPPETING
DONALD TRUMP, TRULY RUNNING THE
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. >> DO YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT
LIES OFTEN?
LIES OFTEN? >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. IN FACT THERE WAS A REPORT --
>> HOW LONG HAVE YOU KNOWN THAT?
>> THERE WAS A REPORT THAT SAID
HE LIED ALMOST 4,000 LIES IN THE
LAST YEAR.
LAST YEAR. >> HAVE YOU KNOWN HE IS A LIAR,
AS YOU SAY.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> WHY DID YOU WORK FOR HIM?
>> SAVANNAH, SLOW DOWN.
I’M GOING TO ANSWER YOUR
QUESTION.
QUESTION. DON’T WORRY, I’M HERE.
I HAVE ALL THE TIME YOU NEED.
YOU DON’T HAVE TO ASK 10
QUESTIONS IN ONE SECOND.
IT’S OKAY.
IT’S OKAY. HE’S KNOWN TO BE AN ENTERTAINER,
EXAGGERATE.
EXAGGERATE. I NEVER EXPECTED HIM TO LIE TO
THE COUNTRY.
THE COUNTRY. I THOUGHT HE WOULD TAKE HIS OATH
OF OFFICE SERIOUSLY, THAT HE
WOULD BE COMMITTED TO ADVANCING
THE COUNTRY.
THE COUNTRY. INSTEAD, AS I STATED, THERE’S A
REPORT THAT SAYS HE’S SAID
SOMETHING LIKE 4,000 LIES SINCE
HE TOOK OFFICE.
HAS HE AN ISSUE WITH THE TRUTH
AND SOMETIMES HE BATTLES WITH
REALITY.
REALITY. >> LET’S TALK ABOUT THE TAPE OF
THE SITUATION ROOM.
>> LET’S TALK ABOUT IT.
>> YOU TALKED ABOUT IT.
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.
>> I DO.
>> I DO. >> JOHN KELLY INSIDE THE
SITUATION ROOM.
SITUATION ROOM. >> YES.
>> YES. >> BEFORE WE GET TO THE
SUBSTANCE OF IT, I’M JUST
CURIOUS, HOW DID YOU TAPE HIM?
THE SITUATION ROOM IS ONE OF THE
MOST SECURE PLACES IN THE WHITE
HOUSE.
HOUSE. YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO LEAVE YOUR
PHONE -- IT’S HONOR SYSTEM,
YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO LEAVE YOUR
PHONE AT THE DOOR.
HOW DID YOU DO IT?
>> I’LL LEAVE THAT TO YOUR
IMAGINATION.
IMAGINATION. >> WHY BE COY.
>> I’M NOT BEING COY.
I’M VERY CLEAR.
IT’S NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR FOUR MEN
TO TAKE A WOMAN INTO A ROOM,
LOCK THE DOOR AND TELL HER,
WAIT.
WAIT. TELL HER SHE CANNOT LEAVE.
IT’S ALSO NOT ACCEPTABLE TO
ALLOW HER TO HAVE HER LAWYER OR
COUNSEL.
COUNSEL. THE MOMENT I SAID I WOULD LIKE
TO LEAVE AND THEY SAID I CAN’T
GO, IT BECAME FALSE
IMPRISONMENT -- CALM DOWN.
THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS, I’M
GOING TO TELL YOU, THERE ARE
OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN
TREATED THIS WAY BY GENERAL
KELLY.
KELLY. THERE’S A LOT OF VERY CORRUPT
THINGS HAPPENING IN THE WHITE
HOUSE, AND I AM GOING TO BLOW
THE WHISTLE ON A LOT OF THIS.
>> ARE YOU CONCERNED AT ALL
ABOUT ANY LEGAL CONSEQUENCES FOR
TAPING IN THE SITUATION ROOM.
>> THEY SHOULD BE CONCERNED.
THEY SHOULD BE CONCERNED.
>> ARE YOU?
>> NO.
>> NO. I HAVE PROTECTIONS.
THE MOMENT I DECIDED TO BLOW THE
WHISTLE ON A LOT IN THE WHITE
HOUSE, THERE ARE PROTECTIONS
AFFORDED ME.
AFFORDED ME. LET’S BE CLEAR, THE THINGS
GENERAL KELLY IS DOING IN THE
WHITE HOUSE SHOULD CONCERN ALL
AMERICANS.
AMERICANS. >> YOU’VE HEARD I’M SURE NOW
WHAT SARAH SANDERS SAID ABOUT
HOW THIS TAPE HAPPENED.
WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT YOUR OWN
INTEGRITY IF YOU’RE GOING AROUND
TAPING GENERAL KELLY IN THE
SITUATION ROOM, WHICH IS SMOFD
TO BE SECURE, TAPING PRESIDENT
TRUMP AT LEAST ONCE, AND I THINK
YOU’VE INDICATED MORE THAN THAT.
WHY ARE YOU TAPING PEOPLE AND
WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT YOU?
>> DON’T YOU SEE THE IRONY OF
ALL PEOPLE, SARAH HUCKABEE
SANDERS SAYING THIS BOOK IS FULL
OF LIES WHEN SHE LIES TO THE
AMERICAN PUBLIC EVERY DAY.
>> TWO WRONGS DON’T MAKE A
RIGHT.
RIGHT. YOU’RE HERE SO I’M ASKING YOU.
>> SHE HAS A CREDIBILITY ISSUE.
EVERYTHING IN MY BOOK "UNHINGED"
EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN QUOTES IS
VERIFIABLE, DOCUMENTED.
VERIFIABLE, DOCUMENTED. >> WHY DID YOU FEEL YOU HAD TO
RECORD IT?
RECORD IT? >> THE FIRST THING THEY DO WHEN
SOMEONE LEAVES THE WHITE HOUSE,
THEY SAY THEY DON’T HAVE
CREDIBILITY, JUST A COFFEE
PERSON, DIDN’T HAVE ACCESS TO
THE PRESIDENT.
THE PRESIDENT. >> WHY DID YOU E--
>> IT’S AN HONOR TO WORK IN THE
WHITE HOUSE FOR THIS COUNTRY.
THIS WHITE HOUSE TURNED AROUND.
THE NORMAL PROCEDURES THAT GO
WITH THE DIGNITY OF SERVING IN
THE WHITE HOUSE.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT.
UNFORTUNATELY DONALD TRUMP IS
LETTING THE COUNTRY DOWN.
>> LET’S TALK ABOUT THE MOST
EXPLOSIVE ALLEGATIONS IN THE
BOOK.
BOOK. >> THERE’S A LOT.
>> YOU SAID YOU’D BE HERE A
WHILE SO WE’RE GOOD.
YOU TOLD CHUCK ON "MEET THE
PRESS" YESTERDAY YOU HAVE HEARD
A TAPE FROM THE APPRENTICE YEARS
IN WHICH DONALD TRUMP IS HEARD
USING THE N WORD.
>> MULTIPLE TIME.
>> YOU HEARD THE TAPE.
>> LET ME BE CLEAR.
I WASN’T THE ONE THAT BROKE THE
STORY ABOUT THE N WORD TAPE.
IT HAPPENED IN THE FALL DURING
THE CAMPAIGN.
THE CAMPAIGN. PEOPLE WERE CONTACTING ME,
REACHING OUT TO ME, TRYING TO
EXPOSE THIS.
EXPOSE THIS. IN FACT, THERE WAS A CONFERENCE
CALL AMONG CAMPAIGN WORKERS.
JASON MILLER, LYNNE PATTON, CIN
KATRINA PEARSON WHERE WE TALKED
ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF HIM
SAYING -- HIS OWN SPOKESPERSON
SAID I HAVE HEARD FROM A
CREDIBLE SOURCE HE SAID IT.
>> YOU ACTUALLY HEARD THE TAPE.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. WHAT’S YOUR QUESTION, SAVANNAH?
>> LET’S GET TO IT.
HOW LONG IS THIS TAPE?
>> THERE ARE MULTIPLE TAPES.
LET’S ESTABLISH THAT.
WHEN YOU READ MY BOOK TOMORROW,
WHICH IS AVAILABLE TOMORROW,
"UNHINGED" YOU’LL SEE THREE
DIFFERENT SOURCES THAT
CORROBORATE.
CORROBORATE. >> YOU SAID SINCE THE BOOK WAS
PUBLISHED YOU’VE HEARD IT.
HOW LONG IS THAT TAPE?
>> IT’S ABOUT THREE MINUTES.
>> IS IT AUDIO OR VIDEO.
>> AUDIO.
>> AUDIO. >> CAMERA OUTTAKES.
>> AUDIO.
>> AUDIO. >> WHAT IS THE CONTEXT?
>> YOU LIKE MOST AMERICANS LEARN
ABOUT --
ABOUT -- >> IT’S IN THE BOOK.
>> TALK ABOUT THE N WORD IS
THROUGHOUT THE BOOK.
HAVE YOU READ THE BOOK.
I ANSWERED THAT QUESTION,
SAVANNAH, WHAT’S THE NEXT
QUESTION?
QUESTION? >> THE PRESIDENT --
>> HE WAS TALKING ABOUT
AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE
PRODUCTION DURING THE COURSE OF
THE "APPRENTICE," WHICH IS
UNACCEPTABLE.
UNACCEPTABLE. HERE IS ONE THING, WHY DON’T WE
ASK DONALD TRUMP ONE THING,
DONALD J. TRUMP, HAVE YOU EVER
USED THE N WORD.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE THIS TAPE INTEND
TO RELEASE THIS TAPE.
THEY MAY BE USING IT FOR
POLITICAL MOTIVATION.
POLITICAL MOTIVATION. WHY DON’T WE ASK THE WHITE HOUSE
TO ISSUE A STATEMENT WHETHER OR
NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES --
STATES -- >> DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD
RELEASE IT.
RELEASE IT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF SARAH
SANDERS AS A SPOKESPERSON WOULD
ASK THE PRESIDENT HAVE YOU EVER
UTTERED THAT WORD ABOUT
AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND LET HIM
ANSWER.
ANSWER. >> YOU NOW SAY, NOT JUST BECAUSE
OF THIS TAPE BUT BECAUSE OF
OTHER MATTERS, THAT YOU BELIEVE
THE PRESIDENT TO BE A RACIST AND
A MISOGYNIST.
A MISOGYNIST. THIS IS A THEME OF YOUR BOOK.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> LET ME PLAY WHAT YOU SAID ON
ABC ABOUT WHETHER THE PRESIDENT
IS A RACIST THE DAY AFTER YOU
WERE FIRED.
WERE FIRED. >> SO YOU THINK THIS PRESIDENT
IS RACIST?
IS RACIST? >> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
I WOULD NEVER HAVE WORKED FOR
SOMEONE WHO I BELIEVED TO BE A
RACIST.
RACIST. DONALD TRUMP IS RACIAL BUT NOT A
RACIST.
RACIST. >> SO WHY DID YOU SAY THEN HE’S
NOT A RACIST AND NOW YOU SAY --
THAT WAS THE DAY AFTER YOU LEFT.
>> FIRST OF ALL, I HAD JUST COME
OUT OF -- THE DAY AFTER I LEFT.
I HAD JUST BEEN THREATENED BY
GENERAL KELLY WHO SAID THINGS
COULD GET UGLY FOR ME.
THERE WOULD BE DAMAGE TO MY
REPUTATION.
REPUTATION. I WAS BEING VERY CAREFUL.
I CAME OUT OF THE SITUATION
ROOM, I WAS TERRIFIED.
>> WHY --
>> WHY -- >> I’M ALMOST DONE.
I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WE WILL
BEING WHAT POWERFUL PEOPLE WOULD
DO TO ME AFTER THEY THREATENED
ME.
ME. CLEARLY RELEASED A STORY ABOUT
ME RUNNING AROUND THE WHITE
HOUSE WHICH WAS NOT TRUE.
I WAS CAUTIOUS ABOUT WHAT I
SAID, TO NOT UPSET FOLKS, WHO
HAD MY BELONGINGS.
IN FACT, SOMEONE TOLD ME IN THE
WHITE HOUSE THEY DESTROYED MY
PERSONAL EFFECTS.
PERSONAL EFFECTS. I WANT THEM BACK, SAVANNAH.
>> WHAT ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, YOU
SAID THAT YOU --
>> I’M ALMOST --
>> THE BOOK CALLED "UNHINGED."
>> YOU KNOW WE HAVE AN INTERVIEW
RIGHT AFTER THIS.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> I KNOW YOU WANT TO GO WITH
MORE TIME BUT I WILL ANSWER YOUR
LAST QUESTION AND YOU SEE THE
TIME.
TIME. >> WHAT TIME DO YOU NEED TO GO?
>> YOU KNOW IT’S A SEVEN MINUTE
INTERVIEW, NOW WE’RE AT TEN.
>> ARE WE?
I DON’T KNOW THE TIME.
IF YOU’VE GOT TO GO, YOU’VE GOT
TO GO.
TO GO. >> THE BOOK COMES OUT TOMORROW.
ALL OF THIS IS IN THE BOOK.
I HOPE YOUR VIEWERS WILL TAKE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO READ IT AND LEARN
ABOUT THE INCREDIBLE JOURNEY I
HAD FOR 15 YEARS WITH THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
EVERY SINGLE THING YOU HEARD ON
THAT TAPE IS IN THIS BOOK AND
MANY, MANY MORE.
>> THE BOOK IS CALLED
"UNHINGED," WHO DOES THAT REFER
TO?
TO? >> DONALD J. TRUMP.
>> DO YOU THINK HE’S MENTALLY
COMPETENT TO DO THE JOB.
>> NO, I DON’T THINK HE’S FIT.
AS WE HEARD ON THE RECORDING YOU
JUST PLAYEDED, HE DOESN’T KNOW
WHAT’S HAPPENING IN THE WHITE
HOUSE.
HOUSE. GENERAL KELLY, JOHN KELLY IS
RUNNING THE WHITE HOUSE AND
DONALD TRUMP HAS NO CLUE WHAT’S
GOING ON.
GOING ON. HE’S BEING PUPPETED.
THAT’S DANGEROUS TO THIS NATION.
>> OMAROSA, IF YOU’VE GOT TO GO,
I’VE GOT A STACK MORE QUESTIONS
RIGHT LOWER ON THE TO "TODAY"
SHOW.