valentine to to jeff apocalypse
the person who is a very powerful junior
of the democratic leadership council for newsweek we talk about the success of
the road in the show now jeff joins us
juggling of jerks
jeff off
you know are across a lot of what harold set there
uh... and i wanna get to that in a little bit but actually
have a small bone to pick with you as well about your first sent the son of a
small medium was large
use
here in the in the article liberal activist economic democratics' the
democratic party's nominating process
was assigned to some of the party with national elections
and you know then held for two years of services that
uh... this too
problems with that i think
first of all
i think normally speaking agree very right
uh... anything
free
two thousand three two thousand two
maybe even two thousand four
of course the right wing appeals to the right wing during the primaries
left-wing appeals
left wing in the neighboring come in the middle
but i feel that the senator has moved so much in the country that that formula
doesn't really apply anymore because
is the center of the country
between hillary clinton and dick cheney
was assigned the country somewhere
alcs
and if it is somewhere else this it does
the democrats really feel the more independent voters by going more towards
the republicans
i don't think that i have class today
we're already uh... he democratic
about that we're here for a career of a review for the helicopter to the federal
review for a family of four sinister
off by the hillary clinton and of the democratic candidates is quoted the most
of the right
book from the restaurant review strategy wheelwright
then what marketing direction
creating everybody for four of the following
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practice
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earned it is right down from support that is closer to movement group for the
rights of the kinds of people that
well katie that route
met roots type you would favor local bombard and edward
well they're that may change that a change in the coming couple of months
but that's the situation as it is now
concept that doesn't work for an interesting point
and i think there are a lot of different reasons for why hillary clinton's in the
anticipate this two theories on the net roots
uh... in my mind one is out there
there to the left of the party and so they try to drive the party to the lab
the you know some of the radical right rest drive the point to the right
uh... and sometimes they succeed but overall this will considerably is
mass of the electorate is in the middle
theory is that they're leading political indicate
where they go is where the rest of the party's going to go
is some period of time six months the year two years
whatever it is
so in that spirit and that's the theory i subscribe to
hillary clinton
enormous name recognition
and is the presumptive leader has been we've been told right from the dead
coaches the presumptive leader if she doesn't screw up
which she hasn't
issue will continue to be the leader
and what
and the rest of the country views hillary clinton not as we do is the most
right wing of the candidates but as the one that is most hated by the
republicans
so have
has less than perfect caught up to what the networks for blogs this error
figure the liquid which is
this is actually the most likely
candidate
pc once a month
everywhere i go up there but i guess volgograd your point but very if you
expect that they are an indicator of where things are going to be that uh...
whether it's a clip from a reader not appear to american further point out
uh...
that have led make sure that computer print obviously from the outside world
hardwired where decisions are going to be made
the next few months really preferable time and then the next
uh... and it broke bread through prometric tripura
europe where the parties reading three years out
that they would be relevant to the discussion of
no where we're going to be at uh... at election time
i think that all pro that uh... you know party
either party that's gonna happen you know they're going to be vying for the
better you know what the primary process is over
and i don't think that you could argue
uh... in in their work in the one year time frame anyways i think that group
that ruth tight
uh... represent the factor of the country
in that timeframe
garg
in let me tell you that this explain what i mean we're gonna jump bartlett
hero of the he actually interviewed how forging ahead of the d_l_c_ for newsweek
and we'll tell you about that article it's in and this week's newsweek
jeff you know
i would turn that question around at first light in the primary speedup the
process so what might normally take eight-year might only takes three months
was here into the primaries and embrace
paying attention
but i don't know russell oracle clinton question and you do you think of the
country in the silicon as the most right wing candidate
a bit among democrats
branson
they actually they mistakenly viewers the most left weekend
wallet or will
whether you know that for every american
in fact that there are people other than a year ago aretha
that uh... eh uh... blue drive a trojan horse you convert tend to be
alright rainbow
not cheating secret radical that you get from the power federal petra
arm
scottish three
and i'll take it out both kerrey and you don't even know about it from degree
have have their eye on what happens if they do
when the part where you can't really good bump tried to position themselves
uh... that
feel good to be a good uh... play for free freight for reaching out here from
and i think that i have to
improv with more trooper hillary because you look at what they should know that
one thing makes you want to be able to stand up there and
uh...
give people confidence but shoot me uh... well quit to defend the country
and protect the country
and that the republicans
well but you also feel good about the mediator of either of those candidates
in the third thing that they're going to pull the troops out right away
uh... from iraq uh... keys
enterprises in the body of work for you pull the troops out right away it for
you know is some of
timetable i think that a
where that lies in the center of the country certainly debatable and and i i
don't
and i know you know that debate and i honestly don't know where the center of
the country lies and i know as head of the country's for withdrawal
on something that time schedule i don't think that it's the media
not as far as the polls indicate my opinion might be different for that so
the polls indicate now but when you look at the polls
out way
in they asked why are you dissatisfied with congress not just democrats but
independence the centrist the middle of the country
iniki we are dissatisfied with the democrats 'cause they don't like the
republicans enough
soap body
i'm not sure that i agree with what harold the same in every neighborhood
au-pair
all part of at the
is that they're democrats or
pedigreed republicans enough about whether the fed performers japanese a
very very quiet i'd selecting different pulls us so that i don't have a problem
but i will email
and i will put up on our website is one of the concerts has this report
and so would have says we gotta go the center of the country and
ignore the left-wing inbuilt more towards republicans
his miss reading those polls and he's just reading the national
mood but i think the national mood is
for love of god will somebody please stand up against the sky who has who
according the latest on people
is at twenty four percent
why would anybody want to go toward the politicians of twenty four percent
yet equipped with a different way you could argue that the difference between
going toward the that are a little bit toward the right and going toward george
burns
ameripros difference
down with a different question darling do you think so what's the right in my
mouth former republican answerable to none wished him in office
i went through the study was kind of republican or what
uh... fighting that is a inside
you know that
that nineteen ninety congress in georgia's w_ bush between those ivy was
the center of the country
uh... but that can't be a center of the country
between hillary clinton detainees a set of the country those are two completely
different place in the political spectrum so which one is
yeah i i don't
particularly good answer for what we know what is
the center of the country in terms of timing i was born without them and three
or four lines and i think people
you look at the polls you know they they
built-in authority are important but don't takecare armed
uh... miraculous except it's not really clear if you point out that really clear
where the federal the country is going quote on
exactly what you do they they want to get out of iraq at the start of the
parole and think they want to be done with it
mark when you get down into the dirty details not clear where people said they
really want to pull out right away
uh... mahidol
central of yourself over you go ahead
failure defective wonderful rhetoric and capability year
um... did everything out of their uh... so happy about that but overall
instruction for them terribly clear
and terms of where the quote-unquote center bid for the country i think what
you think that people like hillary and even osvaldo they want to
uh... i mean i think
another great year
i think we're their advertising a different both loop and with the
republicans generally that they're going to put more emphasis
and their ability shadow and negotiate with uh... with any form the nuclear
bomb off uh... now coming out even more
army by paying if you want to talk to be ready and you want to reject the iranian
g
well into to meet with me
might help a lot like hillary is that uh... like that and uh... while she's
end
representations on that but we i mean no one had finishing tried to wrap obama
called buddies
and the other hand
of chico patrol indicated she's more
willing to negotiate with at the meeting more willing to use diplomacy of the
growth of diplomacy said the republicans
silt the recent others has one last question on the staff and and then we'll
of course is always on the radio out of time
or johnny depp bartlett he's did newsweek's exclusive interview with
harold ford junior
the head of the d_l_c_
uh... and what i am mail it is feeling is that the democratic leadership
council which i thought was a
very centrist when bill clinton wasn't office
is no longer
that centrist in i wouldn't go to them as a centrist point of view
and it report of your article in the world you know about me are portrait or
get out
haha i think he's right tomorrow with that
uh... what way barricaded for ignoring lady healthy right now that one
the candidate nominated they will no longer adorable allies
history
i think senator clinton he's right because that's where she
resides basically
uh... she's part of the d_l_c_
give us some of the other candidates i think he's going to be one that i don't
think there's much to be have there
they look at you mention tears of nine ninety seven countries in favor of
fighting terrorism of course
we all get a lot of fighters the russians have aniket republican answer
right now from guiliani romney and some others is let's go on offense and old
fighter on it
uh... latest poll on that and i can say that as well as
eight percent of americans
well i think the military targets are on is the right course
eight percent i'm going to roll back is not going towards the center of the
country
is going to reflect
fringe right that i was interested
right uh... democratic democratic
there's nobody had ever break everything exactly wrong though
rights house-to-house friends in in terms of
okay you know what we got to make sure that we are are present and militaristic
point of view on the democratic side
and know that uh... we stand for aggressive foreign policy
on down we've had more than enough progress in foreign policy where pig
say forget barricade report that work
we have to uh...
make clear that we're gonna take care of our military guys medicare before that i
don't think anybody
would argue with that i believe that we are going on the remarkable abandoned
the driver they're fighting over take good care of my picked up with more good
point
i think he also did mention the breath of diplomacy
uh...
here is not very good used for the one of the future but the process
uh... making sure that room intimidate treatment program for very hard to keep
lied about four days that user
you know anything you need a democrat who is who tried to women tend to be
having seasons the future of the political career implanted
and african american and and and if you cannot win
fifteen complete like that you can activate uh...
more conservative
delusions uh... you may be able to the democratic party
semi-pro with parallel to call and held his own sitcoms with a bit
congressman ford where we will pick on
often
is that he keeps buying the republican framing him in the first three things he
said you jeff or
and approved of arrogance that were strong militarily will
why do you have to prove that yuki should
it seems like you to be a group of republican philosophy you're not strong
weird approve them we cut taxes man i got him and how we got cut taxes without
and where the problem world have mainstream allies
you're right he's running in the seventy two to run the south and i understand
that for the flip side of that is
i'm appalled that people running for senate there were democrats is only one
a loss
so i'm not sure very very very good that you would have wanted to take the more
liberal positions out there
let me know the difference and this is what i'd always tried at least it's not
more liberal positions on that they were more liberal positions
on the table stronger positions will we say will you know
where the democrats say
look this is our position so we're not gonna move off of it
and his and it's not week to think that we should do diplomacy mildly
conventional treatments
and it's not we can stand up for the u_s_ constitution
and fight for those
and i i i think that's the underlying problem of the d_l_c_ these days