Hi.
I'm Pedro from Coffee Parts
And today
we're looking at single dose coffee grinders.
Now,
These grinders have become legendary in the market.
Then Niche Zero has cult status
and Eureka, Single Dose.
Well, Eureka it`s just a brand that's super recognize.
So let's look at what is a Single Dose grinder.
Do you need it and what are the pros and cons are of each one
The Niche Zero
now,
There's a lot of videos online diving into this machine.
It has a serious cult following and was the first single dose
home grinder launch in mass to the market.
I originally ordered one from Indiegogo and by coincidence,
they were actually made at a friend's factory in China.
And when I was in Hong Kong in 2019, I visited Daniel.
Now, he owned the factory.
It was nice to get the background on the stories
and kind of made me feel good about owning a Niche.
The machine grew in popularity.
It was all over the world and it was an instant success.
As you can see from all the videos online.
They did a lot of smart things.
They looked at the issues of grinders at the time, retention
speed, etc. And looked at how to solve them.
They didn't engineer their own blades
They reached out to Mazzer and took the proven Mazzer Kony, conical blade
and put into the grinder,
and it really did work.
We were one of the first in Australia to be selling the Niche
and we went on to sell an insane amount of units.
So,
The Niche has been part of our story for quite a while.
With the Eureka.
The Eureka has a place in my heart.
In 2015 we helped launch Eureka Home Line
In Australia at the Coffee Experience show at Moore Park
Later on in 2019, I was at Milan at the Host Trade Show where they launched
the current range, the Specialita, XL and the Single Dose.
So we know these machines well and we sell a lot of them.
Now,
looking at both in many ways the single does does feel inspired
by the Niche.
They look similar and they did come out afeter the Niche
paved the way and opened the door.
The question is single dose is a better than grinder on demand.
Do you need it?
And what does workflow look like?
The answer to that depends.
Technically speaking, the single dose grinders hold no retention.
What you grind in comes out and what that means is
there is not only better for the coffee that you don't have effectively pre-ground
coffee in there, but it's also easiest to dial between blends.
Just say if you're using a blend and you want to do a single origin,
or if you're doing a blend and a decaf,
or you want to do something like an espresso and then a filter coffee,
being able to dial in and change it really does
make it easier on another grind, like a grind on demand grinding
You got beans in that chamber so you can only dialing in so much
and you have to always grind a bit of coffee out to get to that adjustment.
What that also means is effectively there's no coffee wastage, which is cool,
and because you're not storing coffee in the hopper and you're generally
storing it in little canisters, that air tight
vacuum sealed, the coffee lasts longer and it is better for the coffee.
So overall you're going to get a better coffee experience
but the workflow is longer.
You generally using the dosing cup, weighing coffee in,
grinding it through and that should be the same amount of coffee coming out
and then you
have put it into a portafilter or running your filter coffee from there.
We'll show that workflow in a second.
When with the grind on demand grinder, it is just putting in your portafilter
It's grinding to a time that you specified, so a lot easier to do.
There might be some retention in some cases.
People run their single button as a little purge to give you the retention.
It is it easy workflow, something maybe in the morning
when you don't want to be too fast and easy grinder to live with.
But these grinders do perform better
And if you're looking for the best results,
would you probably watching this video,
wanting these results then these are the grinders to get
when it comes to the Niche or the Eureka.
They've got like different approaches.
The Niche have run conical blades that have source the blades from the Mazzer Kony
which are a proven blade
with Eureka's case, they are going for a flat blade
65 mill diamond cut and the and design.
What that also means is in the Eureka's case,
there aren't after market blades for this grinder yet
there are SSP blades but they're 64 mill so they're not going to fit.
So as it is you're going to have to use the Eureka blades.
But that's not a bad thing because they've done a good job with the blades.
The question is what's better conical or flat?
And that's a whole rabbit hole to dive down with so many different opinions
in many senses.
For filter coffee, it is well-established that people prefer flat blades
and with conical blades they are great on the espresso,
but it does come down to the RPM of the motor and the speed.
That's why when you get the hand grinders like the comandante to the Timemore X,
they're conical.
And when you're running them very slowly, they perform awesome result.
But that's a whole different video and a whole different rabbit hole.
Effectively, these grinders do perform well for filter and espresso,
and we're just talking about minor details
when it comes to dialing in, the Niche
is easier.
You can see the markings here from pretty much any angle
and you can adjust from espresso to filter with one easy turn.
And it's just a super easy motion because you don't have beans in there
is really easy and moving the blades we don't have the resistance of the beans,
so you don't have to grind any coffee from going to say, filter
to espresso on grinders that are grind on demand
You do have to grind it out.
So that's a super easy way to dialing in and the workflow is easy.
There's a little switch here that cuts off the motor if the lid is open,
open the lid, pour you beans in closer and it's grinding.
with the Eureka.
It's a little harder to dialing in
You've got a small knob here and in espresso
to dialing small nuances because they're both stepless grinders.
But to dial in small nuances, it's really easy.
But if you want to go from a espresso to filter,
it tends to be about a two and a half turn and you do get lost where you're at.
And if you get lost, you basically have to bring it back to zero
and then go from there.
So you can you're about two and a half turns.
So the workflow or the user experience
from dialing it in isn't as easy as a Niche
Performance wise.
Their are own par, the both quiet,
the Eureka is a little bit faster, but it's also a little bit messier.
So I feel like there's pros and cons
to each one and working out which one's best is kind of hard.
The Niche definitely has a cult following, so there's probably being comments
below saying Niche, Niche, Niche, but realistically
they've both taken a different approach to very similar solution.
So let's grind out some coffee and see what the workflow is like
on both of these machines.
Firstly, within these,
grab your dosing cup
and we just want to
make sure it's at zero
we're going to grind out 20 grams of coffee
20 grams.
So effectively make sure you machine's off
putting the beans lock it down.
We're already in the espresso range
and run it
it is quite cool that it's got a clear hopper
and you can see go through this is one of the newer models
with the flow control disc which also reduces the popcorning
and there you have it theoretically yeah we've got spot on 20 grams out
so what you put in you grind out super easy
to adjust and that's what you get from a grind on demand grinder.
If we're doing espresso, we obviously put it into our portafilter
and turn it over
With the Eureka we got the bellows here.
So we can press it out to make sure that there's nothing in the chamber.
As this cup
is empty, we'll just set it to zero once again.
We'll do 20 grams just to be consistent
we got 20 grams
In this case we close the chute of the hopper,
putting the coffee
the dosing cup back down there.
We should be pretty dialed in and turn it on.
Open at a.
The Eureka is a little bit messier.
You can counteract that
by spraying a touch of water in there and you'd get a little less mess.
But in saying that most grinders will have a little bit of mess
and let`s weigh that out once again spot on 20
so in this case of both being spot on you grind in you got out
sometimes you can still get us the smallest of variances
but it is next to nil
Grinding both of them out
they are quite quiet for grinders both at around the 60 decibels.
So on the volume side they are nice and probably at the point
now where grinders aren't going to get much quieter
there's still beans that are getting chopped up and bounce around
when it comes to support it's a big thing
the Niche
is now direct to consumer so you don't have
a local network of dealers that are there to support you and to fix
If something were to go wrong. In saying that they have been a stable machine
with the Eureka, the Eureka has a global network
of distributors and retailers, which makes it a lot easier
should anything go wrong or you just want something like a spare part.
Once again, they've both been super stable,
so that might not affect your decision on which one to buy.
The Niche is kind of hard to get.
They seem to always be sold out, and a lot of people are buying them
and then reselling them at an arbitrage at a higher price.
And the prices that they're going for now make me question
whether I would buy a Niche and I do own a Niche
I just don't know about the resale prices that are going on
if they still hold value at that level.
The Eureka a lot easier to get.
You know, they come in three colors black, white and chrome,
and the black does come in the mat with the Niche, comes in white and black.
It's a glossy black.
And you're finding a lot of people are wanting the matte look.
So it really does come down to personal preference.
The Eureka is made in Italy, the Niche made in China,
but they are both well built with the Eureka just slightly more solid.
They both grind on demand, they both consistent.
The Niche is gone conical the Eureka has gone flat, but it becomes much of a match.
This it's hard to pick, definitely easier to dialing in the Niche
So I'm curious, which one do you have?
Which one do you prefer?
Do you like grind on demand or do you prefer a single dose like these?
Just let me know in the comments below.
I've got a feeling that might be a bit of a Niche
fan club out there,
so it might be very pro Niche, but I'm still curious to know the feedback.
If you want to look a bit more into the differences between
grind on demand and single dose grinders, we have done a video.
If you click here, you can watch that
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