MY FIRST GUEST IS THE CO-ANCHOR OF "CBS THIS MORNING," WHICH IS
CELEBRATING ITS FIVE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY; THE HOST OF
"CHARLIE ROSE," WHICH IS CELEBRATING 25 YEARS; AND A
CORRESPONDENT TO "60 MINUTES," WHICH HAS BEEN ON THE AIR SINCE
THE DAWN OF MANKIND.
PLEASE WELCOME, CHARLIE ROSE!
♪ ♪ ♪ ( APPLAUSE )
NOW, OFFICIALLY, I'M GOING TO LET THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG HERE,
THIS IS OUR FRIDAY SHOW.
>> RIGHT.
>> Stephen: BUT WE TAPE THIS FRIDAY SHOW ON THURSDAY, SO
TONIGHT IS OFFICIALLY YOUR BIRTHDAY.
HAPPY 75th BIRTHDAY.
>> JANUARY 5!
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
>> Stephen: IT SHOULD BE A NATIONAL HOLIDAY, CHARLIE ROSE!
>> I'M FOR THAT.
>> Stephen: BUT IF IT WAS A NATIONAL HOLIDAY, YOU WOULDN'T
TAKE IT OFF BECAUSE YOU NEVER STOP WORKING.
YOU WORK HARDER THAN ANYBODY I KNOW.
>> I WORK HARD BECAUSE I LOVE WHAT I DO.
WELL, SO DO YOU.
>> Stephen: I DO ENJOY WHAT I DO BUT I ONLY DO ONE SHOW AT A
TIME.
>> MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, REDUCE IT DOWN TO ONE SHOW.
>> Stephen: DID YOU REALLY GROW UP WORKING AT A GENERAL
STORE?
>> I DID.
MY PARENTS IN HENDERSON, MOTHER CAROLINA, HAD A GENERAL STORE.
>> Stephen: THAT'S THE MOST AMERICAN THING YOU COULD HAVE,
RIGHT?
>> IT IS.
>> Stephen: EITHER THAT OR A BALD EAGLE FACTORY.
>> IT'S NOT ONLY THAT.
MY FATHER BELIEVED IN THE WORK ETHIC, SO HE MADE ME START
WORKING WHEN I WAS ABOUT SIX YEARS OLD.
I'D GET UP IN THE MORNING AND GO DOWN AND PUT STUFF IN THE FRONT
OF STORE.
>> Stephen: LIKE WHAT?
>> LIKE FEED AND SEED, THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> Stephen: WOW.
>> IT WAS GREAT.
>> Stephen: YOU'RE A STORYBOOK.
>> A STORIED LIFE.
>> Stephen: I ASSUME YOU'RE NOT HAVING A HUGE PARTY TONIGHT.
>> OH, NO!
>> Stephen: I WOULD HAVE BEEN INVITED.
>> YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN.
THE INVITATION DIDN'T GET TO YOU?
THE INTERNET DOES IT EVERY TIME.
>> Stephen: IT'S THE RUSSIANS!
DAMN YOU PUTIN, DAMN YOU!
>> AND YOU WOULD HAVE LOVED IT.
>> Stephen: I CAN COME WITH YOU?
>> YES!
>> Stephen: DO YOU HAVE BIG PLANS TONIGHT?
YOU HAD BIG PLANS THIS MORNING.
THIS MORNING, I NOTICED ON "CBS THIS MORNING,"--
>> THIS MORNING, YEAH.
>> Stephen: WHEN I SAID IS CELEBRATING FIVE YEARS.
CONGRATULATIONS.
>> OH, BOY.
A GREAT RUN.
MY COANCHORS, NORAH O'DONNELL, GAYLE KING.
>> Stephen: BOTH FRIENDS OF THE SHOW.
YOU GOT A VERY SPECIAL LITTLE SONG SUNG TO YOU BY RITA MORENO
♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
♪ HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHARLIE ROSE-- HEY, YOU'RE TOO COOPERATIVE.
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: CONGRATULATIONS.
I GOTTA SAY, THOUGH, YOU REALLY, REALLY SEEMED TO KNOW YOUR WAY
AROUND A LAP DANCE, CHARLIE ROSE.
>> OH, YES.
LAP DANCING WITH AN 85-YEAR-OLD WHO IS BRILLIANT, A GREAT SINGER
AND REMARKABLE WOMAN,.
>> Stephen: SHE'S AN EMMY-GRAMMY,-OSCAR-TONY.
>> SHE AS ALL THAT.
>> Stephen: YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT?
>> NO.
>> Stephen: I JUST INFORMED CHARLIE ROSE ABOUT SOMETHING.
HOW WAS YOUR 2016?
>> IT WAS A GOOD YEAR.
YOU MENTIONED "CBS THIS MORNING."
WE HAD A REALLY GOOD YEAR, GAINING AUDIENCE.
YOUR GUY WAS THE CREATOR OF "CBS THIS MORNING."
>> Stephen: MY EXECUTIVE PRODUCER IS THE CREATOR OF "CBS
THIS MORNING."
>> BUT IT'S BEEN A GRET YEAR.
WE'RE UP 42% FROM THE TIME WE BEGAN.
WE'RE HOPING IT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER EVERY DAY.
>> Stephen: I'LL HAVE TO TRY THAT-- FOR THE EVERY DAY.
THAT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA.
HOW COME YOU DON'T HAVE US DO THAT OVER HERE, CHRIS.
>> HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO COME OVER HERE AND MAKE YOU BETTER.
THAT'S WHAT HE SAID TO ME WHEN HE LEFT.
>> Stephen: HE KEEPS TRYING TO PUT ME IN TIGHTS.
HE WANTS TO DRESS ME UP THE WAY YOU DRESS UP.
THIS IS YOU-- THIS IS YOU WITH NORAH AND GAYLE.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: WEARING TENNIS SHOES AND VERSACE PANTS.
>> I SAY IF IT MAKES YOU COMFORTABLE, DO IT.
THAT'S MY MOTTO.
IF IT MAKES YOU COMFORTABLE, DO IT.
>> Stephen: THAT SEEMS TO WORK FOR YOU.
>> IT DID.
>> Stephen: THOUGH YOU-- THOUGH YOU ARE 75.
>> YES, SIR.
AND I FEEL BETTER THAN I'VE EVER FELT IN MY LIFE.
>> Stephen: REALLY?
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: I'M 52.
I SHOULD LOOK FORWARD TO 75?
>> LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
I'M TRYING TO BE-- >> Stephen: I NEVER HAD THIS
BEFORE.
"TOWN&COUNTRY" JUST NAMED YOU ONE OF THE TOP BACHELORS OF
2017.
>> YES!
>> Stephen: UH-HUH YEAH, NO.
>> IT'S INEXPLICABLE TO ME.
>> Stephen: ARE YOU SEXIER IN THE TOWN OR THE COUNTRY?
( LAUGHTER ) CHARLIE.
>> COUNTRY.
COUNTRY.
>> Stephen: COUNTRY BOY.
>> OH, YEAH, COUNTRY BOY.
>> Stephen: ALL RIGHT, WE'RE TWO WEEKS AWAY FROM THE
INAUGURATION OF DONALD TRUMP.
YOU'RE FAMOUSLY CURIOUS ABOUT EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD.
WHAT ARE YOU MOST CURIOUS ABOUT IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION?
WHAT INTERESTS YOU MOST ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN?
>> I JUST THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHEN HE GOES
TO OFFICE EYE MEAN, EVERY PRESIDENT WILL TELL YOU THERE'S
NOTHING THAT REALLY PREPARES YOU, AND ONCE YOU'RE IN THE OVAL
OFFICE, IT'S A SOBERING EXPERIENCE KNOWING WHAT YOU'RE
RESPONSIBLE FOR, AND KNOWING THAT YOUR FINGER IS ON THE
NUCLEAR BUTTON.
>> Stephen: WHAT'S IT LIKE TO BE IN HIS OFFICE?
BECAUSE AFTER THE ELECTION, TRUMP-- PRESIDENT-ELECT--
FAMOUSLY CALLED ANCHORS, HEADS OF NEWS BUREAUS INTO HIS
CONFERENCE ROOM IN TRUMP TOWER AND DRESSED THEM DOWN.
WERE YOU THERE?
>> I WAS THERE.
>> Stephen: OKAY.
>> AN EXPERIENCE -- >> WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?
>> WELL.
>> Stephen: TO WATCH HIM CHEW OUT NEWS PEOPLE.
>> WELL, HE TALKED SPECIFICALLY, AS IT WAS REPORTED TO CNN OTHER
ANDS -- >> HOW ABOUT CBS?
DID HE TEAR INTO CBS?
>> HE DIDN'T SAY MUCH ABOUT CBS?
>> Stephen: HE DIDN'T?
>> HE DIDN'T.
>> Stephen: DOES HE LIKE US?
DOES HE LIKE US?
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHETHER THE PRESIDENT-ELECT LIKES THE
NETWORK THEY WORK FOR?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
>> Stephen: DID HE TALK ABOUT ME AT ALL?
>> NO, HE DIDN'T MENTION YOU, HE DID NOT.
BUT YOU WERE LIKE ME, YOU HAVEN'T HAD HIM ON YOUR PROGRAM.
>> Stephen: I HAVE.
>> YOU HAVEN'T HAD HIM ON YOUR PROGRAM?
>> IS HE A GOOD INTERVIEW.
>> Stephen: YOU INTERVIEWED HIM.
>> ON C.T.M. I HAVE.
AND I INTERVIEWED HIM WHEN I WAS ANCHORING THE NEWS FOR SCOTT
PELLEY.
>> Stephen: HE'S A VERY DIFFERENT PERSON FROM WHAT YOU
SEE ON TELEVISION.
>> WHAT WOULD YOU SAY?
>> Stephen: I WOULD SAY HE IS VERY DIFFERENT IN THAT HE'S
REASONABLE.
ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL I THINK HE MADE HIS BONES BY BEING
INFLAMMATORY.
BUT IN PERSON, HE'S JUST A GUY.
>> I HAVE A THEORY ABOUT THAT.
I THINK MAKING HIS BONES IS WHAT HE DECIDE HE HAD TO DO.
I THINK TO BE DISRUPTIVE WAS HIS CAMPAIGN STRATEGY BECAUSE HE
THOUGHT PEOPLE WERE TIRED OF WASHINGTON, WANTED TO SEE A
DIFFERENT KIND OF PERSON, AND HE DEFINED THAT AS BEING
DISRUPTIVE, SOMEWHAT -- >> CHAOTIC.
>> SOMEBODY CHAOTIC WHO WOULD DISRUPT AND BE CHAOTIC, AND, IN
FACT, WOULD CHALLENGE EVERYBODY, WOULD SHOW THAT HE HAD NO FEAR
OF ANYBODY IN ATTACKING THEM.
>> Stephen: DO YOU IMAGINE THAT WILL CONTINUE, THOUGH,
BECAUSE DON'T WE WANT STEADY LEADERSHIP IN THE WHITE HOUSE?
I MEAN, I HOPE IT DOESN'T, BECAUSE IT-- I THINK IT'S BEST
FOR EVERYONE, BETTER FOR WORLD PEACE AND BUSINESS IF YOU HAVE
SOME EXPECTATION OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW AND THE WAY
HE KEPT PEOPLE OFF THEIR BALANCE WAS NOT LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT
HE'D BE LIKE TOMORROW.
>> OBVIOUSLY, PREDICTABILITY, AND SOME SENSE OF CERTAINTY
ABOUT THE WAY THE OTHER PERSON WILL BEHAVE IS AN IMPORTANT PART
OF DIPLOMACY.
ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE ARE THOSE WHO ARGUE THAT A LITTLE
BIT OF UNPREDICTABILITY IS PROBABLY A GOOD THING SO THEY
DON'T TAKE YOU FOR GRANTED.
I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S GOING TO
WALK INTO THE OVAL OFFICE, AND NO MATTER WHAT HE IS HEARING OR
DOING TODAY, IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.
IT'S ALL ON HIS HANDS THEN, AND THE QUESTION IS-- NOBODY CAN DO
THIS JOB ALONE-- BUT IN THE END YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS
AS PRESIDENT.
>> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A COMMERCIAL BREAK RIGHT NOW.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE CHARLIE ROSE.