I am Tom Sturridge.
But you may know me as Dream of The Endless,
or, uh you know,
the Sandman.
And I'm Gwendoline Christie.
And I play the most badass, best and absolute coolest
version of Lucifer on Netflix.
How would you describe the dynamic
between Lucifer and Dream?
I think that there is a
deep, underlying respect between them,
a respect that
I would even go so far as to say
an affection.
These are two people who
are in not dissimilar positions of power;
the ruler of Hell,
the king of The Dreaming.
I think despite
this being a moment of conflict
there is an underlying
simmer of connection.
– You see, I got nothing.
– From me?
– Yep.
– Intentional.
[laughs]
As the challenged
I set the meter.
– The wings are taking up a lot of space.
– A lot of space, yeah.
– The wings are doing a lot.
– They're definitely telling me you're not human.
– You know, when we did this scene, I thought you hated me.
– Oh, why that choice?
– You just didn't.
You didn't give me a lot. You know?
[laughs]
I thought, "He he doesn't...
he doesn't like me. He doesn't want me doing this.
He wants someone else doing this."
But, you know, I fought my way through.
– Did you have any input into the hair?
Or was that,
was that your hair, for example?
– It was your hair.
– It was my hair! I wanted to get that out there?
– It had been gathered from a series of haircuts
that you've had over the last 12 years.
It's something, because this project...
there's been so many suggested ideas
for "The Sandman" to come to the screen.
So very early on, I put in the request
that whenever you had your haircut,
it be saved for Lucifer's wig.
I am a serpent,
horse biting.
I am a bird of prey,
snake-devouring-talons...
– Oh look.
– Oh God.
– Upsetting.
You don't look sorry.
– I don't.
– I do.
– No. [laughs]
– All that foundation, ruined.
Oh, my God.
Yours is perfect.
– I can see my reflection in your costume.
– Can you? – Now.
– It's wiped clean, the costume.
I was told it had to be if I was working with you.
[laughs]
– Oh my gosh!
What does it look like I'm doing there?
[laughs]
It's like an ode to constipation.
– You were constipated
That fall was real.
Because you needed to go
to the bathroom so badly
you broke out in that rash.
And I was pleased!
– A world, space floating.
Life...
– Into the countryside
– It feels outside Bristol.
– It was. It was.
And all that fresh air is aggravating me.
So much so that those wings are going.
Yep.
Climate change.
– Climate change.
Very hot topic.
– Look at me. I seem to like high temperatures.
This is very powerful.
– This is actually the darkest... [laughs]
very powerful.
Suddenly not seeing anything,
I see, feel everything.
– It was, I enjoyed it, though.
You know that Jamie (Childs) put on that lighting state,
and it did something weird. – Sexy state!
– Yeah. – Yeah.
You had to be contained.
– I did. It was...
– There was a lot of mopping around you.
[laughs]
–Wow.
Yeah I got sweaty. – There actually was
to keep the floor clean.
– It's true. Everytime somone steps.
People were wearing slippers.
– And that was you after that big night out.
– Yeah.
– Hey boss.
– There's a raven which was there, real raven.
– Yeah. It was a real raven.
It's a very, very good costume,
very realistic... raven.
I heard you got into a relationship with the raven after filming.
– Friendship.
– During filming which is problematic.
– Friendship...
he was also a fan of Tolstoy.
[laughs]
[bird chirps]
– Is this you with no makeup on?
– Yes.
– Thought so.
I'm really examining your face
because you have excellent bone structure.
– Thank you.
– Yeah.
– I'm assessing it
and seeing that your face is very symmetrical.
I'm furious
I'm furious about your complexion there.
That's what I was thinking when I was saying the lines.
How angry I was at how great your skin is.
That's why I look so perplexed.
– Listen
What did they say about Marlene Dietrich?
Seriously what did they say about Marlene Dietrich?
– Many things that perhaps might not be appropriate.
And scene.
[laughs] – Okay.
It certainly wasn't a challenge
to bring the real world experience to the scene,
because the second that we started shooting the very first scene,
Tom was clearly so invested in Dream
in a very real, emotional way.
I was apprehensive before this scene because it is huge in its concepts
You are in the castle of Lucifer,
the ruler of Hell, and you are there because he has something of yours.
If you try to put those ideas in your head, you get a bit lost.
But when I walked into that room and Gwendoline was standing there,
everything made complete sense and I knew exactly how I should feel.
And all we did was talk to each other.
It was a real pleasure,
mostly.
[ laughs]
– Ditto.
Be sure to watch "The Sandman" now streaming on Netflix.
– See you in Hell.
[laughs]