THESE ALL GO TO BENEFIT THE
POLICE UNION CHARITY.
OUR DEMOCRATS BUILDING -- OR
WILL IT BACKFIRE?
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THANKS FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.
>> THANKS, SHANNON.
>> Shannon: IF YOU HEARD
SENATOR MIKE LEE JUST A COUPLE
OF MINUTES AGO BLATANTLY
SHOOTING DOWN, MAKING NO
PRETENSE ABOUT IT THAT AS FAR AS
YOU CAN TELL THERE IS NO TALK OF
G.O.P. SENATORS COMING TOGETHER
TO GANG UP AND VOTE OUT THE
PRESIDENT SHOULD THE HOUSE
IMPEACHED HIM AND SEND IT OVER
TO THEM FOR A TRIAL.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT
CHATTER?
DO YOU THINK THERE'S NOTHING TO
IT?
>> I THINK IT MAY BE A DESPERATE
DESIRE ON THE PART OF SOME
DEMOCRATS AND COMMENTATORS TO
SEE IT HAPPEN, BUT I'VE BEEN
TALKING TO MEMBERS OF THE SENATE
AND I SEE ZERO CHANCE KNOWING
WHAT WE KNOW TODAY THAT THE
SENATE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO
PROVIDE 20 VOTES TO IMPEACH AND
REMOVE THE PRESIDENT FROM
OFFICE.
I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED ON THE
FINAL SENATE VOTE IF THERE
WEREN'T AS MANY DEMOCRATS OR
MORE DEMOCRATS VOTING IN SUPPORT
OF KEEPING THE PRESIDENT IN
OFFICE THAN THERE ARE VOTES TO
REMOVE IT.
>> Shannon: A LOT OF STEPS
BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THAT
SCENARIO.
IN THE MEANTIME, GOING OUT AND
TARGETING AND CAMPAIGNING IN
THESE PLACES WHERE SWING
DISTRICTS WHERE DEMOCRATS WON,
SEATS FORMERLY HELD BY
REPUBLICANS, THEY SAY THAT THE
WHITE HOUSE WANTS TO MAKE
VULNERABLE HOUSE DEMOCRATS PAY
FOR IMPEACHMENT.
DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS POINT
OUT, SUCCESSFULLY PROSECUTED A
SIMILAR CASE DURING HOUSE
G.O.P.-LED IMPEACHMENT OF
BILL CLINTON.
IT REPUBLICANS SUFFERED A NET
MIDTERM ELECTION, LOSING FIVE
CONGRESSIONAL SEATS.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE,
TWO OR THREE DOZEN PEOPLE WHO
ARE IN THIS PLACE.
HOW TOUGH A SPOT ARE THEY IN AS
THE SPEAKER MOVES FORWARD WITH
TALKS OF IMPEACHMENT?
>> THERE ARE 43 DEMOCRATS WHO
TODAY HOLD SEATS PREVIOUSLY HELD
BY REPUBLICANS.
31 OF THEM ARE IN DISTRICTS THAT
DONALD TRUMP CARRIED.
19 OF THEM IN DISTRICTS HE
CARRIED BY FOUR POINTS OR MORE.
IT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT THAT TEN OF
THOSE 19 DEMOCRATS IN THE MORE
HEAVILY TRUMPED DISTRICTS HAVE
YET TO ENDORSE THE INQUIRY.
THIS IS A USEFUL THING TO DO,
BUT REALLY WHAT IT ULTIMATELY
WILL MATTER IS HOW THIS ISSUE
GETS RESOLVED.
IT REPUBLICANS GET A LOT OF
TRACTION IN THE EARLY PART OF
IMPEACHMENT.
IT WAS WHEN THE ISSUE BASICALLY
HAVE BEEN PRETTY WELL
SUBSTANTIALLY RESOLVED.
BUT MIKE PENCE IS THE RIGHT
MESSENGER BECAUSE THE RIGHT
MESSAGE IN THESE DISTRICTS IS
ONE THAT'S NOT ANGRY AND HARSH,
BUT ONE THAT IS SORROWFUL AND
SORT OF SHAKING THEIR HEAD AT
ONE OF THE DEMOCRATS DOING TO
OUR COUNTRY AND MIKE PENCE IS
GOING TO BE PARTICULARLY I THINK
EFFECTIVE IN DELIVERING THAT
MESSAGE.
>> Shannon: DEMOCRATS OF
COURSE ARE HOPING NOT.
A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE
DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CAMPAIGN
COMMITTEE SAYS THIS.
"AT EVERY STOP MICE THAT MIGHT
VICE PRESIDENT PANS MAKES YOU
WILL HAVE TO ANSWER FOR HIS
GROWING ROLE IN ANY CANDIDATE
THAT IS STILL WILLING TO APPEAR
PUBLICLY WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT
PRINCIPAL MADE IT CLEAR THAT
THEY ACCEPT THE WHOLESALE
EAGERNESS TO BETRAY THE OFFICE
OF THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT.
YOUR RESPONSE?
>> LOOK, THIS IS KIND OF
OVER-THE-TOP RHETORIC THAT IS
GOING TO BLOW UP IN HER FACE.
THE PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO DO
WHAT?
BETRAY THE COUNTRY?
AS I RECALL WHAT THIS HAD TO DO
WITH, HE SAID WOULD YOU LOOK
INTO THE ISSUE OF THE SERVER --
WOULD YOU ALLOW MY GUYS, MEANING
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE
UNITED STATES AND THE VERY
RESPECTED INDEPENDENT
PROSECUTOR, U.S. ATTORNEY FROM
CONNECTICUT, JOHN DURHAM, TO
LOOK AT THE SERVER THAT THE
UKRAINIANS THAT WAS IN UKRAINE
THAT MAY HAVE BEEN USED BY THE
RUSSIANS TO STEAL
HILLARY CLINTON'S EMAILS.
AND WHAT YOU LOOK INTO THIS
FIGHT AND THINK YOU MIGHT DO
DEMOCRATS REALLY SAY THAT IT IS
A BETRAYAL OF OUR COUNTRY TO
RAISE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR
NOT JOE BIDEN WAS AWARE OF THE
APPARENT CONFLICT OF INTEREST
THAT EXISTED WHEN HE WENT TO
UKRAINE AND LECTURED THEM ON
CORRUPTION WHEN HIS SON WAS
SERVING ON THE BOARD OF A
SUSPECT STINKY --
>> Shannon: YOU KNOW WHAT THEY
SAY, THAT'S COMPLETELY DEBUNKED
AND THERE IS NO MERIT TO IT.
>> WAIT A MINUTE.
IT'S NOT DEBUNKED.
WE KNOW FOR A FACT CERTAIN THAT
HE WAS ON THE BOARD OF A COMPANY
THAT WAS STINKY AND WE KNOW THAT
THAT COMPANY WAS A SOURCE OF
CONCERN TO THE UKRAINIANS AND
THE ONLY REASON THEY HIRED
JOE BIDEN AND DEVON ARCHER --
EXCUSE ME, JOE BIDEN'S SON AND
DEVON ARCHER, A CLOSE COMPATRIOT
OF THE THEN SECRETARY OF STATE
JOHN KERRY, WAS SO THE NATURAL
GAS COMPANY SO THAT THEY HAD
JUICE WITH WASHINGTON, D.C.
WHAT BETTER WAY TO PROTECT
YOURSELF AND TO GET A GUIDE WAS
A LONGTIME CONFIDANT OF THE
SECRETARY OF STATE AND THE SON
OF THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES?
NEITHER OF WHOM HAD EXPERIENCE
IN UKRAINE, NEITHER OF THEM KNEW
ANYTHING ABOUT THE NATURAL GAS
BUSINESS.
I USED TO SPEND TIME IN THE
FORMER SOVIET UNION, I WAS IN
THE BOARD FOR INTERNATIONAL
BROADCASTING THAT OVERSAW RADIO
FREE EUROPE AND RADIO LIBERTY
AND IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE FALL
OF THE IRON CURTAIN, THIS IS
WHAT PEOPLE IN CENTRAL EUROPE
AND RUSSIA DID IN ORDER TO
PROTECT THEMSELVES.
THEY HIRED AMERICANS TO BE IN
VERY VISIBLE POSITIONS, JUST
LIKE PAUL MANAFORT WAS HIRED BY
SOME OF THE UKRAINIAN OLIGARCHS,
PUTIN'S MAN IN UKRAINE.
SO WE KNOW THIS.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAVE
BEEN ALLEGED THAT ARE NOT TRUE,
BUT WE DO KNOW FOR A FACT
CERTAIN THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES WENT OVER
THERE TO LECTURE UKRAINIANS ON
CORRUPTION WHILE HIS SON WAS ON
THE BOARD OF A COMPANY THAT WAS
SUSPECT.
>> Shannon: THERE ARE A
HANDFUL OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN
DIGGING INTO THIS AND IT SEEMS
LIKE A COUPLE OF OTHERS ARE
WAKING UP AND GETTING INTERESTED