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But with that said, let's just jump into it.
And the first thing we're gonna talk about today
is actually kind of a quick story.
I've had people asking me what do I think
about Dave Chappelle's new special, also specifically
the reactions from the likes of BuzzFeed News and Vice.
If you didn't see, Vice posted an article titled you
can definitely skip Dave Chappelle's new Netflix special.
BuzzFeed News put out Dave Chappelle
doesn't need to punch down.
And as far as my reaction, I think
this is some of the best promotion Dave Chappelle
could get for his new comedy special.
Personally, I watched his new special, as well as
the kind of secret epilogue, it's like 22 extra minutes.
And grated I didn't agree with everything
that Dave Chappelle said in that special,
but that's not why I watch comedy.
Right, I don't watch to go well that
seems safe and I agree with that.
I personally found the special and the extras really funny.
I think part of comedy is seeing the line,
fucking with the line, crossing the line,
commenting on people's reaction when you do so.
You know I think at a time where we've seen people
try to take down comedians for kind of jokes
that they're trying, I personally find it refreshing that
Dave Chappelle is giving us well crafted don't give a fuck.
Now with all of that said, I will
acknowledge here, I'm very biased on the topic.
Right when it comes to comedy and comedians,
like 99 out of 100 times, I'm probably going to defend
the comedian who's being attacked
for something they said during a set.
I personally see comedians, and it's probably
because it's my favorite style of comedian,
as line messer withers, which is a real thing
that I did not just make up because my vocabulary sucks.
And also, regarding this specific topic of this story,
I'm a big fan of Dave Chappelle.
Right, and I think with commentary or comedy,
if everyone likes it, then it's probably not good.
Something that I liked from a Salon article about this,
they wrote "comedians are supposed
to say the things we can't or won't.
If everyone agrees, they're not doing their jobs."
And I really agree with that.
But yeah, that's this quickie story,
my personal reaction to it, and of course,
I pass the question off to you.
What are your thoughts on this?
I'd love to know in those comments down below.
And then let's talk about the interesting news
surrounding the SAT and College Board.
Right, so back in May, a tool called
the Environmental Context Dashboard was announced.
And it was something that was intended to assess
the kind of background that a student came from
based on 15 different factors.
Factors that included neighborhood crime rates,
family income, what percentage of students
received free or reduced meals in a community, and more.
And all of those metrics were reportedly then used
to create one score on a scale
of one to 100 called an adversity score.
With a score of 50 considered average,
and numbers above 50 indicating
more hardship, and under less.
Right, and considering a student's socioeconomic background
in this way was introduced as an effort to allow colleges
to view a student's SAT results in the context
of the conditions where that student lives and learns,
with many viewing the plan as the College Board
acknowledging the long running criticism of using grades
and tests alone in admissions without considering
unequal access to advanced coursework, high priced tutors,
and prep classes among other advantages.
With David Coleman the Chief Executive Officer
of the College Board reportedly saying that this score
would better capture the students quote "resourcefulness
to overcome challenges and achieve more with less."
And this was something that was actually implemented.
Reportedly 50 colleges used the adversity score last year
as part of a beta test with the College Board saying that
they planned to expand it to 150 institutions this fall.
And notably here, while the score reportedly
did not take the student's race in to account,
during the pilot testing, data results showed
that the tool boosted non-white enrollment.
And so some critics called this race-based
affirmative action under a different name.
Some saying that it was problematic to boil down
an entire thing into just kind of one number.
Others were also uncomfortable with the fact
that the adversity score couldn't
be viewed by students and families.
But with all of that said, up until this point,
these are things that we have previously covered.
The reason that we're talking about this today
is that the College Board has now announced
that they are dropping this adversity score,
with David Coleman now saying "the idea of a single score
was confusing because it seemed that all of the sudden
the College Board was trying to score adversity.
That's not the College Board's mission.
The College Board scores achievement, not adversity."
And so instead, the College Board says that they've
revised the tool which has now been renamed Landscape.
And they say this new system will still provide admission
officials with information about a student's background;
however, Coleman says that these data points
will not be given a score and they will be made
available to students and families.
And as far as the timing here, Coleman says
that within a year, they'll be able
to show this information transparently.
And as far as the data in question,
the College Board says that will record general data
about a student's high school including locale,
senior class size, percentage of students eligible
for free or reduced lunch, average SAT scores,
and AP participation and performance.
Additionally, they will also provide colleges
with data about a student's neighborhood
and school based on six key factors.
And those factors were reportedly college attendance,
household structure, median family income,
housing stability, education levels, and crime rates,
with Coleman saying "we'll leave
the interpretation to the admission's officer."
And adding "in other words, we're leaving
a lot more room for judgment."
And as far as my reaction to this story,
it feels like it's essentially the same thing,
but they're kind of pushing the responsibility to the side.
If the previous system that they were testing
was them baking a cake, this new one feels a little bit
like they're Hello Fresh, they're like we've given you
the ingredients and you can make the cake yourself now
because everyone got really angry when we made the cake.
That said, I think there's still a conversation and debate
around if they should be providing this, is it helpful.
And I personally think that in the right hands, it could be.
You know, much like how you would consider
a student's extra curricular activities, right,
they maybe have extra time, they're part of this club
and they donated their time to this charity.
Right, so to a certain degree, it might make sense
to consider the obstacles that others were able to bypass.
But hey, ultimately, that's the story, some of my thoughts,
and of course as always, I pass the question off to you.
What are your thoughts on this?
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And then finally, let's talk about these
massive updates around the ProJared situation.
Now for those unfamiliar with this situation,
ProJared is a YouTuber, streamer, and gamer,
and he was accused of several things
including sexual misconduct, and notably there,
that also included people accusing him of soliciting
and sending nudes from underage people.
And a lot of this blew up back in May
when he announced that he and his now ex wife
cosplayer Heidi O'Farrell would be getting a divorce.
And there, along with saying that "this decision
was reached after extensive individual therapy on my part
and couples therapy together" and that this
is "all I plan on stating publicly regarding this matter."
He notably included "during this time you may see a lot
of rumors, speculation, and gossip going around.
I ask that you make your own observations
and come to your own conclusions."
And before moving forward, I do wanna point out they're kind
of three things that different groups are focusing on here.
ProJared's relationship and accusations
connected to his now ex wife Heidi,
his alleged interactions with legal aged fans,
and then his alleged interactions with underage fans.
So with all of that said, after Jared put out
that post, we heard from Heidi.
She tweeted that Jared had cheated on her
and said that he was abusive towards her.
She also said that she knew that he
was soliciting sexually explicit photos from his fans,
but believed them to all be consenting adults,
and adding that she had previously thought
this was kind of a Tumblr joke at first.
But then saying "it kept escalating secretly.
He started a Snapchat for getting
nudes from fans without telling me.
I found out via a fan comment.
I felt pressured to allow it
even though I was uncomfortable."
But now sees it as manipulative and as an abuse
of power since he is a public figure.
That then led to accusations that he sent unsolicited nudes.
And notably there were two major accusations
from two people who claimed to be minors
at the time that they spoke with Jared.
One who goes by the name Chai said that he was 16
at the time and that ProJared was aware of his age
and that he did send Jared his nudes.
And another accusation that followed
came by another person who goes by Charlie.
And they said that they were close to Chai's age
when they interacted with ProJared, adding that they
sent pictures to him and that he never asked for their age.
Along with this there were also accusations
about inappropriate behavior on a blog used by ProJared
and his fans, many of whom said that they were young.
And as a result of all these accusations coming out,
he lost subscribers, YouTubers started
to distance themselves from him,
Normal Boots, the creator collective that he belonged to,
said that they mutually agreed to part ways and planned
to do so before the accusations were made public.
Another creator collective by the name of Game Grumps
started removing videos that he appeared in.
And following all of this, Jared ended up releasing
a statement saying that he was quote "I am deeply sorry
to anyone who has seen the accusations, vitriol,
or unwanted photos that my former partner Heidi
and others have been posting online."
He then continued to discuss his marriage, divorce,
and accusations that he cheated on his wife
with someone named Holly, and adding
"a few years ago, Heidi asked me
if we could be in an open, polyamorous marriage."
Adding "Heidi has taken several casual partners,
and has been in a more serious relationship
with another partner since 2017."
Going on to claim "Heidi encouraged me to tell Holly
that I was developing feelings for her.
But when I did, things changed with Heidi."
Saying "she became angry and vindictive, and did not
want me to see or speak with Holly anymore.
She called me a 'cheater' and claimed that I was destroying
our marriage because of my 'affair'" this "even though she
continued to have other relationships with other partners."
He claims that he was quote "never the abuser"
and added that he tried to end the relationship in October.
He then goes on to say "I want everyone to know
that any other interactions I may have had
with any other women were known to,
and encouraged by, Heidi, and were had
with only the purest and lawful intentions."
Also regarding sharing more of his side of the story,
he says "even though I have been tempted
to put information out online that shows my side
of the story, I don't want to further stoke the fires
of what should be a private matter between us."
And he closed that previous statement by saying
"I am sorry to everyone that I have disappointed.
I realize that as a public figure,
I am held to a higher standard.
I have made my share of mistakes, but I have only ever
tried to do what's best for Heidi and me."
Right, so that's kind of the simplified recap,
but then yesterday we got a massive update to this story.
With ProJared releasing a 42 minute long
video called You've Been Lied To.
And there he tells his side of the story, which,
as of recording this video, it has over one million views.
He opens by saying that the accusations of him
exchanging photos with minors were false
and that he had proof, and adding that he only sent
and solicited nude photos from consenting adults.
- What this all came down to was people saying that
I was exchanging nudes with fans on Snapchat and Tumblr.
And a lot of people wanna know if I did any of that.
Yeah, I did, and I always made it clear
that it was for consenting adults only.
- Now as far as people saying that he abused his power
and his position, he said he did not, but did say.
- There was a power imbalance.
That comes down to who I am and what I do.
Even if there was nothing offered in return, there was still
incentive for people to do it because I am a YouTuber.
- And there he says that he understands this perspective
and apologizes to those who were upset
that there was a power imbalance.
And following that, he starts diving to accusations
that were made against him, primarily the ones by Chai
and Charlie, and there he notes that both of them
have deleted their initial accusation tweets.
First discussing Chai's story where ProJared
claims that he had no memory of ever interacting
with Chai on any basis, and saying that the things
Chai claims don't sound like his character.
He then breaks down a timeline of Chai's accusations,
which Chai said happened in 2016, specifically
between March and July, which also happens to overlap
with the time when ProJared's Tumblr was hacked.
Also saying that it lined up with a very important
part of Chai's life, that ProJared says
he wrote about in a Medium post.
Chai had allegedly suffered a severe head injury
playing basketball in November of 2015 which caused him
to have a gap in memory for the next six months.
It also came with hallucinations and voices in his head,
which eventually told him to do violent things,
which he said were part of psychosis,
and adding that it reached a tipping point when in August
of 2016, his psychosis symptoms were so bad
that he told his mom that he would kill her
if she didn't take him to the hospital.
But after his hospitalization, he eventually became better.
And all of this, ProJared says.
- To reiterate, Chai's accusation was that the things
I supposedly did happened between March 2016 and May 2016.
Chai also states that he has no memory during this exact
same period and hallucinations continuing until August 2016.
- And also arguing that since this happened
when his Tumblr was hacked, the hacker
would've presumably leaked it if it were real.
He then goes on to say that it is a possibility
that Chai lied about his medical situation,
but that if he lied about that,
then that could make him untrustworthy.
ProJared then goes into accusations
from Charlie, who says he does remember.
And there he says that screenshots of messages
that Charlie shared were cropped to make him look bad,
notably not including this part of their messages
where it appears that ProJared does ask for Charlie's age,
and they say they are above 18, this even though
in their claim and interview at the Daily Beast,
Charlie said that ProJared did not ask for their age.
ProJared then goes on to say that Chai and Charlie
actually first took their stories to the Game Grumps,
and adding when he saw the email that they sent,
that he actually reached out to apologize,
but he said that they were not happy
with the apology, even though in their email
to Game Grumps they requested one.
Also as far as the situation with Normal Boots,
ProJared clarified their decision to part ways.
- I was not fired.
I resigned so that everyone else at Normal Boots
wouldn't get dragged down with me.
- [Phil] And then he kind of closes out
this part of the video by questioning
how much we can trust Chai and Charlie.
- How can we trust Chai when his
cohort Charlie was already lying.
- And with this adding that he thinks the two did this
for money and attention, as they had linked things like
their PayPal and Amazon wishlist to their social profiles.
Jared's video then continues, and it also addresses another
allegation from a woman by the name of Pamela Horton,
who is a part of a group called ToasterGhost,
and she had claimed that when she met him,
which ProJared says was at a Nintendo event in 2015,
that he had looked up her nude photos
and then forcibly showed them to a group of people.
And adding that later on in their future encounters,
he had made disrespectful and lude comments abut her.
And Jared here says that he is especially shocked by this
because not only does he have no memory of it,
but he claims that since their meeting at this event,
they have been friendly to one another.
Jared going on to say that there were three other men
present at this alleged time, two of whom confirmed
to him that they have no memory of this.
Saying that he then dug further into her accusations
to try and find out a specific timeline
that he made the disrespectful and lude comments.
And there he ends up saying that she's referring
to an E3 panel with Pamela, MatPat, and himself.
But regarding that, Jared says that he's never been
on a panel with either of them, or even on a panel at E3.
He then goes on to say that while he does not
know Pamela very well, he doesn't think
that she would lie about something.
- I think this is something probably actually happened
to her, and she was treated with some amount of disrespect,
but she's putting me in the place
of someone who actually treated her this way.
- And there users on Reddit have pointed out that Pamela
did appear on an E3 panel with MatPat,
but ProJared was not there; however, users did point out
that one of the other people on the panel, Kyle Bosman,
does appear to resemble ProJared a little bit.
But a big note here is this is something that only users
have noticed, and regarding Kyle Bosman,
Pamela has not said anything against him.
But regarding this, a thing I do wanna hit on,
is that there are no confirmed reports or allegations
that she mixed the two up, and as of recording this video,
the only thing we've seen publicly from Pamela Horton
was a tweet saying "I try in my presence online
and in real life to be honest about my life.
We as people are molded by our experiences
and that's what makes people so great.
Trying to hurt or bring anyone
down has never been what I do.
People who know me know this.
I know my truth."
Now in response to that, you had some people bringing up
an old tweet from June fourth where she had tweeted
"to all the people that I might see at E3,
I apologize in advance if I don't immediately remember you.
I've been having some cognitive issues related
to both menopause and other health issues
that make remembering stuff hard."
But regarding those claims, we saw another creator
by the name of Amelia Talon who tweeted "no,
and I'll tell you why, Jared was a dick hole
long before Pamela ever entered menopause."
And of note here, as others have pointed out,
Pamela in her accusations back in May
did not specifically reference E3 herself.
But for now, that's where we are there.
So there was that, and then the final thing that
ProJared talked about were the cheating allegations.
And there he claimed that those were false.
- No cheating happened.
I told my wife of the time that I no longer
wanted to be with her in October of 2018.
I was refused.
I was told no.
I was denied.
I had my career threatened, I felt controlled.
- He then goes on to say that the stuff
regarding his relationship with Heidi and Holly
should not be made public business.
And then closing the video requesting people
not harass him or anyone else involved in this story.
Now as far as reactions to this video, right now we've seen
both Chai and Charlie's accounts being turned private.
Chai's bio saying offline for a while,
with Charlie saying "just cause I locked my account doesn't
mean shit, I just don't want any more death threats lmao."
And we also saw Heidi end up sending out a long twitter
thread last night about their marriage and his denial
of cheating, saying "Jared told me
point blank, I own my infidelity.
That's what it was and there's no excuse.
Now, he's publicly insisting
it never happened and I'm just a liar.
This is beyond dehumanizing.
He cheated on me, acknowledged it,
and backtracked for the public/his angry girlfriend."
Going on to say "he did suggest breaking up
last October, and then it didn't happen.
We had a conversation that ended
with the mutual agreement to stay together.
He kissed me sweetly on his way
out the door to go fuck Holly at Twitch Con."
She then goes on to say that Jared told her
that if she went to Twitch Con, he would break up with her.
She says that Jared was living a double life and she claims
that the real divorce and breakup was actually in February.
And there she shares screenshots of their relationship
at the time, adding that while not romantic,
she says they prove they were at least trying.
In another tweet, she says that Jared's sleeping
with Holly happened long before she even realized.
And regarding that lying, she said that it was calculated,
intentional, pathological, terrifying.
Saying "that's not a scared desperate man.
He was firmly in control."
And regarding the accusation that this
is kind of calculated on Jared's part,
Heidi retweeted a tweet that read
"ProJared has essentially just done what people
who are pro at manipulating people do,
and set off a fucking bomb for his ex to have
to publicly navigate during DragonCon week.
If this doesn't set off red flags of what this man's
character truly is like, I don't know what to tell you."
An event that as of this morning
it appears that she is leaving.
But ultimately that is where we are with this story
right now, and like I said at the beginning, there are a lot
of different things that people are focusing on.
Some of the things connected, some not, but with all of that
said, of course I want to pass the question off to you.
What are your thoughts on all of this?
And that's where we're going to end today's show.
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