okay i just want to read this quickly uh a few people had written in
after you made a statement regarding being born again and so this is from somebody one of them
and he says this is just part of his email the last broadcast you said something that really was
out of line with the basic teaching of scripture maybe i did not understand the context of what you
were saying but i am sure there are many others who would think the same thing after you said
that i just turned off watching to be honest you said that there are those that say if you are not
born again you will go to hell you then said that this is completely unscriptural implying
that those who are not born again will not go to hell okay i did say that and you were pretty um
small-minded to switch off because this is the problem with christians they they don't want to
enter or engage in the battle of ideas um you know we want to keep these cliches within us and as
i've spoken of before we become irrelevant because of cliches let me explain to you why i said that
if i if somebody walked over to me and said i am born again does that mean that he's saved
or the fruit of his life that determines whether he is in fact born again i wasn't saying that
if someone is not born again they're going to go to heaven or vice versa what i'm saying is
there's a cliche issue here and in other words i can just
be like any religion just repeat a few words and suddenly i'm saved that was the context of it
now sit still and don't move so i can teach you what i do believe
so you can really get some really good teaching when jesus spoke to nicodemus first and foremost
it was before he died on the cross so now you've got to understand this has been this is pre-cross
pre-crucifixion pre-salvation pre-blood everything prevail not prevail but pre-veil renting
into and ark of the covenant and all that before that nicodemus as a ruler of the law
remember now christ is not yet crucified even though he was crucified before the
you know the world began i understand that but he hadn't the act hadn't take place in time and space
so nicodemus's question is i know that you're a man of god you could never do these things
if god wasn't for you which is not altogether true by the way because they just took signs
a lot of them it was just signs he says these signs you could not do unless god is with you
jesus says to him nicodemus isn't asking for anything but he wants to become he wants the
same life that jesus has the same manifestation of life and the same rain and rulership so
jesus says i say to you unless one is born again you cannot see the kingdom of god
what i'm saying is put salvation out of the way nicodemus according to the law is saved
otherwise you're telling me that everybody prior to christ was going to hell no he provided a way
for salvation for the jews and for the gentiles if they did what he commanded so a jew a ruler
of the law pre-crucifixion pre-new covenant is asking him i want this life that you have
so jesus says you've got to be born again to see the kingdom of heaven he didn't say to get saved
according to jesus and nicodemus nicodemus is saved he'll go to the bosom of abraham
paradiso paradise and wait until christ sets the captive free that's what it was all about
why do we get so stuck on our cliches and so he says you if you want to see the kingdom you must
be born again so let's keep in contact with the kingdom context for the kingdom because
while jesus walked the earth he said to people the kingdom is near you when somebody asked him
a question and it was it was filled with with with hunger and thirst for the kingdom he'd say
the kingdom is near you now what does that mean it means the kingdom is there for you to enter
but you cannot enter it until you see it and then after his crucifixion and resurrection he said the
same things paul taught the same things he commits or practices these sins and he mentions the nine
specific sins shall not enter the kingdom that has nothing to do with salvation because if that were
the case every one of you will be go it will not enter heaven because the everyone's gonna
be greedy at one stage somebody's gonna be tell a lie or be impatient or whatever anger and that
so if you if you if you take it within the context of the kingdom while you're on the earth i want to
enter the kingdom now nicodemus wasn't saying when i die one day he said i want what you have now
because i see it's absent within the jewish community. so that's why he said that jesus
said you have to first of all see the kingdom and the way that you do that is you you are born again
of course it speaks about salvation as well but salvation is the kingdom of god
if you exclude the kingdom of god from salvation all you're doing is waiting until the day that
you die which most people don't want to do to get to heaven so they can receive the kingdom
daniel even said he said there are people that are coming who will re receive the kingdom and possess
the kingdom he wasn't talking about people beyond death he was talking about people on this earth
and that's a spiritual kingdom he was speaking about now so so nicodemus says to jesus how can a
man be born when he is old can he enter the second time in his mother's womb and be born so the guy
is completely clueless he not only can he not see the kingdom he cannot see a lot of things and then
he said jesus answered moses i say to you unless one is born of water and of the spirit birth
natural life water and of the spirit that means a spiritual birth in other words when you know when
the water breaks a woman and a child is born that is natural birth but there's a second birthing
and that is the kingdom of god he says which is the spirit unless those two things happen
you cannot enter heaven no the kingdom of god what is what does it say about the kingdom of god five
things you seek the kingdom you what's it seek the kingdom and then you see the kingdom that you seek
and then you enter the kingdom that you saw then you possess the kingdom that you
entered and then you inherit the kingdom that you possessed on earth why should
you be going to heaven and start possessing the kingdom so all of this you've got to take
it in that context and not switch off your thing and say well i'm not listening because
i didn't do ex say exactly what each a lot of fundamental preachers say just so if you
say you're born again you're you're on your way to heaven no there's a lot more to it than that
i want to possess the kingdom of god i want the holy spirit to come upon me and teach me how to
pray this is all kingdom stuff so so then he goes on to say that which is born of flesh is flesh
so that's you that which is born of spirit is spirit so we have the spirit that comes alive
of course in christ now remember he told him this before he died on the cross now i want to take
you too quickly to second p just to answer your question because you you represent the people
this person also said by the way i'm not upset with you because the person that wrote apologized
but people said oh there's probably most of your followers that have turned turned
off i'm sorry to tell you this but we've actually increased so the whole thing is you've got to stop
judging because i don't because i don't give a cliche i don't just say oh i'm saved well how do
i know that you're saved well i believe jesus is lord well the devil does that bowser's knee and
trembles so we've got to watch out for all but a bunch of people that are saying things
but they've never actually had the experience of being born again which means what you saw the
kingdom and that kingdom you entered because the king led you into that kingdom now second first
peter chapter 1 and this is what it says verse 19. we are saved and of course i'm not against
the word saved but again we have determined what saved ears if they don't curse they don't
drink they speak in other tongues or whatever then they must be saved again you're wrong
because god is more merciful than we are he knows what somebody says before they die their one cry
can cause salvation to come to them so he says but you you you are washed you're not redeemed
with corruptable things like silver or gold from your aimless conduct conduct excuse me
received by the tradition of your fathers and a lot of people are not understanding because
they they're so stuck on the traditional way of believing again i say it to you you must be born
again to see the kingdom of god that's all he said you must follow him to be a follower of christ is
more important than these cliches born again is a beautiful experience listen to what it says
and so that you were redeemed with the precious blood of christ a redemption came through the
blood and a lamb without blemish and without spot that's him he indeed was foreordained before the
foundation of the world but was manifest in these last times for you now what's interesting is he
says peter says well how many six uh 1900 years or so ago he says in these last times in these
end times and thousands of years have gone well a thousand eight hundred nine years have gone by
and it's and we're still calling it the last times or the end times well it is but the end times is
not the last few years it could be hundreds of years and so that's another cliche we get stuck in
and he says who through him believed in god we raised him from the dead and gave him
glory so that you that your faith and hope are in god since you have purified your souls now that's
another issue i can get right into now how do they purify their souls in doing what obeying the truth
the purification of the soul comes by the obedience to the truth what is truth your word
is truth so if you are obeying the word that means you are obeying obeying the truth that is evidence
that you are saved if you demonstrating the kingdom you have been born again because you've
entered the kingdom of god on the earth am i making sense here i hope so because i think
it's it's very important people understand that i do believe in the rebirth of course i do but
i i don't believe in there's so much more that happens than that since you have been purif you've
purified your souls in doing what obeying the truth you purify your soul by obeying the truth
through the spirit which means the truth that comes to you in your lifetime as well rhema word
insincerely insincere love of the brothers oh kim i thought i could just be born again no he
says the purification of soul comes by obeying the truth in the spirit sincere love for your brothers
you tell me you born again but you don't have sincere love for your brothers you've got a
problem i'll question that then and that you love one another fervently with a pure heart
because you've been born again in other words he's saying all of this is evidence that you're born
again not of corruptible seed which is where he says you're born of the water which is man
but of incorruptible seed through the word of god which lives and abides forever
are you born again kim i think so no no you've got to know so the evidence is
that you see from a kingdom perspective and you enter those things that you see
during your life and you demonstrate it the demonstration is the obedience to the truth
the loving of your brothers loving each other with pure love and walking in that truth