>> Brian: YOU BEEN FOLLOWING
THIS TRIAL JAMES BAKER TAKING A
THE STAND IN THE SUSSMANN TRIAL
SAYING IS HE 100 PERCENT
CONFIDENT HILLARY CLINTON FORMER
COMPLAIN LAWYER DENIED ACTING ON
BEHALF OF ANY CLIENT WHEN HE
GAVE THE FBI NOW DEBUNK
INFORMATION LINKING TRUMP AND
RUSSIA.
MEANWHILE THE JUDGE IN THE CASE
HAS SLAPPED DOWN THE MISTRIAL
REQUEST.
NOT A SURPRISE.
HERE TO BREAK IT ALL DOWN IS FOX
NEWS CONTRIBUTOR GEORGE
WASHINGTON LAWYER JONATHAN
TURLEY.
JONATHAN, WHAT WAS THE MOST
SIGNIFICANT THING TO COME OUT
YESTERDAY AS MICHAEL SUSSMANN
TALKED TO JIM BAKER ONE DAY
AFTER TALKING TO MARC ELIAS?
>> WELL, THIS WAS A REAL PILE
ON, BRIAN.
YOU HAD REALLY DAMNING EVIDENCE
FROM MARC ELIAS THE FORMER
CLINTON CAMPAIGN GENERAL COUNSEL
AND THEN JIM BAKER THE FORMER
FBI GENERAL COUNSEL.
BAKER LEFT NO DOUBT.
HE SAID THAT SUSSMANN CAME IN
AND DID NOT SAY THAT HE WAS
REPRESENTING THE CLINTON
CAMPAIGN.
IN FACT, BEFORE THE MEETING, HE
SENT A TEXT THAT EXPRESSLY SAID
I’M NOT REPRESENTING ANYONE.
I’M HERE TO BRING YOU SOME
REALLY IMPORTANT AND DAMAGING
INFORMATION.
>> Brian: WHAT’S CRAZY IS THAT
THEY ARE SUPPOSEDLY FRIENDS.
AND SUSSMANN NOT ONLY WAS
WORKING FOR CLINTON, HE BILLED
FOR THE HOUR.
SO LET’S JUST USE LOGIC.
IF BAKER AND SUSSMANN KNOW EACH
OTHER.
YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT SUSSMANN
DOES FOR A LIVING REPRESENTING
THE CLINTON CAMP SO HE COULD PUT
THAT TOGETHER.
WHAT IS SIGNIFICANT IS AND YOU
STOP ME IF I’M WRONG, JOHN THAT
BECAUSE HE CAME IN AS HIMSELF
THEY KEEP HIS IDENTITY SECRET.
SO WHEN HE -- WHEN BAKER HANDS
THIS OVER TO HELLMAN AND SAYS
INVESTIGATE THIS HELLMAN FEELS
FRUSTRATE THAT HE HAD DOESN’T
KNOW WHO ACTUALLY GAVE THIS TO
HIM AND IF THEY HAVE A POLITICAL
HORSE IN THIS RACE, RIGHT?
>> YEAH.
AND THERE WAS ALSO AN
INTERESTING MOMENT WHERE BAKER
WAS ASKED WHY IT TOOK HIM SO
LONG TO TURN OVER THAT
INCRIMINATING TEXT MESSAGE.
AND BAKER SAID LOOK, THIS IS MY
FRIEND, I’M NOT OUT TO GET HIM.
AND BY THE WAY THIS IS YOUR
INVESTIGATION NOT MY
INVESTIGATION.
AND IT WAS A REALLY QUITE
SHOCKING STATEMENT THAT COME
FROM A JUSTICE OFFICIAL SORT OF
LIKE, YOU KNOW, DON’T -- YOU
SHOULDN’T EXPECT ME TO BE
WORKING FOR YOUR PROSECUTION.
BUT DURHAM FACES A LOT OF
CHALLENGES IN THIS TRIAL.
THE JUDGE IN THE TRIAL HAS HIT
THE PROSECUTION WITH LIMITING
ORDERS.
THIS JURY POLL POOL IS A NIGHTMA
FOR THE PROSECUTORS.
THERE ARE THREE CLINTON DONORS
ON THE JURY.
IN THE LAST 24 HOURS THE JUDGE
TURNED DOWN A MOTION TO DISMISS
A JUROR WHOSE DAUGHTER IS
ACTUALLY PLAYING’ ON THE SAME
TEAM WITH THE DAUGHTER OF
SUSSMANN.
SO, I THINK FOR THE PROSECUTORS
IT, SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY THING
THAT IS MISSING ON THE JURY IS
CHELSEA CLINTON.
YOU KNOW, A JURY OF YOUR PEERS
IS NOT SUPPOSED TO MEAN OTHER
CLINTON PEOPLE.
AND SO, I THINK THAT THE
PROSECUTORS HAVE QUITE A
CHALLENGE WITH THIS POOL.
>> Brian: IT’S UNBELIEVABLE.
PEOPLE JUST HAVE TO LEARN FROM
THE TRIAL AND DON’T WORRY ABOUT
THE CONVICTION AND IT SEEMS TO
ME BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT THE YOU
JUDGE IS SOMEWHAT COMPROMISED
AND CONFLICTED.
AS YOU LOOK AT THIS TRIAL.
BAKER CALLS AND BAKER BRIEFS
COMEY AND McCABE ABOUT THE
WHOLE CASE. AND THEY ALREADY SAY WE HAVE AN
AND THEY ALREADY SAY WE HAVE AN
INVESTIGATION GOING ON THIS.
WHEN HELMAND LOOKS AT THIS STUFF
HE SAYS THERE IS NOTHING HERE.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT.
>> FIRST OF ALL, THAT’S SIMILAR
WITH WHAT THEY HAD WITH THE
STEELE DOSSIER.
INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS LOOK AT
IT AND SAY THERE IS NOTHING
HERE.
THIS MAY BE RUSSIAN
DISINFORMATION BEING PASSED
THROUGH FUSION GPS AND THE
CLINTON CAMPAIGN.
WHAT WAS REALLY FUNNY MOMENT IS
WHEN MARC ELIAS, THE HEAD OF THE
GENERAL COUNSEL OF THE CAMPAIGN,
DENIED THAT HE EVER APPROVED
THIS MEETING AND SAID I WOULD
NEVER HAVE SENT SUSSMANN TO THE
FBI.
I DIDN’T TRUST THE FBI.
AND A LOT OF US WERE SCRATCHING
OUR HEAD BECAUSE THERE IS A
PATTERN HERE WITH BOTH ALPHA
BANK, WHICH IS WHAT IS INVOLVED
IN THIS CASE AND THE STEELE
DOSSIER.
THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN PUSHED THIS
TO THE FBI.
THEY BURNED IT TO THE MEDIA,
THEY DENIED THEIR CONNECTION TO
FUSION GPS TO A NUMBER OF
PEOPLE.
AND ALSO THEY DID EVERYTHING
THEY COULD TO HIDE THE
CONNECTION OF THESE LAWYERS.
MARC ELIAS ADMITTED HE TRIED NOT
TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT HE WAS
REPRESENTING THE CAMPAIGN.
>> Brian: YOUR GUT FEELING, DID
THE FIRST ARE THEY COMPLICIT OR
WERE THEY JUST STUPID?
>>
>> WELL, THIS WAS REALLY BREATH
TAKINGLY STUPID, I THINK, FOR
BAKER.
AND FOR ALL OF THE FBI TO PURSUE
SO LONG ON THESE FALSE COLLUSION
CLAIMS.
BUT I THINK IN THE END THE FBI
FOUND COMPLETELY MERITLESS THE
MEDIA KEPT PUMPING IT.
>> Brian: COMEY SEEMED KIND OF
BEFUDDLED IN THE TIME WHEN HE
WAS PRESIDENT-ELECT.
HE DIDN’T KNOW IF THE DOSSIER
WAS TRUE.
DIDN’T KNOW IF THESE RUMORS WERE
TRUE.
AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT HIS
BOOK AND NOW WE FIND OUT WHAT
WAS HAPPENING UNDERNEATH.
YOU JUST WONDER HOW MANY OTHER
CASES ARE TOTALLY -- GOT TOTALLY
SCREWED UP.
BUT THIS ONE WAS CONSEQUENTIAL
BECAUSE IT’S NATIONAL SECURITY.
FASCINATING.
JONATHAN, I HOPE PEOPLE ARE
PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE THIS
REALLY MATTERS.