JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
LELAND: GOOD TO SEE YOU.
TAKE CARE.
GILLIAN.
GILLIAN: LET'S BRING IN THE
REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THIS E
EQUATION, FROM WISCONSIN, MIKE
GALLAGHER, APPRECIATE YOU BEING
WITH US.
AND KICKING OFF THE G-7 BY
ESSENTIALLY SAYING THE UNITED
STATES TRADE WAR WITH CHINA
HIGHLIGHTS WHY WE NEED THE GROUP
OF 7 MORE THAN EVER TO HELP
WEIGH IN WITH SITUATIONS LIKE
THIS.
DO YOU GET THE FEELING THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GOING TO BE
TAKING ADVICE FROM THESE FOREIGN
LEADERS THIS WEEKEND?
>> WELL, I THINK THE PRESIDENT
HAS AN ENORMOUS OPPORTUNITY TO
UNITE THE FREE WORLD IN
OPPOSITION TO CHINA'S PREDATORY
PRACTICES.
THERE'S NO QUESTION IN MY MIND
THAT THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY
REPRESENTS OUR BIGGEST ECONOMIC
AND GEOPOLITICAL THREAT OVER THE
LONG-TERM.
I BELIEVE WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING
OF A GENERATIONAL STRUGGLE AND I
BELIEVE THE BEST WEAPON WE HAVE
IN THAT FIGHT IS TO BE ON THE
SAME PAGE WITH OUR ALLIES IN
PUSHING BACK AGAINST THE CCP.
AND FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN
ANY--
>> DO YOU THINK THAT SOME OF THE
FOREIGN LEADERS THERE LIKE
ANGELA MERKEL OF GERMANY, MACRON
OF FRANCE, DO YOU THINK THEIR
WORDS TO THE SAME TUNE AS YOU
JUST LAID OUT, ARE REALLY GOING
TO MAKE AN IMPRESSION ON
PRESIDENT TRUMP?
DO YOU THINK MAYBE HE'S GOING TO
KIND OF TAKE A STEP BACK IN THE
TRADE SPAT OR DO YOU THINK HE'S
GOING TO COME OUT OF THERE AND
WANT TO GO EVEN HARDER?
>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, I HAVEN'T
BEEN IN THAT ROOM.
I JUST WOULD SAY THIS, I THINK
THE SOONER WE RESOLVE DISPUTES
WITH OUR ALLIES, AS WE HAVE AS
PERTAINS TO THE 232 TARIFFS WITH
CANADA AND MEXICO AND SOME OF
OUR OTHER ALLIES.
THE BETTER CHANCE WE HAVE OF
UNITING OUR ALLIES IN OPPOSITION
TO CHINA, I THINK ONE POSITIVE
STEP WE COULD DO FROM
CONGRESSIONAL, IRRESPECTIVE OF
WHAT HAPPENS IN THE G-7 IS TO
BRING THE NEW NAFTA TO A VOTE.
THE FACT WE'RE ON RECESS WHEN
THIS ISSUE IS UNRESOLVED IS
ABSURD.
I THINK THEY SHOULD CALL US BACK
AND HAVE THE DEBATE.
NANCY PELOSI SHOULD FEEL THE
PRESSURE TO DO SO.
WE SHOULD KEEP OUR FOCUS ON
PROTECTING SENSITIVE U.S.
TECHNOLOGY EXPORTED TO CHINA
WHERE IT WILL BE USED AT BEST TO
REPRESS CHINESE CITIZENS AND ONE
DAY AGAINST OUR SOLDIERS,
AIRMEN, MARINES AND SAILORS ON
THE BATTLEFIELD.
GILLIAN: YOU BRING UP A GOOD
POINT WHICH IS A STICKING POINT
IN THE TRADE SPAT WITH CHINA
SINCE DAY ONE HAS BEEN
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY.
IT'S CHINA STEALING EVERYTHING
FROM SENSITIVE, CLASSIFIED, U.S.
BUSINESS INFORMATION, TO
STEALING ALL KINDS OF
TECHNOLOGICAL KNOW-HOW FROM THE
UNITED STATES.
HOW DO YOU THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP
IS TAKING ON THAT ISSUE
SPECIFICALLY SO FAR IN THE, YOU
KNOW, IN THIS BACK AND FORTH?
DO YOU THINK HE'S REALLY GETTING
AT THE HEART OF THE MATTER?
>> WELL, I THINK THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION DESERVES ENORMOUS
CREDIT FOR DRAWING ATTENTION TO
THAT ISSUE.
FOR THE A LEAST TWO DECADES
PRIOR TO THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION, THE BIPARTISAN
POLICY WAS IF WE INTEGRATED
CHINA INTO THE ECONOMY IT WOULD
MODERATE THEIR BEHAVIOR IN TERMS
OF MILITARY ACTIVITY, DIPLOMATIC
ACTIVITY AND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.
THE ONLY PROBLEM WAS THAT WAS
ENTIRELY WRONG SO THE NATIONAL
SECURITY STRATEGY AND DEFENSE
STRATEGY OF THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION SAY OUR FOREMOST
GEOPOLITICAL THREAT IS CHINA,
CHINA, CHINA.
THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS IS IT TO
ENSURE THE FUTURE OF THE
INTERNET IS NOT DOMINATED BY THE
CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY
PARTICULARLY HUAWEI AND--
>> UNFORTUNATELY, CONGRESSMAN,
THE PROBLEM IS THAT PRESIDENT
TRUMP'S ADMINISTRATION HAS
SHINED A SPOTLIGHT ON THE ISSUE,
BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING CONCRETE
PROGRESS IN TERMS OF DETERRING
CHINESE HACKS.
I MEAN, OVER THE LAST TWO
MONTHS, THE NUMBER OF CHINESE
ESPIONAGE EXPERTS THAT HAVE BEEN
IDENTIFIED ON U.S. BUSINESS
WEBSITES HAVE ACTUALLY
SKYROCKETED.
>> IT'S AN ENORMOUS CHALLENGE
AND THAT'S WHY I CHAIR
SOMETHING, A COMMISSION
REVIEWING U.S. CYBER POLICY.
I WOULD SAY WE'VE MADE
SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN OUR CYBER
POLICY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS
WE'VE ALLOWED OUR CYBER WARRIORS
MORE LATITUDE TO ATONIGHT A
POLICY OF PERSISTENT ENGAGEMENT
AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE
REASONS WE DIDN'T SEE AS MANY
CONCERNS ABOUT THE 2018 ELECTION
AS WE DID IN THE 2016 ELECTION
IN TERMS OF HACKING.
NO DOUBT TO YOUR POINT THERE'S
MUCH MORE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
ULTIMATELY, THIS IS A HUMAN
PROBLEM.
WE NEED THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST
IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IN THE
SILICON VALLEY TO WORK WITH THE
PENTAGON AND NOT THE COMMUNIST
CHINESE PARTY.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO WIN THIS
OVER THE LONG-TERM AND IF THE
CONSENSUS IN SILICON VALLEY
THEY'D RATHER WORK WITH THE CCP
THAN REFINING THEIR INSTRUMENTS
THAN WITH OUR WARRIORS, THEN
WE'RE IN THE TROUBLE.