AN EMPLOYEE AT J.P.
MORGAN CHASE IS ACTUALLY SUING HIS EMPLOYER, BECAUSE HE
BELIEVES THE PATERNITY LEAVE, OR PATERNAL LEAVE, IS BIASED
AGAINST MEN, AND ALSO AGAINST WOMEN.
SO, LET ME EXPLAIN.
THE MAN AT THE CENTER OF THIS IS DEREK ROTONDO - THAT IS AN
INTERESTING PHOTO OF HIM - BUT HE CLAIMS THAT THERE IS THIS
INTERESTING PRACTICE AT J.P. MORGAN, WHERE WOMEN WILL LUCKILY
GET PAID MATERNITY LEAVE, THEY CAN LEAVE FOR 16 WEEKS AND
IT WILL GET PAID FOR, WHICH IS INCREDIBLE; HOWEVER, MEN
ONLY GET TWO WEEKS OF PAID LEAVE, AND IF THEY ARE THE
PRIMARY CARETAKER OF THE CHILD, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH
QUITE A BIT TO PROVE IT.
LET ME GIVE YOU SOME OF THE DETAILS ON THAT.
HE FILED A FEDERAL SEX DETERMINATION COMPLAINT ON
THURSDAY, ACCUSING THE BANK OF DISCRIMINATING AGAINST
FATHERS BY GIVING THEM PAID PATERNAL LEAVE ON DIFFERENT
TERMS THAN MOTHERS, BASED ON THE STEREOTYPE THAT WOMEN
SHOULD CARE FOR CHILDREN.
J.P. MORGAN GIVES WOMEN 16 WEEKS OF PAID LEAVE, WHILE FATHERS
ONLY GET TWO WEEKS.
FATHERS MUST SHOW THAT EITHER THEIR PARTNER HAS RETURNED TO
WORK OR IS MEDICALLY INCAPABLE --
HERE'S THE THING, WHY NOT JUST GIVE MEN AND WOMEN 16
WEEKS OF PAID LEAVE?
I GET IT, THEY DO WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE LEAVE, THEY DON'T WANT TO
PAY FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT AT WORK, BUT THIS NOTION THAT THE WOMAN
IS THE PRIMARY CARETAKER, AND THE GUY IS THE ONE WHO NEEDS ARE
AND THE MONEY IS RIDICULOUS, BECAUSE SOCIETY
IS CHANGING --
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I'D LIKE MY PARTNER TO BE THERE WITH ME.
SURE.
YOU KNOW?
I THINK THIS IS AN INTERESTING LAWSUIT.
I'M INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THIS TURNS OUT, BUT IF YOU WANT SOME
PRECEDENT ON THE MATTER, TIME WARNER CHANGED ITS PAPER AND TO
LEAVE POLICIES IN 2014 AFTER A FORMER CNN REPORTER FILED A
COMPLAINT WITH THE EEOC TARGETING A POLICY THAT SAID HE
GAVE ONLY 10 WEEKS --
SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.
I AGREE WITH YOU, I THINK YOU CAN HAVE 16 WEEKS, AND ñ
MAYBE AGGREGATE LEAD.
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NO, 16 WEEKS.
MY WIFE, CALIFORNIA GIVE YOU SOME SORT OF RIDICULOUS NUMBER,
AND YOU CAN TAKE ñ
I DIDN'T KNOW THIS, CALIFORNIA HAS MANDATORY PAID LEAVE?
IT'S A BIG NUMBER.
SOMEBODY IS GETTING PREGNANT TONIGHT.
IT'S NOT WORTH IT, IT'S NOT WORTH IT.
AND YOU CAN TAKE ANOTHER 20 ñ I'M MAKING THE NUMBER UP BUT
IT'S BIG, UNPAID, AND THEY CAN'T, SOME OF IT THEY CAN PAY
YOU HALF, AND THEN YOU TAKE A WHILE UNPAID, BUT THEY'VE
GOT TO KEEP YOUR JOB.
AND YOU KEEP YOUR BENEFITS, SO IT'S ñ I MEAN, SO, I COULD SEE,
THERE'S PROBABLY SOMETHING REASONABLE.
FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU ARE THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER YOU SHOULD
PROBABLY JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT YOU ARE THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER,
THE INVESTIGATION IS A LITTLE BIT STRANGE.
IF THEY SEE SOMETHING LIKE, YOUR WIFE IS A TEACHER SO SHE'S NOT
WORKING, WELL, SHE WORKED IN GREATLY HARD FOR NINE MONTHS, SO
SHE EARNED THESE THREE MONTHS OFF.
WHO'S TO SAY SHE NEEDS TO BE THERE SIX HOURS A DAY EARLY
TO SWEEP THE FLOOR, OR WHATEVER IT IS TEACHERS DO.
SO, IT'S CRAZY THAT YOU HAVE TO LIKE, SHOW.
IF YOU JUST SAY, I'M THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER, THEN YOU SHOULD
PROBABLY JUST GET 16 WEEKS.
AND THEN, YOUR WIFE, IF SHE WORKS FOR THE SAME COMPANY,
SHE CAN'T ALSO GET THOSE SAME 16 WEEKS, IF THAT'S THEIR
ARGUMENT, THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT TO BOTH.
SO, YEAH, EITHER HE GOES TO BOTH, OR YOU PICK A
REASONABLE NUMBER AND IT GETS TO 10.
BUT, WHATEVER, IF HE'S THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER THAT HE
IS THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER, NO QUESTION.
ALL THESE THINGS, YOU SEE IT WHEN YOU HAVE A KID, AND
THAT YOU WANT ALL THESE OTHER FAMILIES THAT ARE SUPER
PROGRESSIVE, RIGHT, EVERY FAMILY I KNOW THAT IS FRIENDS WITH
MY DAUGHTER, AND THEY ñ
THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THESE KIDS AND THEIR MOTHERS, MAN.
IT'S NOT MADE UP.
THAT SAID, IT'S TOTALLY REASONABLE FOR A WOMAN TO
SAY, I'M GOING BACK TO WORK IN TWO WEEKS AND MY HUSBAND'S
PRIMARY CAREGIVER, GOD BLESS AND GO FORWARD.
SO, I AGREE WITH YOU GUYS, BUT SOME OF THESE KIDS, THEIR
CONNECTION WITH THEIR MOMS IS PROFOUND.
WELL, THAT CONNECTION NEGATES THE FACT THAT PARENTING IS
DIFFICULT IN GENERAL, SO ASSUMING THAT MY KIDS,
ASSUMING THEY EXIST, WILL HAVE THIS NATURAL CONNECTION TO
ME, I STILL NEED ASSISTANCE.
TOTALLY.
I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION
NON-HETERONORMATIVE FAMILIES, RIGHT?
THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF FAMILY STRUCTURES, TO WEAR THESE
KINDS OF STANDARDS DON'T APPLY.
IT'S VERY OLD-SCHOOL.
YEAH, AND I ALSO THINK THAT IF YOU GIVE MEN AND WOMEN THE SAME
MATERNITY LEAVE TIME, THEN ALSO, IT ALSO MAKES MEN ACCOUNTABLE
FOR ñ
I JUST FEAR THAT, IF YOU DO THAT ñ SORRY ñ
GO AHEAD.
MY FEAR IS THAT THEY BOTH SAY, WE ARE GIVING THEM THE SAME
AMOUNT OF TIME, SO LET'S REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO, I WANT LIGHT, THOUGHTFUL MATERNITY, AND SIGNIFICANT
ñ IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, IT'S IMPORTANT, USUALLY FOR THE
PERSON WHO JUST GAVE BIRTH, BECAUSE IT LITERALLY JUST
CAME OUT OF YOUR BODY, THERE IS A PHYSICAL CONNECTION; IT
IS PSYCHOLOGICAL, IT IS PART OF WHO YOU ARE.
IT INSTANTLY CHANGES WHEN YOU HAVE A BABY.
BUT, AGAIN, IF THE MAN IS THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER, THEN HE
GETS THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME, IT SEEMS CRAZY TO SAY ANYTHING
ELSE.