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- Hi folks, I'm Bob Schrupp, physical therapist.
- Brad Heineck, physical therapist.
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Today we're gonna talk about never throw your old shoes
out until you do this.
- Right.
- So Brad's gonna take the way, the lead on this.
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- Yeah. - Anyways Bob's shoes.
You know, we got a number of shoes here.
They protect our feet.
They help us balance.
They help us maneuver on uneven surfaces
but they also tell the story about what can-
- Right. - Happen to you in the future.
Cause they don't only affect your feet
but the shoe can tell you how it can affect your knee,
your hip
and your low back.
And we're gonna show you how to read this information.
- Right. - It's not that hard actually.
- It's like reading the tea leaves.
- Yeah.
And you don't wanna just do it once,
you wanna do it as every time you wear it a pair of shoes.
And you'll see from the time, like myself,
when I was in my thirties and PT school,
compared to now my footwear difference.
- Is it really? - Yeah, notably different.
- Yeah, because you change your running
or just because you're older.
- I dunno Bob.
- Yeah, I dunno.
- Well actually we could talk about that.
That's another story.
We wanna get on with the program.
- So we wanna look at wear patterns.
- Right. - Correct.
- Well, yeah, not only just on the bottom of the shoe,
but there's more than that,
but we'll get to that. - Right.
- We're gonna look at the bottom of the shoe
where it makes contact with the ground, the floor,
wherever you're walking or running
and see how that looks.
And we're gonna show you just a general pattern.
This is actually how big Bob's foot is.
I took his shoe and-
- [Bob] I can't believe that.
- [Brad] Yeah, isn't that amazing?
- [Bob] Yeah, cause I don't have that big of feed.
- Yeah, obviously, I dunno.
Anyways, so here's the bottom
of the black portion represents a normal wear pattern.
You heel strike typically at-
- [Bob] A little more on the outside.
- [Brad] Outside of the heel,
it rolls across the foot more on the outside
and then goes to the center
and it's a nice, more of an even wear pattern there.
- This is the right shoe by the way.
- Yes, yep, exactly.
- So my right side.
- If you're going to buy a pair of shoes,
you have a pattern like this.
You're probably gonna ask for a pair of stability shoes.
And if you have a good shoe salesperson,
they'll know what you're talking about.
If they don't go somewhere else, get a new salesperson.
Now we're gonna go to,
if someone's flat footed
or a pronator is what we call that.
Here's the right foot again.
The wear pattern here
is on the inside- - Inside.
- Of the foot.
And with that, a motion control shoe.
- Now that's a very stiff shoe.
- Yeah, there's very thick color sole on those.
- Can't bend it like you could bend this one.
- No, not at all.
- It just, it's rigid.
- Yeah, yep.
And they're a little more expensive.
But if you do this,
actually your whole leg internally rotates.
It can stress your knee,
stress your hip and your back.
So this is one of those patterns
that you wanna pay attention to.
So you don't get problems up- - Right.
- Up the chain.
- Now I wanna warn you too,
that these shoes, you know
anyone you pick still has to feel good.
- Right. - I mean,
you should put it on,
it feels good immediately.
- Yeah. - If you, it hurts,
doesn't feel right,
that's not the shoe for you. - Right.
- Don't don't go out thinking
it's gonna eventually wear into it.
- Right.
- It should feel good at the store.
- I had a salesman, my daughter's a little flat footed
and she put one of these on
and she said, "it feels like there's a big bump there and
it wasn't comfortable."
He said, "oh, it'll be okay,
you know, give her a couple weeks."
- Oh I won't.
- And I said, "no, we'll try something else."
- Yeah.
- The next one is a supinator.
That means you walk on the side of your foot.
And I've got, we've got examples of all these.
- Sure. - Real life except
for this one. - Yeah.
- But we've got some nice examples that wears
on the outside of the foot.
This is people have more tendency to roll their ankle.
You can sprain your ankle
because they do supinate.
And that one you'll need a cushion shoe.
Typically it's a rigid foot.
- Yeah, and I think, yeah, my wife likes cushion shoes.
- Yeah.
- But I typically think too Brad, in your case,
it's because you externally rotate your hips.
- Mm-hmm.
- Your hips are shaped that way,
the bones are-
- Right.
- So- - Yeah, we'll get,
cause my walling pattern is different
than my running pattern. - Sure.
- How its, which is very interesting.
And if you are a runner
and you want to be a fore foot runner,
in other words, your heel doesn't touch the ground.
You're gonna see- - As much as much.
- As much, you're gonna see the wear primarily
in the fore foot.
Maybe a little bit here
but not so much. - And that's where you
wanna see it.
- Right.
Then know you're you're doing what you want.
- You're right.
- Oftentimes a minimal issue is people use for that.
Which is nice cause they're usually a little cheaper.
- Well the idea with the minimalist too
is that you're trying to strengthen the foot.
- Sure, you're right.
- You know, there's a whole movement out there,
that's saying that our shoes are getting too big,
they're making our feet too weak-
- Too much support.
- Too much support. - Right.
- Yeah, so-
- Yeah, and I've been using these for three years now
cause I went to a fore foot running
and I'm very happy with-
- Did you have to work your way into this
or did you, were you able to like try,
like use it day one
and just keep using it or did you use it?
- I went to, no, I went to a minimalist
and I just-
- You just did it. - Yeah, I don't know.
It took me a couple years.
I had sore calves.
- Right. - It's not an easy transition.
- Right.
- That's another video.
- Well that's how I was thinking,
maybe you would, maybe use a old one
and a new one, you know, go back and forth.
- Oh, oh, oh yeah. - Yeah.
- Yeah, we could do that.
That that's option where you
have two different shoes you run with.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
- You're supposed to, you know,
switch off all the time anyway.
- Yeah.
If you're a serious runner- - Yeah.
- Run with two pair of shoes. - Run everyday.
Yeah. - And a altern them.
Anything to make it cost more, it seems-
- Yeah.
(Bob chuckles)
- All right here we got some real live shoes
from both Bob and I. - Yeah.
- So you know what you're looking for,
when you look at your shoes before you throw them away.
Look at, this is Bob's shoe.
You're gonna zoom in pretty good at this.
- This a walking shoe for me.
- This is one of your walking shoes.
You can see the pattern here is wore.
Just like a normal wear pattern.
It's kind of hard to see, but you can see it's wore here.
We have some more right here.
- You can't see the bridges here anymore.
- Yeah. - It's flattened out.
- Yep.
- And so Bob you're normal.
- Well, I've got really hot arches.
- You do.
- Surprisingly high.
- You don't have any foot knee pain
or hip pain from anything?
- No.
- Okay, and this is just walking shoe.
One thing I do wanna mention is,
on these shoes you'll see the outsole
which is usually a dark colored material.
And then the white color is softer.
When this gets through
and it hits the white, like it almost is right here.
You gotta get rid of the shoe.
We got some better examples of that.
- Cause the problem with this is,
this'll start altering in your walking.
- Yes.
- I mean, if your shoes wore out-
- Yeah.
- It'll start enhancing whatever problem you have.
- And it may not just happen over a period of time.
Once it wears out,
you get to that soft cushion,
you can wear out quickly.
- It can go fast.
- And within a few weeks,
you can really start developing some knee pain
or hip pain for whatever reason.
And it's because your shoes wore out.
- Yeah.
I have bought probably a hundred pair of shoes.
Not more in my life.
- You don't throw any of them on?
- Well, I give him the gym, Jonie something.
- Oh, you,
(Brand chuckles)
- He uses them. - Oh good, see?
- I don know what he does with them.
- Reuse, recycle, all that.
- That right.
- Now this is my running shoe.
And here's the mid sole.
It's a minimalist shoe all the way across.
And if you look right here-
- How much he's wore out dead shoe.
- This is completely wore out.
And I did this so that I can do this video.
Plus I didn't feel like buying a pair.
- Yeah. - But I had no foot pain,
no pain, but it's I did get rid of them about a month ago.
But this is pretty severe.
I'm down into the cushion, the white part of the shoe.
That's airfield foam, if you will.
And you can see it's really starting
to take a hole there.
And that makes my foot tip this way.
Now, if you look at a walking shoe.
This is, I use it for yard work now,
but this- - Wow, I was gonna say
that baby's wore out.
- It is.
And you could see here,
it wore through the outsole.
You can see right there is the end sole.
But it's pretty normal pattern here.
- Yeah. - Right across
where it should be.
So my running is clearly different
than how I walk. - Right.
But you walk with your feet turned out.
- I do, yep.
- And you run with your feet turned in, keep them straight.
- Exactly.
- And I think that's what you, why we're seeing.
- That's why we have this.
So this is my new running shoe.
It's minimalist.
I don't know I'm gonna like this one,
but it was on sale.
And I think it fit good enough.
And we're gonna see.
So it's pretty flexible.
- They are cushion shoes, aren't they?
- But it has no outsole.
It's all just air cushiony.
I have a few of these are gonna wear out pretty quick.
- Sure.
- You know, I'll keep an eye on them.
I have a little bit here
and a little bit there.
So we'll see how this goes.
And is what you need to do
with your shoes is check them out,
and buy shoes and pay attention to what kind
of shoes you're wearing.
And which ones feel better
and go with the ones that feel better
on your feet, knees.
- That has a pretty big heel yet
for a minimalist.
- Yeah, it's pretty light though.
And the, yeah,
this kind of goes up higher than it actually is.
Cause it cups up. - Sure.
- So it's not a true minimal list.
- Yeah.
- But it's more in that direction.
- Sure.
- Well, what happens is I wanted to get this exact pair.
Well this is two years ago.
- [Bob and Brad] They don't make them anymore.
- Cause they're not pretty anymore.
I don't know same color, but no,
but wait Bob, there's more.
- There's more.
- There's more Bob and Bob has other part, his
- Other issues.
- Yeah, you wanna talk about your issue?
- Sure. - On the top of the shoe.
- Yeah, so if you look at my feet,
this is not a good thing to see, but it's just
I have hair toes
and that means these extensors,
these muscles right here, are overactive.
- They pull your ankle up and your toes up.
- And these are firing when they shouldn't be really
to be honest with you, they're over firing.
And they actually gave me 10 a nights a couple times
throughout my running crew.
- Sure. - Right up in here.
- On the top of the foot.
- The top of the foot. - Yep.
- And on both of my shoes here,
both of my running shoes here, I have a hole.
I actually wore a hole out.
- Here, you gotta do this Bob.
Cause I think this will show it really well.
See that. - Yeah, there we go.
- That's all.
I've had this too in the past
but I've corrected my running for-
- I've corrected mine now-
- You did. - Yeah, my latest ones now,
I don't have it anymore.
- And how did you correct it?
- I just, when I run, I think more about relaxing
and pushing off on my feet-
- Toes. - Yeah, push off on my toes
as opposed to I just,
when I don't think about it,
I actually lift my toes up.
It's weird. - Sure.
- It's a weird thing.
- I did exactly the same thing.
I thought about keep my toes relaxed,
when I lifted up my foot
and I was able to control it
and it wasn't as hard as four foot running to change.
- Right, it doesn't take that much,
but it is funny I got that tendonitis
on the top of the foot.
I'm like, what, how, what
why am I having been on the top of my foot?
- Yeah.
- It can't make any sense to me.
- So if you're having that,
that's probably what it is.
And you're probably gonna see this pattern.
I can't believe I'm sticking my hand in this.
- We did this stretch
so I couldn't believe it either.
I do this stretch too by the way.
- I do wanna say one thing, Bob.
This can be a very complicated topic.
- Yes. - If you're having problems
in your knees
and you can't figure this out
or you don't want to,
you can get gate analysis on a treadmill with cameras on you
and you're gonna need a train,
probably a therapist,
a trained athletic trainer, a therapist.
And they will do a detailed gate analysis.
Look at you running
or walking in slow motion
to see how they can correct it
by orthotics inserts changing-
- Or creating up,
further up the leg. - Yep.
- There might be problems that are causing it.
- Yeah.
Stretches and that, you know
that may be unnecessary thing.
But for most people,
this will give you a good understanding.
So Bob, I don't know if this is gonna do anything
in regards to our biggest dilemma.
- Brad and I can figure just about anything.
- Except for-
- Broken heart.
- Right, and this shoe thing is not gonna even touch.
- But we're trying to work on relationships now.
So if you relationship, relationship problems go-
- And this could help that.
Cause if you buy a pair of- - You're mad at your spouse.
- No, yeah, you go buy him a pretty pair of shoes.
- Oh sure.
- Yeah, my wife has got more shoes in the house
and you can shake a stick at,
but I got quite a few too.
- My wife does too.
I do too.
Because of running shoes.
- Yeah.
Well anyways.
- All right, we-
- We gotta quit.
- Bye. - Goodbye.