On this program we always talk about Outlaw motorcycle clubs 1%er diamond patches what
is the proper protocol I always say earn your patch don't just put it on but what
happens when you create a motorcycle club and you just put it on and what happens when you're
in a Christian motorcycle club and you have an Outlaws mentality and you decide you know what
we're gonna throw a diamond patch on well today we're going to talk about a legend
that did just that I had to sit down with Pastor Philip Aguilar and I really want you to listen
to the words that this man says and listen to the experiences because when you throw these
Diamond patches on it is not a joke they come with repercussions but Pastor Phil lived this
in Anaheim California at a time where the biggest clubs were making their bones let's get into it
in prison I started a group called God's gang and so right from the get-go was in my blood
to be a leader and get a group going so I had a group called God's gang and we were still you
know buttoning up to the top wearing our bandanas half over our eyes looking all gangster because we
were brand new Christians we were rough around just like in the Bible then Peter and all those
that hung out with Jesus they were badass yeah you know they're not cutting off ears you know
yeah they were ready to fight all that stuff so that's I had a real rough beginning yeah you know
because that's my old school ways you know that's how I used to live so it wasn't easy just changing
overnight but I was serious business I did so well you know on serving God while I was locked up that
they let me out two years later wow and then two years later I come out and hit the streets in the
same girl that I burnt for all that stuff stole everything from stuff like that she saw the change
in me and married me wow so here now I mean I'm getting blessed I got this beautiful woman in my
life man we started having kids and I got a good job as soon as I got out Anaheim I got a job for
the city of Anaheim nice but then I felt something inside saying man you need to help people like
yourself I read this thing where it said Jesus said follow me and I'll make you to become Fishers
of Men and I go wow man you know I want to be fishing for men and I realized that I don't really
fish though for the tuna or the Marlin or the fast food I fish for carp yeah when's the last time you
were invited out for a carp dinner yeah nobody invites anybody we're Bottom Feeders so I found
out my people are the addicts the gang members the bikers The Misfits those that everybody knows look
at those Sinners I think that what you do is more important than a lot of people understand
everybody tries to like Bible thump to people that come from where we come from and they come off in
a way where they can't relate and I believe God made you go through all the all the stuff that
you went through because this is your purpose God was watching over you the whole time you were in
Chino like you could have got killed at any moment you know what I mean but you were always protected
but we don't know that we're protected but we really are and I think what you're doing I look
at you like a modern Templar you establish that believing in God isn't something that's corny
or like you know or you have to be buttoned up or whatever like you could anybody is is accepted by
God and I just I appreciate what you do especially so you know I appreciate them so here I am I get
out what am I going to do I got a good job but that wasn't fulfilling enough because everywhere
I go I see my kind of people so I started taking people in my own home before you know it I got a
couple kids but I got 30 people living in my own home and so that was just what I was doing I was
feeding people helping people loving it too you know I wanted that was my thing and these kind
of people and loving them right where they're at not waiting for them to get a certain way or
when they clean up their act but taking them just like they are strung out hung out everything and
I I started taking them to a friend of mine's Church and at the church they go can you not
bring so many people with problems in wow and because they said girls I bring them with their
asses hanging out their boobs hanging out you know High drunk you know all that stuff no money
and I go what are you talking about it's whosoever Jesus said so they go you need to start your own
church so in 1982 you know just a few years out from prison and I am telling you I started set
Free Ministries and just a street little church and then the next thing you know echo says people
are coming and uh we're doing music we're reaching out we're working out with the gang people you
know we're working out with the drug addicts you know and it's all for free we're not doing it for
money anything like that just loving there's just something about loving people where they're at and
whosoever will may come and being a servant and realize what a joy it is you know serving God
but at the same time you know my biker instincts came out of me so I had some of our guys you know
say hey can we start a little biker Ministry so I had a guy named biker James and a brother Billy
of mine so we started Christ's son's motorcycle club yeah well man one of the first Christian
motorcycle clubs on the planet nowadays it's popular to start little groups like that yeah but
we started the Christ sons and uh and like you got to meet some of the geysers it's still gone but
the seed that was planted then is still if it's a God it'll keep on going and nobody can stop it so
here I started crisis Motorcycle Club and I had all the bikers be my ushers my deacons so people
would come to church and they would start telling other people where they go hey these bikers
they're they're different people because people still look at bikers going down the street and
think all these things that they're out raping and robbing and doing all this drugs and violence so I
had all the it was it wasn't a toy wasn't a plot or a plant people loved it they go hey I'm going
to bring you a church for this bike or a hug you you know you're gonna smell leather man they all
got leather and people really love that this was in the 80s it was very cool like I said people
and pretty soon we started attracting guys who would come to church from the Vagos motorcycle
club you know from the Mongols Motorcycle Club you know from The Messengers all these different clubs
what started coming because people are all looking for God you know you get them there they're just
looking for a place where they won't be judged so often the church will say come as you are and
I take the hat off though or no drinking coffee here some kind of rule that puts it down but they
started coming in they started coming in and then I started working with the with the gang members
we started working and before you know like I said the place just started blowing up with people and
that's where you know I met guys like Terry the Tramp you know he started coming bringing a whole
group of guys from his thing and kind of made people over the years and the biker Ministry grew
then we started a club called the servants for Christ that grew to over a hundred and some guys
in that club it's just God was blessing whatever we were doing so how was that because you know
like a lot of the bigger clubs when you expand they have problems with that since you were so
tied in because of the set free how rough was it you know first coming out with all these people in
a new club because you talk about it like it's a regular thing but there's clubs that try to start
every day that gets shut down so how was that process well remember I'm a new creation God's
still working on me I'm still at work progress I was never a guy to ask permission for anything
so I just did everything and asked for forgiveness later and I'm not advising people to do that
because there's a payment and all that and so me I'm just doing it thinking everything's cool
but I can remember being at a run-up in Tulare California and some of the other Outlaw Bikers
coming to me and I'm walking with about 50 of my guys and they're letting me know protocol you
don't walk with 50 guys together that shows like a power move I just never was one for the rules
yeah if you tell me don't touch I'm touching yeah you know I remember hearing the Bible verse can a
man take fire into his bosom and not get burnt and my first thought was how burnt will I get you know
what I mean yeah so God was still working on my pride you know ain't nobody gonna ask permission
you know there was no Coalition back in the day yeah that I ever heard of yeah and then when I
heard there was a coalition didn't mean I was going to go to those meetings I was just one of
those Rebels you know doing that so yeah I had people coming up to me they'll go hey you can't
be walking with that money I had learned a lot of those things so I started be I've always behaved
myself just enough yeah yeah push the envelope though right to the edge yeah once again like I
said I don't give that as advice to people because there's a payment to everything yeah you got to
be built like that oh yeah you better believe it like I said you got to deal with it and later on
so Christ's son just grew to be a big old group right now we have Christ sons in other states
other countries uh you know the the Biker Group you know servants for Christ growing um so it's
always been growth growth growth what does it feel like to like start something and then see it like
in other countries or around the world and stuff like that oh it's crazy we have some New Zealand
people that are just awesome whole crew got some people from Australia go close to Australia we
got a little Ministry started in Israel Bethlehem Israel yeah it's like uh it's like a lot of people
like I'm the kind of like the mother chapter you know yeah it was the beginning and a lot of people
think the mother is a hoe me you know and I go hey even if your mother's a hoe you gotta love
her you know because I've made a lot of mistakes I've made a lot of mistakes and man I got my last
book that I Rose called how to build an Empire and how to burn one down and I tell people I'm
better at the latter so I hope you enjoyed that the full sit down is coming it was an honor for me
to sit down with this man he is one of two Legacy interviews I got that one in the bag now the next
one is Hulk Hogan everybody knows he's the one who got me on twos so I need that one to solidify
for my legacy the interviews that I wanted the Legacy interviews if you want to support Pastor
Phil he got two books out right now on set free anaheim.com it'll be linked in the description one
is how to build an Empire and how to burn it down and the other is forgive me Father I have sinned
I'm currently reading them shout out to my brother Jimbo for the dope T-shirt If you want to support
the role get your ghost of La mass now shout out to everybody who's been buying them I had to re-up
again so they're coming so fast thank you to everybody out there and thank you for tuning in
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