NEWS THAN ANY OTHER NEWS ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD.
>>> NEW PODCASTS MOD HE WERE
RULES LAUNCHED TAKING ON
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, DIVING
INTO MINE FIELDS AND POLITICAL
CONVERSATIONS.
CONVERSATIONS. HERE’S SOME OF THE TALK.
>> SO, TWO YEARS AGO ANDY AND I
AND THE KIDS WERE IN UPSTATE NEW
YORK AND WE MET A WAITRESS WHO
SAID, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU AND
I WANT TO TELL YOU WHY I LOVE
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
PRESIDENT TRUMP. I SAID, SURE.
NOW, THAT WOMAN IS A FORGOTTEN
AMERICAN.
AMERICAN. SHE’S HAD TONS OF RACIST
OVERTONES IN IT.
SHE SAYS UP HERE IN UPSTATE NEW
YORK, WE DON’T HAVE THE
AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMS AND ALL
THE CHARITIES YOU RAISE MONEY
FOR, THE PLACES LIKE NEW YORK
CITY HAS.
CITY HAS. SHE SAID, NOBODY CARES ABOUT IT.
SHE SAID, THE PRESIDENT CARES
ABOUT ME.
ABOUT ME. WHAT DO WE DO FOR THAT PERSON?
AS A BLACK SUCCESSFUL WOMAN WHO
GREW UP IN KENTUCKY AND IN NEW
YORK CITY, WHAT --
>> I HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS ABOUT
THAT.
THAT. >> I KNOW YOU DO.
>> NUMBER ONE, I DON’T THINK SHE
GETS A PASS BECAUSE SHE’S
RACIST.
RACIST. THAT’S NOT ACCEPTABLE.
THE AIR, QUOTE, SISTERS SHE
SPEAKS OF HAVE THE SAME ISSUES
AND THEY’RE MORE LIKE HER THAN
SHE REALIZES.
SHE REALIZES. THAT’S NUMBER ONE.
TWO, I’D LOVE TO GO BACK TO HER
TODAY AND SEE, HOW DID THAT WORK
OUT FOR YOU?
SINCE THAT THE -- SOMEONE IS
COMING INTO A NEW ADMINISTRATION
RIDING ON A WHITE HORSE IS GOING
TO SAFEVE HER, I BET SHE WOULD
TELL YOU THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN.
IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT’S MORE OF A PIPE DREAM THAN
ANYTHING ELSE.
ANYTHING ELSE. THE OTHER THING ABOUT THAT IS
FAMILIARITY BREEDS RESPECT,
FRIENDSHIP AND THEN LOVE, OR
GIVES US THE BEST CHANCE AT IT.
I’VE HAD PEOPLE SAY TO ME MY
WHOLE LIFE, MOSTLY AS IT RELATES
TO JOURNALISTS, JOURNALISTS
CAN’T BE TRUSTED, LONG BEFORE
THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE SHTICK
CAME INTO PLAY.
IF SOMEONE SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT
BLACK PEOPLE AND SAYS IT IN
FRONT OF ME, PUT NOT YOU.
I’M THAT SISTER SHE’S TALKING
ABOUT.
ABOUT. BUT THE MINUTE SOMEONE HEARS ME
SPEAK OR LEARNS ABOUT MY CAREER,
I’M EVERYONE’S BEST FRIEND.
OH, YOU’RE SO ARTICULATE, SO
SMART, YOU’RE SO INTERESTING,
YOU’RE SO STRONG.
I’M GRATEFUL PEOPLE SEE ME IN
THAT CONTEXT AT TIMES.
TO THE EXTENT I AM THOSE THINGS,
I WAS THOSE THINGS WHEN I WAS
WALKING AROUND IN MY SWEATS AND
YOU DIDN’T KNOW WHO I WAS.
>> I LOVE YOU BROUGHT UP THE
WORD ARTICULATE.
WORD ARTICULATE. BECAUSE IT IS THIS HOT BUTTON
WORD.
WORD. I HEAR ARGUMENTS ACTUALLY ON
BOTH SIDES.
BOTH SIDES. EXPLAIN TO ME -- I WANT THIS TO
BE THE SAFEST PLACE.
EXPLAIN TO ME --
>> WHAT’S WRONG WITH IT.
>> YES.
>> YES. I’M TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING
NICE, I CAN CALL SOMEONE
ARTICULATE --
ARTICULATE -- >> YOU CAN BE NICE AND
CONDESCENDING AT THE SAME TIME.
>> YOU’RE SO MUCH MORE THAN A
MUSICIAN.
MUSICIAN. WE CAN’T EVEN LIST THE AMOUNT OF
BUSINESSES YOU’RE IN.
HOW DO YOU FEEL WHEN PEOPLE CALL
YOU ARTICULATE?
YOU ARTICULATE? >> I ROLL MY EYES IN MY HEAD.
>> BECAUSE IT’S A COMPLIMENT, IN
THEIR MINDS.
THEIR MINDS. >> IN ’94 -- THAT’S THE WHOLE
SUPER HUMAN -- SUBHUMAN --
>> WHAT IF SOMEONE SAYING, MAN,
YOU’RE SUPER IMPRESSIVE?
>> I’M GOING OUT ON A LIMB AND
SAY, I BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW AND
RESPECT ME AND YOU BELIEVE I’M
WELL-INTENTIONED.
WELL-INTENTIONED. IS THERE A PLACE FOR ME IN A
TRULY CURIOUS WAY TO ASK A
QUESTION LIKE, I KNOW IT’S NOT
APPROPRIATE, I CAN’T REMEMBER
WHY, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO
ACTUALLY APPROACH AND ANSWER
THAT QUESTION WITHOUT BURNING A
HOUSE DOWN?
HOUSE DOWN? >> I FEEL AS THOUGH THERE ARE
ENOUGH OP-EDS AND ENOUGH BLOGS
OUT THERE WHERE YOU CAN
DISCREETLY, QUIETLY
YOU WOULD ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT, ARE THERE SHARKS IN THERE?
YOU WOULD WANT TO KNOW HOW DEEP
THE WATER IS.
>> PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME ARE
LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE MASSIVE
PLATFORMS, WE BETTER DO OUR
HOMEWORK BEFORE WE RUN OUR
MOUTHS.
MOUTHS. >> NOT EVEN JUST FOR US.
I THINK ALL THOSE ANSWERS CAN BE
FOUND -- A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE
WILL ASK THE QUESTION AND -- MY
NUMBER ONE RESPONSE ON SOCIAL
MEDIA IS MOSTLY GOOGLE IS YOUR
BEST FRIEND.