NOW IS BEHIND THEM, JULIE.
>> Julie: ALEX HOGAN, THANK YOU.
>> IT REQUIRES A LOT OF WEAPONS.
WE’RE GETTING A LOT BUT WE NEED
MUCH MORE.
>> Griff: UKRAINE’S AMBASSADOR
TO THE U.N. SPEAKING TO ME OVER
THE WEEKEND WITH THE WAR IN ITS
FOURTH MONTH.
PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY LEFT KYIV
TO VISIT TROOPS IN THE
NORTHEAST AND CALLED FOR MORE
ASSISTANCE.
FORMER STATION CHIEF IN MOSCOW
DAN HOFFMAN IS JOINING US.
YOU HEARD THE AMBASSADOR.
WE SAW PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY IN
KHARKIV CALLING FOR MORE
ASSISTANCE.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS?
DO WE NEED TO GIVE MORE WEAPONS?
>> YEAH, WE DO ABSOLUTELY.
WE HAVE TO KEEP UKRAINE IN THE
FIGHT.
VLADIMIR PUTIN IS TRYING TO
LEVERAGE EVERY BIT OF PRESSURE
HE CAN ON UKRAINE AND ON THE
WEST.
HE IS USING FOOD, WEAPONIZING
FOOD TO TRY TO INDUCE THE WEST
TO REDUCE OUR SUPPORT TO
UKRAINE.
BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP UKRAINE IN
THE FIGHT.
THAT’S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN
REACH A RESOLUTION THAT
PROTECTS NOT ONLY UKRAINE BUT
OUR NATO ALLIES ESPECIALLY ON
THE BORDERS OF RUSSIA.
>> Griff: YOU ARE LOOKING AT
IMAGES OF VLADIMIR PUTIN.
HE MET WITH GERMAN AND FRENCH
COUNTERPARTS AND SAYS HE IS
SOMEWHAT OPEN TO RESUMING
NEGOTIATIONS ONLY IF THE WEST
WILL STOP SUPPLYING THOSE
WEAPONS.
ARE WE ANY CLOSER TO GETTING
INTO PEACE TALKS AND GETTING A
RESOLUTION OR WILL IT JUST GO
ON FOREVER?
>> I’VE BEEN TRACKING VLADIMIR
PUTIN FOR DECADES AND TRYING TO
SEE THE WORLD THROUGH HIS
TWISTED KGB EYES.
WHEN HE OFFERS NEGOTIATION IT
IS SUBTERFUGE.
HE WILL EXTRACT THE BENEFIT.
HE WANTS TO ELIMINATE THE
SANCTIONS AND ALSO WANTS TO
INDUCE US NOT TO PROVIDE THOSE
MULTIPLE LAUNCH ROCKET SYSTEM
ARTILLERY WEAPONS THE UNITED
STATES IS GIVING UKRAINE SO
UKRAINE CAN STAY IN THE FIGHT.
RUSSIA IS THE AGGRESSOR AND
BOMBED NEIGHBORHOODS AND
SCHOOLS, THE MATERNITY WARD AND
COMMITTED MORE CRIMES IN BUCHA.
UKRAINE HAS TO STAY IN THE
FIGHT RIGHT NOW AND THE
NEGOTIATIONS I THINK THAT
GERMANY AND FRANCE INITIATED
THAT PHONE CALL OUT OF CONCERN
OVER THE WAR AND OVER THE RISE
IN FOOD PRICES AS A RESULT OF
RUSSIA’S BLOCKADE OF THE BLACK
SEA.
>> Griff: THAT’S A GREAT POINT
AND WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH
PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY WHAT WAS
THEN THE 70th DAY OF THE WAR HE
TOLD ME, WE BROKE THE NEWS SOME
COUNTRIES THAT ARE STANDING
BEHIND UKRAINE PUBLICLY ARE
BEHIND THE DOORS NEGOTIATING
WITH RUSSIA TO BUY WHAT IS
PERCEIVED AS STOLEN GRAIN.
LET ME JUST CUT TO THE CHASE
AND THAT’S THIS.
WE GOT A BRITISH INTELLIGENCE
REPORT THIS MORNING THAT SAYS
THE RUSSIAN COMMANDERS ARE
TAKING A LOT OF CASUALTIES IN
TERMS OF THEIR BATTALION GROUPS
BEING ABLE TO OPERATE AND WHAT
IS NOW AN OLD-FASHIONED
ARTILLERY SLOG IN DONBAS.
CAN UKRAINE WIN THIS?
>> IT IS FOR UKRAINE TO DECIDE
WHEN AND IF TO NEGOTIATE.
NO COUNTRY ESPECIALLY FRANCE
AND GERMANY SHOULD DO THAT ON
UKRAINE’S BEHALF.
RUSSIA HAS LOST AS MANY AS
30,000 SOLDIERS.
THAT IS HAVING AN IMPACT ON
THEIR ABILITY TO STAY IN THE
FIGHT.
VLADIMIR PUTIN HAS JUST
ELIMINATED THE AGE RESTRICTION
FOR RUSSIAN MALES TO SERVE IN
THE MILITARY.
THAT’S KIND OF AN INDICATION
THAT RUSSIA IS QUOTE, UNQUOTE,
SPECIAL MILITARY OPERATION IS
NOT GOING TO PLAN.
>> Griff: JUST IN THE LAST 30
SECONDS WE HAVE, DAN, IT IS
MEMORIAL DAY.
YOU PENNED AN OP-ED IN THE
WASHINGTON TIMES AND YOU HAVE A
MESSAGE.
WHAT IS IT?
>> MY SONS ANDLY REFLECT AS WE
ALWAYS DO EVERY YEAR ON
MEMORIAL DAY ON THE SACRIFICE
THAT OUR FALLEN SOLDIERS HAVE
MADE IN COMBAT OR WOUNDS
SUSTAINED AS A RESULT OF COMBAT.
THIS YEAR WE’LL ALSO REMEMBER
THE SOURCES WHO PROVIDED US THE
INTELLIGENCE THAT HELPED OUR
SOLDIERS GET OFF THE X AND STAY
SAFE.
COUNTER FACTUAL HISTORY BUT
THINKING ABOUT THE LIVES WE
SAVED BY COLLECTING THE
INTELLIGENCE ABOUT AMBUSHES AND
TERRORIST ATTACKS THAT ENABLED
OUR SOLDIERS TO GET OFF THE X.
>> Griff: FORMER CIA STATION
CHIEF IN MOSCOW DAN HOFFMAN.