well it was funny it was hilarious and
it was good I fucking if you see Kay
if you felt it then we did our job
swimming pool of passion Mitchell one
attraction
I was born in Lewisham in South London
my mom watched some marks of Spencer and
my dad is a police officer I was always
a big head and so I was always like in
the shell as well
I'll go there is a big night sir
I think the narrative as I understand is
you signed your first music publishing
deal when you were 14 years yeah so how
does that actually happen I still don't
know I put some music out of my space
and fur out there and every day after
school I'll be on my computer sending
everyone on MySpace or my favorite
artists just be like hi I'm 14 I make
music listen to my stuff here and thank
and I want at some point it caught on
you know what do mom and dad think about
all this at this point like n there was
just like this is so crazy all these
white people coming into my house they
didn't know what they didn't understand
they I think we were all learning at the
same time and because I didn't know what
publishing there was and yeah it was
very foreign to them these people coming
into the house and talking about signing
these deals and give me money and me
being having a job
I wanted to educate myself with music
and start from the basics so I wanted to
analyze everything I loved about music
so like I dedicated week to dark charge
on a dedicated week to Johnny Lewis a
week to max Mayan I didn't hear with the
Sena mania
they've written for people like cardamom
sugar babes and they were really a
massive Club like the 2000s and all
those big songs I started working with
them you know I was 15 at the time and
so I was going over there and inputting
melodies and production ideas and my
first cut that came out and did well was
with the SIA days all fired up and I was
16 at the time it was like my first ever
you know top fired anything I was a fun
time was like wow
of all of the different artists that you
have worked with who is the biggest
perfectionist
mm what's a good questioning arm no
one's ever asked me that that's good
that's a good one that's a good stuff
okay I'll say do are yeah Dule but so I
cut you up I don't need you I know that
when we did our DJ yeah we did in Vegas
of course you know how much fun night it
was in this casino penis Taj Hotel and
it had a student for best years in their
course it does
a session was put in for me and hard to
work on the song together and really
nitpick on the verses and write a new
middle a and really you know get into it
and make it hers
I appreciate that amount of
perfectionism like duo wanted to make it
in relation to what she had been through
and so a lot of things changed in the
lyrical content that pertain to what she
was going through
I think the crafters write in great pop
music isn't always it doesn't always
have to be like a science and that's why
I think that this is the main thing for
me there's like a stigma that pop is
just like cookie cutter and it doesn't
have much meat in it when actually like
it can have a lot of me if anything pop
songs have shaped everyone's lives sadly
so it's like it's hard it's hard when
people and sometimes done great it when
you're in a room working with somebody
else
crafting a song what is the worst thing
you can do like what are the sorts of
mistakes people make that's kind of
blocked creativity that get in the water
wearing sunglasses really yeah look I'm
looking you eye to eye right now and
that's like important like if I'm if I'm
here and you're wearing sunglasses and
I'm supposed to connect with you or read
your mind like what obviously not gonna
ask you to name names but how often has
that happened it hasn't happened because
I made a rule I just realized that
you've effectively on-camera ruled out
ever working with Bono yeah if he's
willing to compromise maybe just wear
some clear lenses I don't know
Hey
slow down they don't love you like I
love you what surprised you about
working on a track with Beyonce like
what didn't you expect about that
process
why didn't really know the process what
she had was a chorus of hold on it was
no versus and so what I did was I wrote
a full song over the whole like across
the chin and the way she works is that
she'll get pieces of different things
and it'll be up to her what girls as of
us what those as the parade of course
whatever and so it was this little bit
that I done in that whole chain I had
done that she decided to be the bridge
the middle a the top c5 store Betsey
Louisville in the car like make that
bootleg make them highly like a bundle
part was looking jealous crazy so when
is the next stage that you hear your
contribution because I've heard plenty
stories from people that have done
something quite similar to you where
they've contributed a beat or they've
contributed lyrics and then like the
next time they hear it is on literally
on Spotify it is the process work for
you the Madonna thing I did hair on my
chin that wasn't fun but then the the
Beyonce thing I actually did get to hear
because we had the same publisher that
was that was out
me with those eyes telling tales and
sweet lullabies I know I feel it what so
I read a story and I don't know if this
is true and you can tell me if it is or
isn't that you came out to your parents
as a gay man because you knew they were
gonna start to hear you writing songs
about being into boys is that actually
true I think it was just that like you
know I was willing to be honest with the
rest of the world by I had and come ask
my parents and I was just like they're
about to see everything that I thought
they should be like prepared and
naturally it's not always gonna be
straight away everything's great
it's a process it's them learning it's
this me learning this is who I am
how important is honesty in crafting a
song honesty comes in different
variations you know you can be really
honest and be very oil biographical or
you can be quite honest in that it is
all fun and games and that is a story
and that is dress up because it's all
about you kind of have to create the
template and create what works for four
years
I think about you I'm Anika thanks so
much Peter thank you