- You've disrespected me
You've hurt me.
But I won't let you defeat me.
(bat smashes)
Two years ago AMD took the gaming performance crown
with Ryzen 5,000
but that was two years ago.
And since then Intel has changed their position
from punching bag to punching down.
But AMD promised us big gains today.
Even going as far as to say that their entry level
Ryzen 5 7600X will outperform Intel's
core I9 12900 K in gaming
at just half the price.
So then what's with the title of this video?
Well, let's put it this way.
Now that I have the data back from our labs team,
it's clear that while AMD's spin on the story here
is technically true.
The best kind of true.
The whole picture is a lot muddier
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Coming at us with the launch of Ryzen 7000
is a host of changes,
starting with AMD switch to a brand new land grid array,
or LGA socket.
Hooray! Say goodbye to the fear of bent pins
on your expensive CPU
and hello to the fear of bent pins
on your expensive motherboard.
They've also made the switch to DDR five though
unlike Intel's 12th gen,
there will be no DDR4 support
to help ease the transition.
And now everything is in APU.
That's right.
Integrated graphics are no longer restricted
to a select few team read SKU's
and now come standard with all the new chips
for testing today.
About those tests.
Thanks to the extra horsepower afforded
to us by our labs team.
This will be one of our most thorough CPU reviews, ever.
Data nerds, rejoice, and as for everyone else
do stick around.
There's a lot of cool stuff to learn.
Enough preamble though let's get to the numbers.
While Intel has long held the gaming crown,
thanks in no small part to 12th gen's
wild five gigahertz plus clock speeds.
AMD has responded in kind
every chip top to bottom got a nearly one gigahertz bump
to both base and boost clocks with single core boost
on the 7950X reaching an eye watering 5.7 gigahertz.
Additionally, they have doubled their level two cache
to one megabyte per core
and AMD showed us just how impactful
large caches can be even
without other architectural changes.
Except we did get architectural changes.
Ryzen 7000 marks the debut
of AMD's all new Zen four core architecture
built on TSMC's cutting edge five nanometer finfet process
and boasts a 13% increase in instructions per clock or IPC.
And this is immediately apparent in our first gaming test
where we see the Ryzen 7950X rip outta the gate
with an 11% increase in average FPSs
over AMD's previous flagship in Shadow of the Tomb Raider.
That is pretty impressive,
but the real gains are in the minimums
where we see a womping 30% improvement.
That means functionally no stutter
when you are playing this game.
Adding insult to injury for team blue,
every single new Ryzen chip won
in average frame rates over the 12900KS.
Wow, but AMD does have a problem here.
It's called AMD.
And we see a similar story in F1 2022
where these new Ryzen 7000 chips are huddled together
at or around the performance of the 12900KS
yet still get beat by their own last gen cousin
the 5800X3D.
In the great equalizer that is flight simulator,
We see the scores all get closer
with the new lot beating all of last gen
except the 5800X3D who soars above the competition
and the same goes for Overwatch
but there are some exceptions.
In CS GO, AMD's redlined 7000 series
does dominate all, but the 12900KS
which eeks out a small win.
And in Hitman 3
we see the new chips just barely squeak past the 5800X3D.
That's a lot of numbers.
So let's summarize compared to Intel's flagship 12900KS
the 7950X manages a small but measurable 5% lead in gaming.
That's pretty good, but more impressively,
The 7600X, the very bottom tier
is just 3% shy of a CPU that retails
for nearly two and a half times the price.
As for the 7,700X, well, it ends up in a somewhat
awkward position.
On the one hand, it is cheaper than the 5800X3D,
but on the other hand, last generation AM four motherboards
and DDR4 memory are affordable and plentiful.
So you'll be spending an awful lot more on
the accompanying components
to get worse performance almost across the board.
And awkwardly the same thing can also be said
for Intel's 12 gen mainstream chips
which get the benefit of using DDR4,
if you wanna save a buck.
Fortunately when it comes to productivity,
these new chips slay.
Look at this display of sheer dominance in Cinebench.
Not only do all the new chips, nearly match the 12900KS
in the single threaded test, but good gravy,
these multi multi-threaded numbers.
A nearly 40% increase over last gen Ryzen and
Intel's latest and greatest.
And the rendering smack down continues in Blender
where we see similarly large generational leaps.
However, while Intel might be getting bullied
on the high end, where they rely on weaker
E or efficiency cores to pad out their numbers,
the 12700K and 12600K actually end up trading blows
with these next gen AMD counterparts.
And we see the same thing in V-Ray,
where AMD does live up to their promises,
but doesn't really impress at the price points
that most users can actually afford.
Our Chromium Compile test will have managers rejoicing
and developers crying as their compile time coffee breaks
fall to as short as just 38 minutes.
In 7Zip the 7000 series extends AMDs
already commanding lead in data compression and
in our single thread sensitive FLAC Encode
all but the weakest of AMD's new generation
wipes the floor with the rest of the competition.
And what about AVX-512 performance
AMD felt compelled to bring this up,
so I guess we'll talk about it.
In Y-cruncher the 512 bit extension allows
AMD to calculate PI to 5 billion digits,
30 seconds faster than the 12900KS and over
75 seconds faster than the previous 5950X.
Why calculate PI to 5 billion digits?
I guess, for really nice circles.
No, in all seriousness though, AVX-512
mostly doesn't affect desktop users much
but when it does like for PS3 emulation
it can make a big difference.
So we're gonna have to take a closer look at that
sometime in the future.
Like you should take a closer look
at this extra hour of footage
from the build with my sister.
Available exclusively on floatplane.com.
SPECworkstation gives us some deeper insight
into professional productivity
and zooming in on media and entertainment.
We can see that Ryzen is a rendering powerhouse
but what's really impressive is the substantial leap
in encoding performance and Handbrake
over all previous gen CPUs.
Guys, this is not hardware accelerated.
This is pure software encoding
where those front end and branch prediction enhancements
are paying off for AMD big time
in product development and life sciences,
while the pricier AMD chips fare well,
the mainstream 7700X and 7600X are bested by Intel,
which is becoming a bit of a troubling pattern.
As for financial services though,
well that's AMD's game
and they win over their team blue counterparts
every single time with energy and general operations
ending up a little closer.
So things are looking pretty good by this point,
but don't worry, I am going to explain the title.
First up these performance enhancements
do not come for free and the price will be paying
besides cash is counted in watts.
Every Ryzen 7000 saw a significant bump
in TDP over its 5000 series counterpart.
So gone are the delightful 65 watt power targets
of their mainstream chips,
which have now been bumped to 105 Watts
and the 7900X and 7950X leap from 105 Watts to 170,
which obviously has an effect on thermals.
Using Prime 95's throughput benchmark,
we can see AMD's careful thermal management in action here.
Watch the behavior of the 7700X.
During high load periods we see temperature spikes
up to 95 degrees with clock speeds,
dialing back accordingly.
Then once our sustained load hits,
we settle in at around 5.1 gigahertz average
across all cores.
That is well above AMD's advertised base clocks
which is both a good thing and a bad thing.
On the one hand, AMD has really dialed in
their throttling behavior to help you
get the most out of your new rig.
But on the other hand, if you,
or the manufacturer of your computer skimp on the cooling,
you could end up with significantly lower performance
than you might expect.
For those of you who are worried
about AMD's 95 degree target here, by the way,
my gut feeling is that it's probably okay,
even if it makes me uncomfortable.
Cause here's the thing,
if you opt for a manual overclock instead
of using performance boost overdrive
which is what targets that 95 degrees
these 7000 series chips will actually allow you to
target as high as 115 degrees Celsius.
Isn't it hot in here?
Is it just me?
Anyway, Prime 95 is a worst case scenario
and our 105 Watts 7700X flattened out
at just 63 degrees after 10 minutes of F1 2022
with all cores pegged to their highest boost rates.
Not too shabby, looks like our NHD15 is happily overkill
for at least gaming loads
unless you plan to upgrade to a 170 watt chip
like the 7900X which hits 70 degrees
in our air conditioned room.
Digging into power consumption,
We find that as has become customary in the tech industry
the TDP's on the tin are more like
pirate code guidelines.
Do you want to enable precision boost overdrive
and blow past the hundred 70 watt target?
Like this 7950X that's sitting 190 watts in Prime 95
or are you the kind of person who drives exactly
the speed limit to maximize your fuel economy?
I think I know what kind you guys are.
And to be clear, even with the auto overclocking hacks
that drive up power consumption
AMD's chips are hitting much higher clock speeds
on much lower power budgets than the 12900KS.
And even the top tier 7950X peaked at 208 watts
leaving a solid 22 watts of headroom
for some manual overclocking before
you'll hit the rated power delivery limit of socket AM five.
Perhaps my favorite upgrade though is the integrated GPU.
Like yeah, most gamers are not gonna use them day to day
but they are super nice to have,
even if the ones in these chips are not that exciting.
Ryzen 7000 APUs or wait,
are we just calling them all CPUs now?
AMD? No?
APUs have better onboard graphics.
Okay. Well, whatever they are, CPUs or APUs
they have the same old, RDNA two graphics
which does still unlock some cool tricks
like hardware and code and decode
and the ability to build a capable little rig
without a discrete GPU or
limp along while your GPU's being RMAed or whatever else.
Just, you gotta keep your expectations in check.
We're talking eSports at 1080p, 45 to 50 FPS, maybe 60
if you're willing to drop down image quality a little
which looks great.
I mean, yeah, you need a new motherboard and DDR five
is literally twice the price of DDR4,
but Linus, you might say the platform is an investment
and AMD says they're gonna support it beyond 2025.
Well, yeah but this is where things start
to get a little complicated.
First of all, don't purchase a promise.
AMD certainly has a better track record than Intel
for supporting multiple generations of CPUs
on their motherboards.
But they've also broken these promises before too
like with socket sTRX 40 and
it's possible they'll do it again.
Also, I think it's fair to say that a big portion
of our audience, that's you, is gamers.
And if you're a gamer, Zen4and DDR5 and
PCIE gen five might dazzle you.
But what really matters is frames per second
and Ryzen 7000 hasn't really given us a clear reason
to upgrade over a 5800X3D.
Unless, you know you're looking to the 12
and the 16 core chips because
maybe your gaming rig is also your workstation?
The last big wild card here is Intel's impending
13th gen Raptor Lake launch.
AMD's mainstream Ryzen five and Ryzen seven
fail to stand out in the same way
that the top tier chips do today.
And if Intel manages even a modest five to 10%
generational uplift,
and it's rumored to be substantially higher,
AMD could find themselves scrambling
to bring out a mid generation refresh
with maybe the same 3DV cache that turbocharged
to the 5800X3D.
I would like to see that.
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