AMAZING GROUP OF VETERANS AND WE
WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT
SERVICE AND SACRIFICE AND HONOR.
AISHAH: I CAN’T WAIT FOR THAT
BUT FIRST HUNDREDS OF WISCONSIN
NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS ARE
ACTIVATED AHEAD OF THE EXPECTED
VERDICT IN THE KYLE RITTENHOUSE
TRIAL NEXT WEEK.
AS THE JUDGE RULED THAT THE JURY
WILL BE ABLE CONSIDER LESSER
CHARGES, THERE ARE REPORTS THAT HE IS GETTING DEATH THREATS.
HE IS GETTING DEATH THREATS.
ONE OF THEM READS ENJOY YOUR
TERM, IT’S GOING TO BE HER LAST.
IF I EVER MEET YOU IN PERSON, I
FULLY INTEND TO SPIT DIRECTLY
INTO YOUR FACE REGARDLESS THE
COST, YOU ARE DISGUSTING.
RITTENHOUSE’S MOTHER IS COMING
TO THE JUDGE’S DEFENSE.
>> JUDGE SCHROEDER IS A FAIR
JUDGE, HE DOES NOT LIKE THE
NONSENSE OF THE COURTROOM.
ANYBODY THAT LIVES IN KENOSHA OR
KENOSHA COUNTY KNOWS THAT.
HE IS A FAIR JUDGE.
I HAVE RESPECT FOR THAT.
AISHAH: EMILY, I WANT TO COME TO
YOU FIRST.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE LESSER
CHARGES.
THIS READS TO ME LIKE
PROSECUTORS FEEL LIKE THEY WILL
NOT GET THIS GUY ON THE MURDER
CHARGE SO THEY WILL TRY FOR
SOMEONE ELSE.
EMILY: I THINK THAT’S A GOOD
OVERARCHING TAKE AWAY FROM THIS.
KEEP IN MIND THE MORE CHARGES
THAT ARE THROWN AT THE JURY, THE
MORE EXPLANATIONS AND COLLOCATED
THAT IT BECOMES THE MORE
CONFUSED THEY ARE AND THE HARDER
IT IS TO COME TO A SEAMLESS
CONSENSUS DECISION FOR KYLE
RITTENHOUSE.
THIS IS WHAT I WANT VIEWERS TO
UNDERSTAND, PROSECUTORS SEEK THE
LESSER CONVICTIONS THAN A LIFE
SENTENCE IS OFF THE TABLE.
WHAT WAS GOING BACK AND FORTH
BETWEEN THE JUDGE AND
PROSECUTION ARE LOWER CHARGES ON
THE INITIAL MURDER FROM
INTENTIONAL HOMICIDE DOWN TO A
LOWER DEGREE MEANING THAT HE
FEARED HIS LIFE WAS IN DANGER
BUT IT WAS UNREASONABLE USE OF
FORCE.
THE SECOND DECREASE WAS IN
REGARDS TO THE ENDANGERED,
RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT HOMICIDE
AND ALL THE HOMICIDE, WAS A
SHOOTING. AND REGARDING THE REPORTER THAT
AND REGARDING THE REPORTER THAT
WAS TAINTED BY THE VICTIM THERE
WAS A LOT TO GO INTO THE
STREETS, WHAT REMAINS TO BE
UNSEEN IS HOW THE PROSECUTION
WILL SEEK THESE ACTUAL CHARGES.
REMEMBER THERE IS A CHANCE THAT
THEY MIGHT THROW IN A
PROVOCATION INSTRUCTION WHICH
MEANS REGARDLESS IF THE JURY
THINKS THAT HE FEARED FOR HIS
LIFE AND HE USE REASONABLE FORCE
FOR THE SELF-DEFENSE ARGUMENT,
THROWS IT OFF THE TABLE AS IF IT
WAS HE WHO PROVOKED THE MEN THAT
NIGHT.
>> WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN
THE NEXT 48 HOURS IF HE SHOULD
COME OUT WITH SOMETHING ON
MONDAY, THERE HAS BEEN SO MANY
OUTSIDE OPINIONS ON THIS CASE.
PEOPLE LIKE LEBRON JAMES GOT A
LOT OF HEAT, HE WAS PRETTY MUCH
MAKING FUN OF KYLE RITTENHOUSE
SAYING HE WAS BEING FAKE ON THE
STAND WHEN HE WAS CRYING.
DON LEMON THINKS THE JUDGES
BEING BIASED SAYING HE IS
TREATING KYLE RITTENHOUSE AS IF
HE’S HIS GRANDSON.
THEN THERE’S THIS THE MEDIA
SLAMMING THE JUDGE.
>> I’VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE
THIS BEFORE WHERE A JUDGE YELLED
THE BEHAVIOR VERY LEAST UNUSUAL.
AND IT’S CONCERNING TREATING
KYLE RITTENHOUSE AS A FACES
GRANDSON.
JUST PRORATING THE PROSECUTION,
NOBODY NEEDS TO BE RATED LIKE
THAT IN THE COURTROOM.
>> IS MADE A SERIES OF DECISION,
EACH ONE MAY BE INDIVIDUALLY
INDEFENSIBLE BUT IN TOTALITY
LEADS TO A BIASED, RACIST JUDGE.
AISHAH: THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO
HAVE KNOWN THIS JUDGE FOR YEARS
AND THEY COMPLETELY DISAGREE
WITH THIS.
MEANWHILE HE IS GETTING THREATS.
WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE?
SEAN: LET’S TAKE A STEP BACK FOR
A MOMENT.
FOR EMILY’S ANALYSIS, WHEN YOU
LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THE
PROSECUTOR YOU WANT TO MAKE IT
AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE FOR THE
JURY TO UNDERSTAND.
KYLE RITTENHOUSE IS THERE AND
MAYBE HE SHOULD NOT OF BEEN
THERE, HE HAD A GUN, THEY THINK
HE MIGHT SHOULD HAVE A GUN.
WHEN HE DID NOT PROMPT OR
INSTIGATE ANYTHING WITH THE
PROTESTERS AND WHEN HE CAME INTO
CONFLICT HE TRIED TO GET AWAY,
HE RAN AWAY UNTIL HIS LIFE WAS
IN DANGER ANY FELL AND 70
POINTED A GUN AT HIM, DID HE
FIRE WHEN SOMEONE WAS SWINGING A
SKATEBOARD AT HIS NECK.
OR, BEHIND A DUMPSTER.
WHEN YOU SIMPLIFY IT THIS IS A
REALLY EASY CASE OF SELF-DEFENSE
BUT THIS IS MY CONCERN, IF YOU
HAVE LIBERALS ON THE JURY --
ELICITED LIBERALS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY THEY ARE NOT LOOKING AT
FACTS, THE JUST ABOUT EMOTION.
EMOTION IS VERY REAL FOR THEM
AND IF YOU GET 12 LIBERALS ON
THE JURY, THEY MAY VERY WELL
CONVICT HIM.
HAS TO BE ANY OMINOUS SO ALL 12
HAVE TO AGREE TO GUILT OR
INNOCENCE AND IF ANYONE
DISAGREES IN A BE A HUNG JURY.
ON THAT POINT, I THINK THIS
PROSECUTOR WAS HORRIBLE
PROSECUTOR AND THE DEFENSE ON
THE PROSECUTION, THEY’RE NOT THE
EVIDENCE, THE WITNESSES AND THE
VIDEOTAPES BUT BOTH LAWYERS
PRESENT THE CASE TO THE JURY.
IT MATTERS HOW BELIEVABLE YOU
ARE, IF THE JURY DOESN’T LIKE
THE PROSECUTION THEY WILL NOT
SIDE WITH THEIR THEORIES.
A WHOLE BUNCH OF FACTORS IN PLAY
PLAY.
AISHAH: WE SEE THAT IN CASES IN
THE PAST, WHAT’S HAPPENING
INSIDE THE COURTROOM IN THE
COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION.
LAST YEAR MORE THAN 100
BUSINESSES JUST DESTROYED BY
PROTESTING KENOSHA, PEOPLE ARE
NERVOUS AND NATIONAL GUARD IS
READY TO GO.
HOW DO YOU THINK THIS ENDS IF
KYLE RITTENHOUSE IS ACQUITTED OF
MURDER.
WHEN GETTING IN TROUBLE FOR
LESSER CHARGES, WOULD THAT
MATTER OR DO YOU FORESEE OF MORE
OF WHAT WE SAW LAST YOUR?
>> THE FACT THAT THE PEOPLE THAT
DIED IN THIS INCIDENT ARE WHITE
ARE THE ONLY SAVING GRACE FROM
BRIAN’S HAPPENING.
RACE HAS PLAYED A BIG ISSUE IN
THE RIOTS AND IS BEEN SOMETHING
THAT PEOPLE JUMP ON TOP OF AND
SAY THEIR RACIST INSIGHT
PEOPLE’S PASSIONS THAT WAY.
IT IS GOING TO BE A LOT HARDER
TO USE THE SAME LINE OF THOUGHT
OF KYLE RITTENHOUSE FOUND NOT
GUILTY OUTSIDE OF THAT THE ONE
THING PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND
THAT EVERY STATES DETERMINE THE
SELF-DEFENSE LAWS AND BIG PART
BASED ON WHAT THE STATE
CONSTITUTION ALLOWS, EVERY STATE
HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DECIDE
WHAT IS ADMISSIBLE INTO COURT
LIKE THIS, I THINK AT THE END OF
THE DAY WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO DO,
WHAT I MOST WORRIED ABOUT IS
KYLE RITTENHOUSE IS FOUND GUILTY
ON A PROVOCATION BECAUSE IN THIS
COURT CASE, WHAT THE JUDGE IS
TRYING TO DO IS TO OR THREE
SPLIT SECONDS THE ACTIONS
HAPPEN.
WERE THEY JUSTIFIED IN THAT
MOMENT, WHAT THE PROSECUTION IS
DOING THEIR CONCEDING AND THEY
PROBABLY WERE JUSTIFIED IN THE
SPLIT SECOND AND THAT’S WHY
THEY’RE GOING TO INTENT AND
PROVOCATION AND EVERYTHING THAT
LED UP TO THAT MOMENT, WHAT I
DON’T WANT TO HAPPEN IS FOR THE
PEOPLE IN THAT STATE TO LOSE HER
SELF-DEFENSE RIOTS BASED ON
PRECEDENTS BECAUSE THIS IS
BECOME A BIG DEAL IN THE JURORS
MAY BE INFLUENCED BY OUTSIDE
MEDIA LIKE DON LEMON OR THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
CALLING THIS MANNA RACIST BEFORE
EVERYONE ON TRIAL, HE MADE A LOT
OF STUPID DECISIONS AS A SECOND
AMENDMENT SUPPORTER I DON’T WANT
LEADING UP TO THAT MOMENT BUT
EVERYTHING THAT I’VE SEEN IN THE
SECOND AMENDMENT SELF-DEFENSE
AND EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT I
HAVE HADN’T BEEN ABLE TO, I SEE
SOMEONE THAT USED THE GUN IN
SELF-DEFENSE JUSTIFIABLY EVEN IF
THEY DID NOT DO COMMON SENSE
THINGS LEADING UP TO THAT.
LIKE THE JUDGE SAID HE’S NOT ON
TRIAL FOR HAVING COMMON SENSE,
HE SAT ON TRIAL FOR USING
ILLEGALLY AND EVERY OTHER
RESIDENT OF THAT STATE.
I HOPE SELF-DEFENSE IS HELD UP
IN THIS TRIAL.
AISHAH: IS BEFORE ONE LAST
POINT, THE GOVERNOR SAID HE’LL
CALL THE NATIONAL GUARD, THAT’S
A GOOD THING SO WE DON’T HAVE
WRITING.
WHAT HAPPENED IN WISCONSIN
KENOSHA WAS BURNING FOR DAYS AND
THE GOVERNOR DIDN’T DO ANYTHING.
HE WAS TALKING TO HIS TEAM TO
BEGGING TO SEND THE NATIONAL
GUARD.
IF HE HAD DONE HIS JOB THERE
WOULD BE NO RIOTS IN NO CASE AND NO DEATH.
NO DEATH.
FRANKLY HE SHOULD BE ON TRIAL.
>> I THINK IT’S GOING TO BE FOR
ONE OF THE LESSER CHARGES I
FORESEE COOKIE AND A MISDEMEANOR