>>> Oh.
It is a trailblazer, at age 29,
she was the youngest editor and
chief at teen vogue history.
She's a judge at "Project
runway" and a new New York Times
and best selling author.
Her memoir "More than enough" is
out now.
She's joining us today.
>> Can I start evidence eryday with you
like this?
>> You guys have all the energy.
>> Let's start with the title.
I love the bottom "No matter
what they say."
>> Claiming space of who you are
no matter what you say.
I am finding on the book tour
that resonates with a lot of
people, young people.
It does not matter what age you
are or where you come from and
how big your dreams are.
We all in some shape or form
made to feel you are not pretty
enough or smart enough or young
enough.
My.
>> The list goes on and on.
No matter who you are, people
resonate with this.
It has been so great on tour to
have people stand up to say I,
fill in the blank, your name.
No matter what, who fill in the
blank may say.
It has been something that's
kind of a monantra and a movement.
It is a counter messages telling
you are not enough.
>> How cute are those girls?
>> People are losing their minds
over it.
>> One of the things she talks
about is standing up.
Talk to us about why you feel
this is a book you need to write
right now.
>> I feel like this is a moment
where young people, marginalize
people are pushing back and
rising up and pushing back
against those messages keeping
it small for too long and also
because we live in the age of
social media where we are
throwing each other success
stories on the internet and we
are getting the highlights.
If I am going to be held up as a
trail
trailblazer, I better be doing
everything in my power to make
sure that trail is smoother and
along the way making it less
confusing for the next
generation.
I want to tell the truth than a
picture on Instagram with
captions.
>> Tell us about your imaginary
aunt.
>> Talk about trailblazer.
>> A imaginary aunty Oprah.
I remember watching her everyday
at 4:00 P.M.
>> 4:00 P.M. On the dot.
>> Definitely Tuesday.
I miss those days.
>> They may be coming back.
>> Just the way she went
in-depth with women and I
believe there are so many
universal truth that are locked
up in the story.
She unlock those truth.
I feel like now we are in a
culture, we are always online
and we are craving the truth
that's really why I wrote this
yes, aunty Oprah.
I remember sitting in the
bathtub when I was a kid.
Mom, I am good.
I was thinking about that.
I would do imaginary interviews
and pretend that I am Oprah and
interview like Michael Jackson
or you know ghandi.
I will be performing both sides.
It was so centra and chandramatic.
>> You mean this little girl?
>> Wait, let me see the picture.
>> Oh my god.
>> Look at you.
Oh my god.
>> My mom some where is
screaming and crying.
>> You talk about growing up in
a household of mix race.
The stories you must have told
yourself and the things you
encounter when you realized who
you are, what would you tell
that little girl now?
>> Oh god, y'all trying to make
me cry early in the morning.
>> One of the messages that I
hope anyone reading my book
would walk away with and I would
tell that little girl that when
the world tells you the shrink,
expand.
>> Oh, I like that.
>> It is simple.
>> T mantra that you need.
And the world will ask you to
shrink inevitably.
>> It is a first article you
wrote for "Vogue" about your
why was that important?
>> When I got that job, I
learned in the headlines like
everyone else that it was going
to -- I thought it was a girl
getting a good job.
I found in the headline that I
am a black girl making history.
>> At 29 years old.
>> That one was when I was 25
and I became editor later.
>> That was the first time I was
like oh being a first comes with
if I blend in and follow the
rules, I am doing a disservice
to all the people who never had
anyone representing for them at
that table before.
That's why I had to lean in and
telling the story only I can
tell and a story I noknow well.
We have curly hair.
My hair has gotten bigger and
bigger.
>> We love it more and more.
>> Elaine, it is so great to see
you.
>> So great.
>> Please come back.