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by now everyone has heard of chat GPT what do you think will happen with this new technology
in this episode get the English conversation skills to discuss at work or at a party [Music]
hey there Michelle how's it going hi Lindsay how are you everything's good over here all
good over here too all good Michelle I have been reading a lot lately about chat GTP GP sorry GP GT
GPT [Laughter] yeah you have yeah oh my gosh I'm scared and excited at the same time how do you
feel about it yes also scared and excited and Dan is super I should have had we should have had Dan
as like what does Dan think he's excited ah both both like he but he he plays with it a lot to see
what it can do and he's like that's pretty cool he has fun with it he'll do he'll do silly things
with it or just like write long explanations or anyway well we can get more into it but
um yeah he has fun with it but it is also very scary he thinks he thinks it's Gonna Change like
everything like yeah it probably will right and I think right now most people are just in
that playing mode where we're just going in and like oh I wonder if it can do this I wonder if it
can do this and I wonder at what point you know because we we've seen with you know for example
with social media with Facebook we saw that you know taken in a bad Direction where you know
the algorithm learned that you want to wanted to kind of news and then it only fed you it put you
in an echo chamber right and that created a lot of fake news it'll it's creating a lot of political
divisions it still is so I think people are with that in mind or on the heels of that so people are
wary now of this next thing what is this going to do right right exactly I mean do you think this is
going to be as big as just like when the internet came about do you think this is like the biggest
thing like a life-changing thing well I think the day the internet came about was a big deal clearly
the internet literally changed so this will probably be the next big shift yeah that's what
I think I mean yeah I think this will be bigger than social media oh you think so yeah I mean
because there's the internet and now ai language models so anyways we want to remind our listeners
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um yeah I mean I I I don't know I guess because Dan is so into this kind of stuff I always he
likes all this sci-fi and did you ever watch the show Westworld I think no I've heard about it
though yeah yeah just like all this future stuff robots and I I I didn't really like the show and
he liked it um so I had to watch it but anyway um so this topic though I'm glad we're going to talk
about this and a listener brought this up to us so this is really a listener question so Jeff Wu
um mentioned that that was a topic he wanted to hear us talk about on the show so we're gonna go
for it so I'm glad that Jeff thank you for bringing this up um and we've been meaning
to talk about it it says it's so huge it's such a great topic and this is such a good topic because
I think Jeff asked for topics you know that we might talk about in the business world but as
human beings and this is a great one you are just as likely to have a conversation like this with
your colleagues at work as you are at a party with your friends so this goes across both environments
which we love that kind of thing because we want you guys to be dynamic and have a robust career
and a robust social life exactly so this is just one of those hot topics of today so we're gonna
talk about it ourselves talk about our opinions and different things and we're also going to show
how you can talk about it um how you can bring it up in conversation so guys also we want to direct
you this is not about chat gbt but it's about the future perfect guys so it's about the future
um Ollie's English episode 1919 is you will have mastered the future perfect English grammar but
mastered future perfect English grammar by the end of this episode so you can also talk about
the future yeah that's a great one to refer to Michelle because our listeners will also need that
grammar right when we open these conversations you'll buy 2030 Our Lives will have changed
profoundly due to chat GDP things like that are things your guys you guys are going to be saying
with your to your friends native speakers exactly so all right so Lindsay what is it for the people
who don't know yeah I see I don't I don't know that much about it I'm not nerding out yet I've
tried it once and I was pretty impressed but then I moved on because I'm so busy but chatp I think
what it is is the next iteration of AI technology where they use the language models right it's a
it's a level smarter than uh like Alexa and or any kind of chat bot where she just goes out she gets
the data on the internet and then she spits it back to you it looks like chat GDP learns faster
and learns more and integrates multiple things from different places that's that's all I know
yeah well so right I mean you can have well well for now I'll just tell you what we've been playing
with or what Tana has been playing with you can have chat gbt answer questions for you for example
we have a trip coming up and he's been using it to plan an upcoming trip so he might say something
like give me an itinerary for four days in Florida and it will give you one and then you might say
modify it and say something like okay now plan it for having a one and a four-year-old or love
that you know like make it more specific so it's different from like yeah you can sometimes I think
well can't you just look the stuff on on Google but this just kind of like puts it in one place
um yeah or or yeah just for fun you can ask it to rewrite a book in the style of a celebrity
so like my kids love this little kids book called Pout-Pout Fish and he'll it's almost
like he doesn't really work I don't know why he's always sending me this stuff during the day but
I'm just joking um so he'll say like oh like have like redo The Pout-Pout Fish in like as done by
Britney Spears or Chris Rock or something like that so it will take like those persons patterns
um you know speech patterns and make the story uh like like for the style of this book
um so there are silly things like that that you can do
um but I mean there are just I mean Lindsay what do you think this means for the future yeah well
convenience for one thing I would love I love the customization that you were just talking
about plan my trip but now plan it for having a one in four year old often I find I need this in
the car Google Max maps is not quite right I want to be able to stay to Google Maps hey uh I I need
I'm driving to New Mexico but on the way I want to see some beautiful scenery and by the way I want
to take back roads and by the way I want to stop for a lunch break and I want the price point of
my lunch to be here that is not something you can do just by Googling when you're driving there's no
way do all of that but that would be amazing so I think it's just gonna make things more convenient
um obviously I don't want humans to stop thinking right that's the big danger I think that what if
we stop thinking and we stop being critical in what we information that we are given from this
robot yeah well that makes me think of like I I've heard stories now of students using it for
um for papers and they just say write me an essay on this I saw I forget I don't know I was
watching the news and somebody was a professor was talking about how their student turned in an essay
and then like they they looked at the essay and then the student told them guess what jet chat
GPT wrote this like just to show that and and he was like he would have never known so that that's
a problem academically how students can use this I mean this is worse than just like you know the
regular plagiarism this is I mean this is hard too because I I guess you could say now rewrite it uh
with like like you can um there was one thing oh we were practicing oh if you were gonna if
you were gonna write a letter to someone about a tough issue like we we were just playing with this
um and then we said okay right uh as if this was happening and that was happening and then we said
okay now make it more casual yeah I'll make it more right now make it more and now make it a
little bit funny yeah and it'll just change it it's wild right it's incredible I've seen that too
um yeah I mean it's so this is you know the reason we're here talking about this today and the reason
Jeff asked about this Michelle is what like what are we gonna get into here because I think our
listeners have heard so much about this we're all unless we're living under a rock you know we've
heard about this in the news we know what's going on more or less or we have a sense but the key
skill today is how do we talk about it in English right right exactly so um well there's tons that
you can bring up in conversations I mean Lindsay do you think this would be appropriate to bring up
a at a party or like when would you talk about this or is this is there a time when it's not
appropriate uh I think yeah if it's a topic that comes up at a party which it has for me in the
last few months or the last six months definitely talk about it you want to know how to open those
questions I'd say ask good questions because if you keep saying the same things that everyone else
is saying people might get bored so ask a unique question something interesting right that's you
what do you think about this how would it handle this how is it going to change this right we want
to be we want to yeah right and that's where you said how is it going to change this that is one of
the you know things I wanted to bring up because you you can talk about different aspects of it
it's not just the overall chat GPT it's like how will it affect different Industries so education
like we said plagiarism yes um tutoring uh travel like how I said planning itineraries medicine is a
huge one like what will the future of medicine be and you know people are gonna lose their jobs over
these kinds of things I mean everything everything can change um yeah from this as well so like just
like the the economy there are many different within this chat GPT umbrella there are many areas
you can talk about so you could cater it to like you know one topic maybe you're already talking
about maybe you're talking about going to the doctor or something with a friend you might end
up saying like yeah and I've heard chat gbt you know like yeah I think one of the most important
things you can do is start to be educated about it and start to kind of learn about it
um yeah look for look for interesting things that you can learn so you can be prepared for these
conversations so just for example we have there was um an article on techexplorer.com February
10 2023 um and it was computer scientist discusses the pros and cons of chat GPT
um and this was from uh Johns Hopkins University so yeah yeah and you know so if you guys want
to look up that one that would be great but like you know it talked about different pros and cons
um and what it will be in you know a few years from now and they talked even about like they
say I quote the car the fridge the washer and how things might end up talking to you so there's just
so much so I would say just really try to try to diverse yourself topic yeah I mean we always say
in language fluency and in IELTS the IELTS exam which Aubrey and Jessica are over at the IELTS
energy podcast the key to the one of the first foundations of connection guys through language
is having information consuming content so that you actually have something interesting to say
because you can have perfect grammar but you can be the most boring person in the world because
you don't consume anything you don't have anything to say okay so I would rather that you have a lot
of interesting ideas and make some mistakes but actually connect okay I totally agree that's a
great Point all right okay Michelle let's get into what our listeners can do here let's go straight
to the value for our listeners all right so yeah let's let's give some Expressions that
our listeners can use or ways that they can break it up in conversations yes okay so Lindsay what's
the first thing you can say all right so what do you think about chat GTP and Michelle where was my
intonation there what do you think about it right so does this have to here's a good question does
this have to happen like after someone else has brought up the topic and someone else has said
their opinion or can I just open that up because the assumption is that everyone is already talking
about this so I'm saying so what do you think because everyone else says in the society said
what they think you know what um yeah yeah yeah yeah I think it's okay to bring it up like this
also you could do the intonation like in this way you could say so what do you think about
chat gbt yeah right you could do that as well you would use the first way definitely if like
like you're saying your opinion and then you want to hear specifically the other person's
opinion perfect well yeah you would you exactly so usually that you what do you think is used in
kind of in combination with the other person when they've already said it kind of the implication if
they haven't said their exact opinion yet and you're opening the topic is that other people
have said their opinion right we're all sharing our opinion so what do you think about this new
chat GTP I think that could also work in that way but usually Michelle that you as emphasized
when you've already heard from the person you're talking to oh yeah I think so too I think so too
um you could also say have you tried chat GPT yet so asking them if they've tried it have they gone
and put in you know played with it what you know and and then you can share what you've done and
things like that yeah or uh here's getting into the details a little more what do you
think the most positive and negative impact will be of chat GTP I see I keep saying GTP
it just feels more natural chat GDP um on the world so this one feels like a slightly more like
academic to the next level yeah yeah this is more of a debate maybe you're co-listening to a podcast
with someone and it comes up and you want to get into a smart argument that's that's where we would
bring this in I would not use this as an opener Michelle at a party right it's too heavy right
right I think like these other questions like oh so what do you think about it and then if they
say oh yeah I don't know have I have you tried it yet oh a little bit blah blah oh what do you think
yeah the most positive impact will be on the world what do you think the most negative impact things
like that exactly let's do one more and then I want to get us to a role play here let's do
it all right so I'm still learning about chat GPT have you been following the news about it have you
been following the news about it right yeah okay so it's another good intro yeah so let's go into a
role play here Michelle are you ready let's do it okay let's do it so what do you think about chat
oh man I have mixed opinions um have you tried it yet yeah I've played around with
it what do you think the most positive impact will be of chat GPT on the world
um well I'm hoping I think healthcare will greatly improve I I hope I think that will
be the main benefit but I don't know you yeah I'm still trying to imagine this whole thing
yeah so another great I mean maybe another episode Michelle we can take a different
angle on this and how to say you are baffled or you're still trying to imagine or you are
confounded by this right so it's a sense of awe and confusion and just not knowing what's ahead
we could we could teach our listeners that another day right well yeah that's good yeah
just to go through it real quick because I know we're kind of running out of time here Michelle
um I started with what do you think about Chad GPT right and then you said have you tried it yet and
then I said what do you think the most positive impact will be of chat GPT on the world and again
that's when we're really getting into this a bit more I didn't I I I left one of them out but yeah
which we use most of the expression but yeah guys this is um this is exciting stuff it's exciting
it's scary and the takeaway is we gave you a background of the Hot Topic we gave you some
of what you know some facts about it some of the things that we've been doing with it and also just
how to talk about it because this is everywhere so also make sure you consume information about
it so that you're able to have those discussions yeah I mean you can count on someone asking you
this question if you're hanging out with native speakers whether it's at work or in your social
life so consume some information start to form some opinions but don't be hard and fast on those
opinions right because you know the opinion that everyone's gonna lose their jobs I I think that
it's more like humans are going to be pulled to do something better like humans hopefully will
be pulled higher be more qualified improve think better and work along with the robots in a way
that's my opinion it has to be that way otherwise it has to be up into the world I don't know it's
it's well it's exciting I guess we'll and years from now we can look back at this conversation
and we can also learn from history this is the last point and then we're getting off the mic we
can alert we can look at the car crash in Detroit in the Rust Belt in the 50s the 60s the 70s right
you can take our connected Communicator course we went to the Russell and interviewed people
that lived in those places where the car boom happened and then it it got destroyed it ended
right and what happened right what did they do how did they react we can learn how to act around
chat dtp by looking at what happened in the Rust Belt that's just one example of a boom in a bust
right very interesting good point Lindsay yes yeah all right well I'm glad we talked about
this thank you again to Jeff for this question all right sounds good Michelle talk soon bye bye
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