>>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
I'M MEGYN KELLY.
IT'S BEEN A BUSY WEEKEND.
WE GOT OUR FIRST GLIMPSE OF
PRINCESS CHARLOTTE WITH HER NEW
LITTLE BROTHER, PRINCE LOUIS.
AND ON THIS SIDE OF THE POND,
AMERICANS SIPPED THE BOURBON TO
CELEBRATE THE KENTUCKY DERBY.
DID YOU WATCH?
I WATCHED IT, TOO.
THE PEOPLE NOT CELEBRATING ARE
OVER AT CBS BECAUSE THE
MANAGEMENT THERE RECEIVED
SERVICE WITH A SEXUAL HARASSMENT
LAWSUIT THAT WE'RE GOING TO
BRING YOU THE LATEST ON.
HERE TO TALK ABOUT ALL OF IT,
NBC CORRESPONDENT STEPHANIE
GOSK.
>> AND FROM --
>> "AMERICA NINJA WARRIOR."
>> MATT IS HERE.
STEPHANIE, LET'S START WITH THE
LAWSUIT AGAINST CBS.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT THE
ACCUSATIONS LAST WEEK.
WE KNEW THIS LAWSUIT WAS
PENDING.
THREE WOMEN, TWO FORMER EMPLOYEE
EMPLOYEES AT CBS AND ONE CURRENT
EMPLOYEE.
AND THEY ACCUSE CHARLIE ROSE OF
INAPPROPRIATE SEXUAL BEHAVIOR.
WHAT'S NEW IS THEY'RE SAYING
THAT CBS NEWS TOOK RETALIATORY
MEASURES AGAINST THEM AFTER THEY
CAME OUT.
THEY ACCUSE THE CURRENT
EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF "CBS THIS
MORNING" AND HIS ASSISTANT,
CHELSEA WEI, ACCUSES HIM OF
AGGRESSIVELY PUSHING IN HER
CHAIR, STARTLING HER,
INTIMIDATING HER.
>> AND NOT HEEDING HER
COMPLAINTS.
SHE BROUGHT A COMPLAINT ABOUT
CHARLIE TO HIM, AND HE DID
NOTHING ABOUT IT, SHE CLAIMS.
>> EXACTLY.
AND CBS DID NOT ADEQUATELY
INVESTIGATE IT.
CBS IS PUSHING BACK, SAYING
THEY'RE GOING TO DEFEND
THEMSELVES IN THIS LAWSUIT.
>> CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION?
JUST BECAUSE IT'S ALLEGED AND A
LAWSUIT DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE.
BUT AS WE DISCUSSED ON FRIDAY,
AT 27 NEW WOMEN HAVE COME OUT
AGAINST CHARLIE ROSE.
27 IN ADDITION TO THE 8 WE KNEW
OF.
HE THOUGHT IT WAS SHARED
FEELINGS.
SHARED FEELINGS, UP TO 35 WOMEN
NOW, OPENING THE DOOR,
ALLEGEDLY, WITH THE BATHROBE,
EXPOSED AND SO ON.
ANOTHER WOMAN SAID SHE WORKED
FOR HIM ON HIS PBS SHOW AND HE
MADE HER UNCLOG HIS TOILET.
THE ALLEGATIONS OF HIS ALLEGED
TREATMENT ARE DISTURBING.
THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU,
WHAT ARE THE NETWORK EXECUTIVES
SAYING?
WE SAW IT AT FOX, NBC, NOW CBS
IS UNDER THE GUN.
IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW, WHY DIDN'T
THEY KNOW?
IF YOU HAVE 35 WOMEN BETWEEN THE
PBS AND THE CBS SHOW, SAYING HE
WAS LIKE THIS, THE QUESTION HAS
TO BE ASKED.
>> THE NEXT QUESTION AFTER THAT
IS, DID WE SOMEHOW ALLOW THIS TO
HAPPEN?
DID WE NUDGE EACH OTHER, WINK AT
EACH OTHER AND SAY, OH, YEAH,
THAT'S JUST CHARLIE ROSE?
OR THAT'S WHAT HE DOES?
AND THINK THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE
HARMFUL.
AS WE TALKED ABOUT OVER AND OVER
AGAIN, FOR MANY YOUNG WOMEN,
THIS IS THE FIRST EXPERIENCE IN
THIS BUSINESS.
IF THAT'S YOUR FIRST EXPERIENCE,
DO YOU STAY ON?
DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO MOVE
FORWARD?
OR DO YOU SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT?
I DON'T THINK I WANT ANY PART OF
THAT.
>> SO MANY HAVE CHOSEN TO LEAVE.
SO MANY HAVE CHOSEN TO LEAVE,
WHICH IS WHY IT'S OFFENSIVE TO
HEAR, THE RUSH TO GET THE MEN
BACK INTO THE BUSINESS.
CHARLIE, BEFORE THIS STORY BROKE
ON FRIDAY FROM "THE WASHINGTON
POST," WITH THE 27 NEW ACCUSERS,
WAS REPORTEDLY DEVELOPING HIS
OWN SERIES WITH MEN WHO HAVE
BEEN REMOVED FROM THE PUBLIC
SQUARE BECAUSE OF SEXUAL
HARASSMENT ALLEGATIONS.
THEN, THE HAMMER DROPS ON HIM.
>> WHO IS GOING TO WATCH THAT
SHOW?
>> ME.
I WILL.
THEN, WE HAVE A FIELD DAY ON
THIS SHOW.
THE RUSH TO REHABILITATE THESE
GUYS, AFTER HOW MANY COUNTLESS
CAREERS HAVE BEEN RUINED BY
THEM?
ME, I'M NOT FEELING THE RUSH.
>> AND WHAT WAS AMAZING, I HAVE
CLOGGED A TOILET, TOO.
THE LAST THING I WOULD DO IS
CALL A WOMAN OVER AND POINT IT
OUT.
>> SERIOUSLY.
>> AND ASK FOR HELP.
>> WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH THEM?
EVERY RESPECTABLE PERSON WOULD
HIDE THAT.
>> IT'S A PERSON WHO FEELS THEY
ARE UNTOUCHABLE AND KNOWS
THEY'RE A MONEYMAKER AND HAS A
FEELING OF BEING PROTECTED.
I THINK IT'S A REFRESHING TURN
FOR THE BUSINESS AND FOR WOMEN
IN THE BUSINESS.
>> MALE-DOMINATED INDUSTRIES.
>> I THINK I SHOULD STEP AWAY
FROM THE TABLE AT THIS POINT.
>> MATT WOULD NEVER DO THAT.
>> YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE
GETTING YOURSELF INTO.
>> I'M BEING DOMINATED HERE,
JUST SO YOU KNOW.
>> AND NUMBER TWO,
MALE-DOMINATED INDUSTRIES.
AND NUMBER TWO, MEN WHO APPEAR
INVINCIBLE OR INDISPENSABLE.
THOSE ARE THE ONES WE'VE SEEN
HAVE GOTTEN IN TROUBLE.
AND THE NETWORK SUPPORTS THAT
INVINCIBLE AURA AROUND THEM.
AND IT LEADS TO TROUBLE.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY IT HAPPENS IN
EVERY CASE, BUT TOO MANY.
WANT TO GIVE YOU A QUICK
STATEMENT FROM CHARLIE ROSE'S
ATTORNEY.
HE SAYS, THE CLAIMS IN THIS
LAWSUIT ARE WITHOUT MERIT.
AND CBS SAYS, SINCE WE
TERMINATED THE GUY, WE WORK TO
STRENGTHEN EXISTING SYSTEMS.
WE TAKE SWIFT ACTION WHEN WE
LEARN OFBEHAVIOR.
WE ARE NOT DONE WITH THIS
PROCESS.
THEY'RE NOT.
CAN I SAY BEFORE WE MOVE ON,
AFTER THE SITUATION BROKE AT FOX
NEWS, I WENT ON A BOOK TOUR AND
I SPOKE TO EVERY NETWORK.
AT ONE POINT I WAS SURE TO MAKE
ON EVERY NETWORK, KNOWING WHAT I
KNOW, I KNEW AT THE TIME IT
WASN'T JUST FOX NEWS, WAS TO
SAY, YOU'RE ALL ON NOTICE RIGHT
NOW.
YOU'RE LOVING THE DOWNFALL FOR
THE MOMENT OF THE FOX NEWS
CHANNEL BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE
ITS POLITICS.
BUT TRUST ME, IT'S NOT JUST FOX
NEWS CHANNEL.
IT'S NOT.
DID ANY OF THE NETWORKS DO
CLEANUP?
NO.
THEY HAD ABOUT A YEAR BETWEEN
THEN AND THE HARVEY WEINSTEIN
STUFF.
AND NOTHING WAS DONE.
HARVEY WEINSTEIN IS WHAT REALLY
GOT THIS BALL ROLLING.
AND IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE A
NETWORK EXECUTIVE WHO HASN'T
DONE ANY INTRASPECTION IN YOUR
FIRM, NOW IS THE TIME.
NOW IS THE TIME.
OKAY.
MEGYN, IT BREAKS MY HEART.
IT BREAKS MY HEART AS SOMEONE IN
THIS BUSINESS FOR 20 YEARS, I
CARE DEEPLY ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
THE YOUNG WOMEN COME IN AND HAVE
THIS ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY FEEL
THEY CAN ACHIEVE.
THEY BRING SO MUCH TO,
PARTICULARLY, NETWORK NEWS BUT
IN ALL INDUSTRIES.
IT'S UPSETTING FOR ME TO THINK
THAT NOW, IN 2018, WE HAVEN'T
MADE MORE PROGRESS ON THIS.
>> I KNOW.
>> HOW CAN THAT BE THE CASE?
>> I THINK PEOPLE WERE HOPING
THE FINGER WOULD NEVER BE
POINTED AT THEM.
YOUR PARENTS ARE SITTING RIGHT
HERE IN THE CROWD.
>> YES, THEY ARE.
MOM AND DAD.
>> SO MUCH IS BEING RAISED AS TO
WHAT'S RIGHT AND THE PEOPLE WHO
ARE CONSISTENTLY TOLD THE RULES
DON'T APPLY TO YOU.
AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE REALIZE THE
RULES APPLY TO EVERYBODY.
>> AND WE LOOK AT CHARLIE ROSE
AND THE '70s, IT WAS THE TIME.
HE WAS RAISED IN A DIFFERENT
ERA.
BALON
BALONEY.
MY HUSBAND'S FATHER, MY FATHER,
WOULD NEVER HAVE DONE THIS, EVEN
THOUGH THEY WERE BORN A LONG
TIME BEFORE.
IT DOESN'T COME DOWN TO CULTURE,
IT COMES DOWN TO THE MAN.
IT HAS TO STOP.
AND WOMEN WHO ARE AFRAID, FINE.
WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS, FIND A
POWERFUL WOMAN WHO YOU CAN TRUST
IN YOUR ORGANIZATION OR A MAN
THAT YOU CAN TRUST AND THEY WILL
HELP YOU.
>> SOMEONE LIKE MEGYN KELLY.
>> YES.
BRING IT ON.
I WAS HERE FOR THE WOMEN AT FOX.
I'M HERE FOR THE WOMEN AT NBC,
IF THEY CHOOSE TO GO THAT ROUTE.
SOMETIMES IT'S EASIER TO TALK TO
SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN THROUGH IT.
IN LIGHTER NEWS, THE ROYALS.
I LOVE THIS PICTURE BECAUSE
EVERY MOM TAKES THIS PICTURE
WHEN YOU HAVE A LITTLE SIBLING
OF THE OLDER SIBLING, KISSING
THE YOUNGER.
HERE'S PRINCE LOUIS AND THERE'S
PRINCESS CHARLOTTE.
AND WHAT EVERYBODY WENT NUTS FOR
IS PRINCE LOUIS IS IN A
HAND-ME-DOWN.
THEY'RE JUST LIKE US.
>> THE ROYAL FAMILY IS CLEARLY
FALLING ON HARD TIMES.
THEY'RE STUCK WITH HAND-ME-DOWNS
JUST LIKE US.
>> I LIVED IN LONDON FOR TEN
YEARS.
WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THIS A LOT.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
LIVE IN THE U.K. WHO THINK, YOU
KNOW WHAT?
THE ROYAL FAMILY GETS TAXPAYER
DOLLARS.
WHY ARE THEY STILL THERE?
WE DON'T HEAR A LOT ABOUT THAT.
BUT WHAT THIS LATEST GENERATION
OF ROYALS HAS DONE, THEY HAVE
ENDEARED THEMSELVES TO THAT
COUNTRY.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS THEY HAVE
IS EXACTLY BECAUSE OF THIS.
BECAUSE PRINCESS KATE SAYS,
LET'S RECYCLE.
IT'S NOT THE CHEAPEST THING, NOT
LIKE THEY GOT THAT BARGAIN
BASEMENT.
BUT SHE WEARS THE SAME CLOTHES
OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AND THEY'RE DRESSES YOU CAN BUY
OFF A RACK.
>> THEY'RE NOT ALL $5,000
FROCKS.
>> SHE TOOK THE PHOTO AND
THEY'RE MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT
THAT.
IT'S NOT AS THOUGH IT WAS -- SHE
WAS LIKE ANSEL ADAMS PUTTING HER
HEAD UNDER A CURTAIN.
SHE JUST USED THE PHONE.
BUT THE FACT THIS WOMAN, A
ROYAL, A PRINCESS, TOOK THE
PICTURE.
>> MOMS EVERYWHERE WERE LIKE --
AND?
>> DID SHE CHANGE THE DIAPERS?