mr. president welcome to the program you are here on your first ung a president
Trump is also making his first address to the to the world you have many areas
of disagreement with the current president amongst them the Iran nuclear
deal where you think that you should stay in it
president Trump has told the UN in his first global speech that this is the
worst deal that he's ever seen in history and that one way or another they
the deal is an embarrassment to the United States and I don't think you've
heard the last of it believe me in a sign that he's preparing to weaken the
deal what do you take from that do you think he's gonna pull out you've spoken
to him about it I helped know and I think it would be a
big mistake I think if Prison III I don't say that
this Iran deal it's a nuclear deal with Iran is the Alpha and Omega of
everything about how to deal with Iran if present rams considers it's not
sufficient I do agree with that we have this deal I think that the outcome of
this deal is that now we have a monitoring process with the
international agency following the situation and I think that it's it's
better than nothing okay why because if we stop with this dough if we just stop
with the nuclear agreement so we will enter into a situation very similar to
the Korean sea to North Korean situation before what happens this summer so I
think it would be a big mistake now this deal has to be completed and probably I
will try to convince President Frank that's the best way to address its
concerns regarding Iran is to work into that direction first we have to work in
order to have a monitoring process on ballistic missiles and ballistic
activity of Iran that's a concern is that a concern for the whole region we
have to work on it and we need a new agreement and we can we can work on
sanctions and agreements on this ballistic side and second we have to
complete the 2015 new their agreement with Iran for the period
past 2025 because this agreement just cover still 2025 the situation but on
the balance it makes the world a safer place to have this nuclear deal
definitely you know you have today some governments not compliant with
international rules and trying to get nuclear weapons that's it that's the
situation we have with North Korea and there's a situation we have with some
other countries okay the more you you contain the situation the more you
monitor is the more you put international agents and you follow the
situation very carefully the more you can intervene and contain their
influence I want to follow this line and I think if we just stop with the deal
because it was a deal negotiated by mr. president Obama I mean it's not a good
reason to stop with the 2015 deal and what about President Trump at this
moment of maximum global crisis over North Korea calling him at the UN
Rocketman talking about destroying you know the capabilities but very very
provocative language look I think what we have to do and what we we need is to
be efficient I think that North Korean president is probably not very sensitive
to what happened to the UN he's not a great client of the city and the United
Nations the guys in his own world my point is not to increase pressure and
words against words what we have to do is to find the appropriate answer to
decrease tension and protect people people in the region and I want to think
of South Korean people living in big anxiety I want to think about so all
region and our Japanese friends friends and I will see a Japanese Prime Minister
during this trip in New York and I think the Hutt's the whole word because we I
mean we speak about a global threat today so for me it's how to decrease the
tension has to contain the North Korean situation and how to
increase the pressure to dis is Khalid do you think there's a military solution
I mean sometimes the president seems to indicate that there's a military
solution to North Korea look at the map if you think there is a military
solution you speak about a lot of victims I do believe in multilateralism
because I do believe in negotiation I do believe in how to control I do believe
in building peace and I think that's what we exactly what we have to do in
this region the president told the United Nations in his speech that he
wants a tougher better deal he's very concerned also about North Korea I spoke
to the Iranian president who says the US will pay if they pull out of this deal
what is your view on that and what have you said to mr. Trump I know you
discussed it last night sure and I discussed successively with President
Trump and president rouhani about this issue first of all our main anxiety
today regarding nuclear weapon is about North Korea and this situation is to be
handled very carefully we have to avoid military answer we have to increase
pressure on North Korea especially coming from China and Russia because
North Korea is very dependent from these two countries and we have to decrease
the pressure and stabilize the situation but North Korea is a very good
illustration of a what-if scenario from nuclear deal with Iran why because we
stopped everything with North Korea years and years ago we stopped any
monitoring any discussions with them and what's the result they will probably get
nuclear weapon so my position for ayrenn deserve a president ramp was to say look
at the situation on North Korea I don't want to replicate the security situation
with Iran let me ask you about how you deal with President Trump because he
says some things in person he says some things on Twitter his ministers say
other things how do you deal with the leader of the free world in this kind of
situation some have described it as kind of chaotic some say they don't quite
know who to listen to what
does president Macomb use to deal with the President of the United States
I have very direct discussions with President Trump I do appreciate him we
have a very good personal relationship and and I have very direct discussion
with them I don't interfere in in domestic poses
and what you describe as interferences or discrepancies between different
members for me there is one voice your presence you elected your present and
and this is the voice I consider and the man icepick with and and it's always the
same thing we we share our views he's very direct and I think I think listen
to what I propose what are the main areas of disagreement right now I think
the very first these disagreements is very well known is about climate and as
president Trump decided to leave Paris agreement I mean that's his choice and I
do respect his choice and he was elected on the basis of such a decision but I do
regret this decision and and I do want to convince him to come back to this
agreement because for me that's the core agreements for climate and I I do
believe that especially after the serie Kings
we just had both in the US and in France we do see the direct consequences of co2
emissions and and all this climate change we have to fight against this
climate change and we need the global mobilization for that so we have a
disagreement on this issue but I will keep pushing we have direct discussion
yesterday we will implement Paris agreement on our own at the French level
but the European level as well we have a strong agreement with the Chinese and
the older pours and I think it's very important to preserve this multilateral
approach and now is that an issue for the u.s. itself to see what they want to
do and what President Trump wants to do with his climate but we have to deal
with that the president says this is a bad deal we can get a better deal it's
bad for the economy it's bad for the climate it's bad for the United States
what do you say when he says that to you I mean first of all it's not bad for the
climate for climate and environment definitely and especially if he decides
to leave it will be worse because the u.s. is a very great contributor in
terms of co2 emission so that's an issue and if you don't fix the situation in
the US you aren't credible to tell the others what they have to do and you have
direct consequences of the situation so no this agreement is not bad for climate
it's wrong on them on them even the short mid and long run is that a good
agreement for the US and for all of us why because it's true that in order to
deal with climate change you will have to change a lot of things in our
economies I mean you will have to stop certain activities regarding fossil
fuels regarding classical industrial activities because we know that they
pollute a lot but you will create new jobs to reduce emissions it means more
innovation more jobs in cleaner sectors which brings me then to the very major
philosophical point that you're making which is continue the historical
relationship continue multilateralism be really part of the world you know
president Trump has said make America great again
he sort of kind of shifts between being part of the world and being you know
protectionist and isolationist what gave you the courage to go against
that trend during your election campaign I remember before the election you said
this is a great moment for France to go in the opposite direction of the
prevailing trends you know take on anti-globalization take on populism what
made you do that and believed that you could win doing that because I know the
outcome of this trend it's wrong I do know the outcome of this turn a tional
ism is all about war we experienced that 80 years ago in Europe so at the end of
the day if if you believe that there is nothing to change this trend and we have
to accept anti-globalization anti materialism problem nationalism what
action ISM and so on it's all about at the end of the day it's all about how to
fight against each other and it's all about war
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