>>> WE ARE BACK WITH TODAY’S TALKER.
TALKER. THE BREAKOUT STAR OF PRINCE
HARRY AND MEGHAN MARKLE’S
WEDDING.
WEDDING. >> THAT’S RIGHT.
ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WATCHED THAT
WILL REMEMBER BISHOP CURRY AND
HIS SPIRITED SERMON ON THE
REDEEMING POWER OF LOVE.
>> WELL, NOW HE HAS A BOOK OUT
FEATURING THAT SERMON AND A FEW
OTHERS.
OTHERS. IT IS CALLED THE POWER OF LOVE.
SERMONS, REFLECTIONS AND WISDOM
TO UP LIFT AND INSPIRE.
AND MICHAEL CURRY IS WITH US.
WHEN YOU COME TO OUR STUDIO,
YOU’RE ALWAYS HAPPY.
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> YOU ALWAYS INSPIRE US AND
LEAVE US FEELING SO POSITIVE,
AND THIS HAS BEEN A HARD WEEK.
>> HARD WEEK, YEAH.
>> WE STARTED IN PITTSBURGH AND
WHAT HAPPENED IN A HOUSE OF
WORSHIP
WORSHIP WORSHIP.
WORSHIP. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> THE RABBI THERE GAVE A TALK
AT A VIGIL THE DAY AFTER.
AND HE SAID HE WAS REALLY HONEST
SAYING, LIKE, THE SCRIPTURES SAY
THE RECORD IS MY SHEPARD, I
SHALL NOT WANT, BUT HE SAID I
WANT THOSE 11 PEOPLE BACK.
HOW DO WE DEAL WITH GRIEF AND
OUR FAITH AND HOW DO THEY
COINCIDE?
COINCIDE? >> WELL, WE DEAL WITH GRIEF
HONESTLY AND FORTHRIGHTLY.
WHEN IT HURTS, IT HURTS.
DON’T PRETEND IT DOESN’T HURT.
THAT RABBI WAS WISE.
WHEN IT HURTS, EVEN TO TELL GOD,
IT HURTS.
IT HURTS. AND I DON’T UNDERSTAND.
THIS DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE.
BUT THE SECOND THING IS DO IT
TOGETHER.
TOGETHER. PART OF THE JEWISH TRADITION IS
YOU NEVER LET SOMEONE, A DEAD
BODY BE BY ITSELF.
WE DO IT TOGETHER BECAUSE
THERE’S SOMETHING ABOUT BEING IN
COMMUNITY WITH EACH OTHER, THAT
I CAN HOLD YOU WHEN YOU CAN’T
HOLD YOURSELF UP, AND YOU CAN
HOLD ME WHEN I CAN’T.
THAT’S PART OF THE POWER, AND
THEN SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO LIVE
WITH THE RITUALS THAT CAN
SUSTAIN US.
SUSTAIN US. WITCH YAL
WITCH YAL RITUALS OF FAITH HAVE BEEN
AROUND A LONG TIME.
THEY’VE BEEN AROUND, AND THEY
HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HOLD US AND
TO PROVIDE A SPACE WHERE GOD’S
ENERGY CAN BEGIN TO MOVE IN AND
AMONG US.
AMONG US. SOME OF THOSE ARE THE WAYS THAT
YOU WALK THROUGH GRIEF, NOT
AVOIDING IT BUT WALK THROUGH IT.
LIVE WITH IT.
AND FIND LIVE AT THE SAME TIME.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS YOU ALWAYS
SAY IS LOVE WINS.
LIKE, LOVE WINS.
YOU GOT A BOOK OUT THAT WE’LL
TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE.
YOU WERE IN A CHURCH YESTERDAY,
AND A QUESTION WAS ASKED, LIKE,
DOES LOVE ALWAYS WIN?
AND WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER TO THAT?
>> IT WAS, I WAS IN ENGLAND IN A
CATHEDRAL, AND ONE OF THE
QUESTIONS WAS CAN THIS WAY OF
LOVE, DOES IT REALLY WORK?
AND THE TRUTH IS NOTHING ELSE
HAS.
HAS. IT IS THE ONLY THING THAT WILL
WORK.
WORK. IF YOU THINK OF LOVE PURELY AS A
SENTIMENTAL THING, AND IT’S
PARTIALLY THAT, THEN IT DOESN’T
MAKE SENSE, BUT IF YOU REALIZE
THAT LOVE CERTAINLY AS JESUS AND
MOSES TAUGHT, LOVE IS ABOUT
UNSELFISH, SELLESS LIVING THAT
SEEKS THE GOOD AND THE WELL
BEING OF OTHERS EVEN SOMETIMES
ABOVE MY OWN SELF-INTEREST.
THAT SELFLESS LIVING UNSELFISH
LIVING IS THE ONLY THING THAT’S
CHANGED THE WORLD FOR THE GOOD.
WHO MADE A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR
LIFE?
LIFE? THEY MADE A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR
LIFE NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE DOING
SOMETHING FOR THEMSELVES BUT
BECAUSE THEY CARED ABOUT YOU.
IT WAS YOU, NOT THEMSELVES.
THINK ABOUT ANY KIND OF SOCIAL
CHANGE THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED IN
HUMAN HISTORY.
HUMAN HISTORY. IT HAS BEEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN
THINKING ABOUT MORE THAN SELF.
WHO HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT
OTHERS.
OTHERS. THINK ABOUT FIRST RESPONDERS.
THEY DON’T KNOW WHO THEY’RE
GOING IN TO HELP, BUT THEY DO IT
BECAUSE IT’S SELFLESS.
THE TRUTH IS NOTHING -- NO GOOD
CREATED AND DONE BY HUMAN BEINGS
HAS EVER BEEN DONE FROM THE
MOTIVATION OF SELFISHNESS.
IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN SELFLESS
SERVICE AND GIVING WHICH IS WHAT
LOVE ACTUALLY IS.
>> TRANSFORMING FOR THE GIVER OF
SELF SACRIFICIAL LOVER AND FOR
THE RECEIVER.
THE RECEIVER. YOU WRITE IN YOUR BOOK THE
OPPOSITE OF LOVE ISN’T HATE.
>> IT’S SELF-CENTEREDNESS.
AND HATE IS A DERIVATIVE OF
THAT.
THAT. AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT
DOES MAKE SENSE.
IF LOVE IS SELF-GIVING,
SELFLESSNESS, A WILLINGNESS TO
GIVE AND NOT TO COUNT THE COST,
THE WILLINGNESS TO DO THAT, THE
OPPOSITE OF LOVE REALLY IS
SELF-CENTEREDNESS.
SELF-CENTEREDNESS. AND THE TRUTH IS, IT DOESN’T
WORK.
WORK. SELF-CENTEREDNESS DOESN’T WORK
OVER THE LONG HALL BECAUSE THE
TRUTH IS IF WE ALL LIVE A
SELF-CENTERED EXISTENCE, I’M THE
CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE AND
YOU’RE EXPENDABLE.
YOU’RE EXPENDABLE. IF WE ALL LIVE THAT WAY, YOU
DON’T EVEN HAVE A SOCIETY.
DEMOCRACY DEPENDS ON THAT.
HUMAN SURVIVAL IN LIFE ON THIS
PLANET DEPENDS ON OUR CAPACITY
TO BE UNSELFISH, TO BE SELFLESS
AND GIVING.
AND GIVING. AND THE MIRACLE IS THAT WHEN WE
DO THAT, WE ACTUALLY GET BLESSED
OURSELVES.
OURSELVES. >> WE DO.
>> WE DO. >> WE ACTUALLY DO.
>> YOU ARE ALWAYS A BLESSING TO
US WHEN YOU’RE HERE, BISHOP
CURRY.
CURRY. >> YOU GUYS ARE A BLESSING.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
HIS BOOK IS CALLED "THE POWER OF