[CHEERS, APPLAUSE]
JIMMY KIMMEL: I see that you're already making positive change.
ELIZABETH WARREN: There you go.
JIMMY KIMMEL: How are you handling the coronavirus?
You must shake a million hands every day.
ELIZABETH WARREN: True. JIMMY KIMMEL: Yeah.
ELIZABETH WARREN: But you know, actually,
this is a moment to be serious.
JIMMY KIMMEL: OK.
ELIZABETH WARREN: Because this really is a threat,
and we need to take some action, and we need
to start taking it right now.
I put out another--
I've been putting out plans on this for a while now.
But we need to guarantee everyone
who wants to get tested for the coronavirus,
you can get tested for free.
When the vaccine comes out, we need to make it for free.
We need to set aside money so anyone who gets quarantined
will have their paychecks reimbursed.
All of those are things that make all of us safer.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Yeah.
ELIZABETH WARREN: And we need to think
and start working right now on the economic fallout from this.
Supply chains were already being interrupted.
Can't get materials that come in from China for drugs.
Can't get parts for manufacturing here.
That's gonna echo through our economy.
It's gonna go through Europe's economy
and bounce back through ours.
We need to start with a stimulus bill now,
and we need to tell the Fed to open up the window, to lend
to companies that need help making it past a rough patch
if they agree not to lay people off.
We need to at least minimize both the health consequences
and the economic consequences.
JIMMY KIMMEL: But Donald Trump says
everybody is getting better, everything's getting better.
[LAUGHTER]
ELIZABETH WARREN: That's true.
That is what he said.
But this really is about leadership.
And it's why, when serious problems come,
you can't just have a guy who believes
in magic as the President of the United States.
It's a real problem.
JIMMY KIMMEL: I don't think he even believes in that.
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ELIZABETH WARREN: Oh, come on--
the things he says about himself,
he must believe in magic.
[LAUGHING]
JIMMY KIMMEL: Over the last 48 hours,
two of your major rivals and Tom Steyer dropped out of the race.
ELIZABETH WARREN: Yeah.
JIMMY KIMMEL: So how do you how do you find
out that they're dropping out?
Are you guys on a group, like, text?
Is there-- does somebody text you a ghost emoji
when they're dropping out?
How does it work?
ELIZABETH WARREN: Actually I talked to Amy right
while it was happening today.
We've stayed in close touch.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Mm-hmm.
ELIZABETH WARREN: Pete and I exchanged messages.
Tom and I talked right after.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Were you were disappointed that they
endorsed Joe Biden and not you?
ELIZABETH WARREN: You know, look, I recognize everybody
sees this differently.
And I'm somebody who's just kind of not
the same who's in this race.
You know, you started out, actually, you mentioned it
when you introduced me.
I'm not somebody who looked in a mirror when I was 14 and said,
mm.
Future president.
[LAUGHTER]
I'm somebody who looked in a mirror when I was seven,
and said, (ENTHUSIASTICALLY) future public school teacher--
yes!
JIMMY KIMMEL: Mm-hmm.
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ELIZABETH WARREN: That was my goal.
And it was-- it's kind of one thing led to another.
I've spent all my life in teaching
and all of my life around, kind of, this central question
in law school, where I've taught,
about what's happening to America's middle class.
Why is it being hollowed out?
What's happening to working families across this country?
Why is it that people who work every bit as hard as my mom
and dad worked two generations ago find the path today so much
rockier and so much steeper-- and, for people of color,
even rockier and even steeper?
And this is a fundamental issue about whose
side government is on.
And that's what drew me into this race.
I never thought I'd be in electoral politics.
So you know, 10 years ago, I'm still in the classroom,
and I would talk about--
JIMMY KIMMEL: 10 years ago, really?
Wow.
ELIZABETH WARREN: --yeah, what was broken,
and what we could do to fix it.
And tens of people heard what I had to say.
[LAUGHTER]
Reacted to it.
And now, man, I'm running for president of the United States.
JIMMY KIMMEL: You are running for president.
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Mayor Bloomberg is-- Mayor Bloomberg
is also running for president.
ELIZABETH WARREN: I've heard that.
JIMMY KIMMEL: It seems like you don't like him that much.
ELIZABETH WARREN: True.
But it's not-- it's not personal.
It's just everything about it.
[LAUGHTER]
Here's this guy who makes a bazillion dollars and says,
well, that must mean that he's qualified to be president
of the United States, and then thinks he can run for president
when he's got a record of embracing racist policies,
when he hides his taxes. Does any of this sound familiar?
JIMMY KIMMEL: In fairness to him,
though, he does look at the White House and go, well,
there's one in there right now.
ELIZABETH WARREN: Yeah. but that's
not the test for a Democrat. JIMMY KIMMEL: [LAUGHS] Yeah.
ELIZABETH WARREN: And that he thought
that he could run for president at a time
when he has a lot of charges against him
for discrimination, for--
JIMMY KIMMEL: Oh, you roasted him at that debate.
I mean, that was like--
that was like-- it was like a Comedy Central roast.
You really did-- at any point, did you think-- did you
have any inkling of a thought that, boy, when this guy's out,
he's gonna start handing out money to all the campaigns,
and maybe I should be a little bit nice?
ELIZABETH WARREN: Nope.
JIMMY KIMMEL: No, you did not?
ELIZABETH WARREN: Nope.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Afterwards, did you
speak to him after afterwards?
ELIZABETH WARREN: Yeah. JIMMY KIMMEL: You did, yes?
ELIZABETH WARREN: Briefly, yeah.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Yeah, and was he mad?
ELIZABETH WARREN: I don't-- he's a very controlled person.
And we spoke about the fact that I was
born and raised in Oklahoma. JIMMY KIMMEL: Mm-hmm.
ELIZABETH WARREN: And he is spending
lots of money in Oklahoma. JIMMY KIMMEL: I see, yes, yeah.
ELIZABETH WARREN: On his presidential campaign.
JIMMY KIMMEL: And everywhere, really.
He's-- yes, the local TV networks absolutely love him.
ELIZABETH WARREN: You know, but this is really scary.
He's spent somewhere approaching a 1/2 a billion
dollars to buy his way--
JIMMY KIMMEL: He could given that to you
if you weren't so mean to him. ELIZABETH WARREN: No!
[LAUGHTER] JIMMY KIMMEL: Yes.
ELIZABETH WARREN: Onto that debate stage.
But it raises this fundamental question--
are we going to be a Democratic Party where the only way you
get to be the nominee is you either are a billionaire
or you go spend 70% of your time sucking up to the billionaires.
JIMMY KIMMEL: It is a huge flaw. It really is.
ELIZABETH WARREN: It is.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Unquestionably a huge flaw.
ELIZABETH WARREN: You know, it's part of the reason,
when I got into this race, it was not only
who I'd be fighting for-- it's what
I've been doing all my life--
but it was also how.
I made the decision from the beginning I was going to do
this with grassroots funding.
If you think that's the right way to do it,
go to elizabethwarren.com and pitch in 5 bucks.
But this is really our democracy that hangs in the balance.
JIMMY KIMMEL: But you are accepting
PAC money, correct, now?
ELIZABETH WARREN: So I asked from the very beginning,
first day in this, let's keep all the Super PACs--
that's what you mean-- the Super PACs out of this,
the unlimited spending.
Do you know how many candidates agreed to go along with that?
None of them.
And I asked over, and over, and over.
Now, to be fair, it's, Super PACs
plus Michael Bloomberg, who is a walking, talking Super PAC.
I mean, no, he is.
His sock drawer is a Super PAC-- you know,
the loose change from the back.
JIMMY KIMMEL: [LAUGHS] And he's giving
you nothing when he's out--
I mean, when he goes.
ELIZABETH WARREN: That's OK with me.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Yeah.
ELIZABETH WARREN: You know, but here's the thing.
If we're gonna have unlimited spending in our races,
that just fundamentally changes our democracy.
And we could stop it tonight.
You know, I did my 2012 race.
I had a deal with my Republican counterpart
that we would keep all Super PAC money out of the race.
And by golly, we did it.
But it takes everybody agreeing to do it.
And that's why I think it should work.
JIMMY KIMMEL: So tomorrow is Super Tuesday, as we call it.
ELIZABETH WARREN: Yes, it is! 70% of all the--
I mean, 40% of all the delegates.
JIMMY KIMMEL: I will tell ya, the conversation that I've had
with people over and over and over again,
where people seem to think I know something--
which I don't--
is they wanna know, you know, do I vote for the person
that I like and think would be the best president,
or do I vote for the person who I
think could beat Donald Trump?
And for a lot of people, they think those are two or maybe
even four different people.
What do you say to people who are in that state of mind right
now and going to vote tomorrow?
ELIZABETH WARREN: So I think number one is,
you have to vote for the person you
think will make the best president
of the United States, period.
I think that is--
I think that's people's sacred obligation.
But I also believe those things don't diverge--
that over time, as more comes out about people,
the person who will make the best president
is also the person who's got the best
chance of beating Donald Trump.
Because here's the thing--
it's gonna take standing up against Donald Trump, you bet.
But it's also gonna take talking about our affirmative vision
of the kind of America we want to be.
Do we just wanna say, hey, look, just get rid of Donald Trump
and we'll go back to the way things were before?
No.
We have this opportunity, this amazing opportunity in 2020,
to fix a lot of what's been broken
for a long time in this country and to take on questions
like racial justice, and economic justice,
and environmental justice, and social justice.
We have this opportunity to build a nation where
every person has value and where every child is
worth investing in.
And I believe that's how we build a future in this country.
And I think that's also how we beat Donald Trump.
[APPLAUSE, CHEERING]
JIMMY KIMMEL: Senator Elizabeth Warren.
We'll be right back after this.
We're back with Senator Elizabeth Warren.
Freddy Highmore and Tame Impala on the way.
Daylight savings is this weekend.
What is your take on that?
Because I'll tell you something--
this is the bad one where my son gets up, like, at 5:00 o'clock
in the morning.
You could win a lot of votes from a lot of parents
if you were to get rid of this thing.
ELIZABETH WARREN: [LAUGHS] OK, done.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Done? OK, good.
Wow, that is--
[CHEERS, APPLAUSE]
You know, I feel like I don't know that much
about your husband, your husband Bruce,
who is a professor as well.
ELIZABETH WARREN: Oh, he's a sweetie.
[CROWD AWWS] Uh-huh.
He really is.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Has he--
have you guys had conversations about, like, I mean, obviously,
we wouldn't have a First Lady Bruce.
He would have to be the First Man or something.
ELIZABETH WARREN: Yeah, his name is Bruce Mann.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Oh, Bruce Mann.
So the First--
ELIZABETH WARREN: Mann with two Ns.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Mann with two Ns.
ELIZABETH WARREN: Yeah, that's right.
JIMMY KIMMEL: [LAUGHS] ELIZABETH WARREN: That's right.
You know, I have to say this.
Bruce is not my first husband.
It took me a couple of bites at the apple.
JIMMY KIMMEL: What? This isn't--
[LAUGHTER]
ELIZABETH WARREN: But once you find the right one, hang on.
He is the perfect husband for me,
and because whatever I want to do in, like, these,
I've gotta be in this fight, he's
just 100% in to try to help.
And so when people kid him about,
you know, you'd be the first man,
and he gets invited to things, and people make jokes
about this, he's like, OK.
JIMMY KIMMEL: He likes it.
ELIZABETH WARREN: This-- no, I didn't say that.
[LAUGHTER]
I said he's like, good.
If this is part of what helps, then he's glad to do it.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Do you know, do you have a person in mind--
and I know it's not something you'd probably share-- but do
you have a person in mind that you
feel like, this is who I would want to be my running mate?
ELIZABETH WARREN: Yes. JIMMY KIMMEL: You do?
ELIZABETH WARREN: Mm-hmm, but I'm not telling.
JIMMY KIMMEL: OK.
Do you think maybe--
I feel like it would be wise to reveal those names,
because I think it could be something
that gets people excited.
ELIZABETH WARREN: You might be right about that.
On the other hand, think of all those people who think
I'm thinking of their name.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Oh, yeah.
[LAUGHTER, APPLAUSE]
I have another theory. ELIZABETH WARREN: Uh-huh?
JIMMY KIMMEL: Someone you've been spending a lot of time
with on the campaign trail.
If you were to name your dog Bailey, your running mate,
I think America would love--
absolutely love it.
Have you considered-- listen, Donald
Trump got a pet for a running.
Maybe you could do the same thing.
[LAUGHTER]
ELIZABETH WARREN: You know, Bailey
is running for first dog.
JIMMY KIMMEL: OK.
ELIZABETH WARREN: He is ready to have
a dog back in the White House.
He's working on his issues that he wants
to be able to put out there.
JIMMY KIMMEL: I have another running
main idea for you, a real one. Here we go- Lizzo.
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Wouldn't that be great?
ELIZABETH WARREN: Yep!
JIMMY KIMMEL: The music would be great.
ELIZABETH WARREN: Yes, It would be.
JIMMY KIMMEL: She plays the flute.
ELIZABETH WARREN: Yep. She also has moves!
JIMMY KIMMEL: Is she's one of the people you're thinking of?
ELIZABETH WARREN: [LAUGHS] JIMMY KIMMEL: She is.
OK, good.
I actually-- we've done this with several candidates,
and I feel it's only fair that we made some merch for you
as well. ELIZABETH WARREN: Oh, good.
JIMMY KIMMEL: So these are--
I know it's-- you know, it's late in the game, but--
[LAUGHTER, APPLAUSE]
Takin' care of Lizness.
That's yours.
ELIZABETH WARREN: Uh-huh, takin' care, and we
can make it a whole song.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Yeah, well, it already is one, yeah.
ELIZABETH WARREN: I like it.
JIMMY KIMMEL: "Warren G," like original gangsta!
ELIZABETH WARREN: Whoa
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JIMMY KIMMEL: And we've got a tote which you must have
in order to be--
"Vote for Liz-- She's the Shiz!"
[LAUGHTER, APPLAUSe]
Nice? ELIZABETH WARREN: I like it.
JIMMY KIMMEL: I'll pack this all up and--
[LAUGHS] ELIZABETH WARREN: Thank you.
I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful.
JIMMY KIMMEL: So tomorrow's the big day.
ELIZABETH WARREN: Yep.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Is everything riding on tomorrow?
ELIZABETH WARREN: You know, for me, it's
about having built this whole movement
all across the country.
So tomorrow's a big day.
40% of the delegates are up for grabs.
This race is obviously very fluid at this point.
People were out and so on.
But like I was saying earlier, this chance to get out and talk
to people across this country about what they face
every day-- you know, a big part of it for me
has been selfie lines.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Where you get to talk individually with people?
ELIZABETH WARREN: That's right.
And we've now done well over 100,000 selfies.
And a lot of 'em are just fun.
A lot of them are just, you know, people giggle,
and people make funny faces.
And, oh, you watch family dynamics.
No, stand over there!
And you know, as people do that.
[CHUCKLING]
But they're also the ones where somebody comes through,
and the little girl's adorable, and she passes on through,
and the mom gives me a hug and says,
please hang on to health care.
She has brain cancer.
Someone will say to me, I have student loans,
and you are my last hope.
I am never gonna get out of this hole in my whole life.
JIMMY KIMMEL: And then you say, the other one has brain cancer.
Never mind you and your student loans.
ELIZABETH WARREN: It's that about every--
I don't know, about 20th person.
It's all fun, and then someone--
it's almost like a knife between the ribs
because it is so painful.
They so much need a government on their side.
They're not asking for a handout.
They're just asking for a government that's on their side
instead of on the side of the billionaires who don't want
to pay a fair share in taxes, instead
of on the side of the giant corporations that
just keep rigging the rules in their favor.
And that's what 2020 is all about.
It's not just Donald Trump.
2020 is about how we see our commitment to each other.
2020 it's about how we use the tool of government,
not to just lift up those who've already been lifted so high,
but how we use the tool of government
to invest and lift up all voices in this country.
We have such an opportunity.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Well, thank you for being here.
ELIZABETH WARREN: I just want us to take it.
JIMMY KIMMEL: Well, and she wants your vote.
Oh. [CHEERS, APPLAUSE]
Senator Elizabeth Warren, thank you for being here.
We'll be back with Freddie Highmore.