... the ... new stuff there at the beest live I'm Simon Constable ... the plump signals
take away the acceptance of gay priests was that mean for the future of the Catholic Church
... and why the change let's ask an ex but that's Fordham University professor of Catholic
theology Terrence Tilley joining us again ... in fact for recent visit by Simon Benitez's
up the to ... do ... so ... popular trend ... aam ... wanted to accomplish kids and
... I think the trip accomplished ... the ... focus on the pastoral ... on the focus
on personal relationships and a move away from making abstract principles Sentra ... compact
and one of those abstract principles ... to to to many people was the ... the son of a
... good attitude towards ... gay people get Greyson is the great part of who who might've
Jessica across the Goodwill who seeks to will ... become one slice these people ... and
that's been the view awful lot of people a long time but not the outcome of the Vatican
and ... no ... it has come out that every person has human dignity and deserves ... respect
and civil rights and that includes the lesbian vocal cords ... but what's different here
is not a change in doctrine but the main application of doctrine ... you can be doctrinaire ... for
you can be merciful and generous ... and what we're seeing is that as he's working with
people rather than ... only with principles ... he's becoming ... much more generous ... much
more pastoral ... and ... the principles contained don't change but you how you will play the
... leaks all the difference and I mean the soon to be making a lot of friends Summly
um up on my own eyes of a Congregational prices a lot of people showed up for ... his last
mass a aam ... the thought control the sea and it shows how does that how does this change
this about is to change that ... the changes and in that people will be looking and how
he deals with people ... and how he deals ... with issues so it's going to be a difference
Dio ... a different approach ... and that makes some people very happy and some people
very unhappy the review the doctor there will be on Happy and the people who ... were in
favor of mercy will be a will that that will be happy or not I mean it is implemented against
people all of these most people are touched on board otherwise get pushed back right ... I
think that's right ... and what he will get on board ... is probably eighty percent ... because
the church at least in the United States has to be divided fifteen to twenty percent very
conservative fifteen to twenty percent very liberal ... and then I'll mobile lunch in
the middle ... to ... now ... that that the Deco mindset I'm and that the bank is an indication
back economy Last Road Map ... Rios awesome changes may be in their thoughts about the
way ... the church will ... be one ... he said we don't have an adequate theology of
women ... you just heard the Pope admits that he doesn't know something roam doesn't have
all the answers ... that's an interesting thing to hear ... he also said that we have
to use ... the enable women to work better in the church ... and that's something that's
... been nice to hear as well ... he also was willing to look at whether ... we married
people ... after divorce ... and remarriage can receive the sacraments is in an absolute
BAM BAM on that there are some of them ... then there is an insult ... on the principles he's
not changing ... but on the practice remains ... one of things that people notice that
he's calling for dialogue between the rich and the port between the people who run the
nation and the people who are oppressed ... and that's really important ... to engage in dialogue
means that you have to enable the people ... who know heck did we have no place ... to be have
the where with all the talk so he's not backing off say Benedict the sixteenth call for redistribution
of wealth now what one of things we sort of a few years ago was that of the cap from Cavite
to set aside that if if you are a ... priest within the Church of England's of the Episcopal
Church or you could bring you'll you'll you'll kill the wife and you'll ... accommodation
with the number to cheat and be with the aim of ... the ... of the Roman Church ... is
this ... up to an extension of ANA's cunning get people back in the Chechen signed last
week of the morning clue says Robin saying no no no ... I think that's exactly right
we have to stop saying no no no he was also asked on the plane why he didn't talk about
you know abortion and ... those search of issues that the Church's position on this
is very clear ... watch the tough talk and I did this I wanna talk cause of that so it's
a it's a focus upon the Vatican and using eighty percent of people going to go along
with this within the church ... to save money and more people just brush them ... I think
... that's what we're going to have to wait and see ... people will start moving in ... with
that they will stay and