The first time that Devon and I kissed--
- No! That's part of the game! Hold on! Hold on! Stop!
Stop! Stop! That's part of the game! Hold up!
This is absurd.
One of the Mario Brothers. [laughing]
Would we ever date each other again? Lindsey?
Yes.
I'm flattered. I just want to stay friends.
[everyone] I don't want to go out with you.
Hey, I'm Lindsey Shaw.
You may know me as Moze from
[everyone] Moze!
I forgot to tell you guys, I took cooking instead of art.
[gasping]
And I am Devon Werkheiser AKA Ned Bigby.
This won't be so bad.
I mean, what's the worst that can happen?
And today we're getting real with
But if we decide not to answer a question,
there will be a price to pay
- Emotional shame. - Exactly.
[music playing]
What- What has it been like 12 years?
Yeah, it's been, ah, ages.
It's been ages. [laughing]
Okay, let's play this game.
There's a list of questions we're going to go through them.
If there's any questions
we don't want to answer, there's a consequence.
- And... - What?
...we shall see what those are, some kind of funny,
- uh, shame inducing-- - Please don't put another hex
on me. That- that- that just wore off.
Work your glappy gloopy magic.
Question one: What's something you're horrible at?
Relationships...
[laughing]
...of all kinds.
Relationships to me are commodified,
uh, monetized or um, exploited.
I have worked on that.
So, um, Devon, what's one thing that you're horrible at?
I'm good at everything.
[laughing] Devon. Devon. Devon.
- Okay. Okay. Uh. - Devon.
[laughing]
Hey, hey, we love that though.
Honestly, I'm pretty horrible at anything tech related.
I'm an old person in that regard.
I grew up with technology, but I-I still-
I feel like a grandpa when I- I'm just like, I don't-
Is this the button I press? And do I do this?
And what's the password? And how do I do it?
Both my roommates are tech wizards,
so I can- I can exist in the world.
Having a friend who's half man, half machine
does have its advantages.
I-I think I'm more of, ah, a child of the earth,
you know, bare feet and in the grass.
You know what I'm saying?
Next question, I'm going to ask it.
Ask away.
Do you have... a secret talent?
And... what is it?
A secret talent?
I can kind of do a mouth trumpet pretty well.
- What? - You ready? Okay.
[trumpeting]
I felt the soul in that.
I thought that that was going to be
way less cool than that was.
I wish we could have a talent show
where kids could do whatever they wanted.
[tapping]
I don't have any hidden talent, like I can ride a unicycle.
It- It's not overly hidden, but it is an incredible talent
of yours is your, uh, flexibility
and your- your yoga prowess.
Like I've seen that. I can't touch my toes.
I can't. I can't do it. My flexibility
- is- is not- is not there. - I know, I know. I know.
And honestly with, like, two lessons yo, I would like...
I don't know, it's just having the right teacher.
I had such a guru in Arizona. I really needed her.
- But yeah... - Yeah.
...it's- it's a blessing for sure.
But it is talent,
so don't be afraid to express yourself.
And most importantly, have fun.
How did your real lives
differ from the characters you played on screen?
And how were they the same?
Um.
Or you accept a consequence.
Or you can just skip it and- and do a consequence.
I feel like this is a really boring question
to accept a consequence on.
Or should I accept the consequence...
- There's no judgment, it's-- - ...so we spice it up?
You- You want me to spicy?
- Well, then spice it up. - Sp- Spice?
I choose the- I choose the plank.
You chose not to answer that question.
So you have to do a consequence,
which is dance without laughing for 15 seconds.
Can somebody set a timer for me?
Yeah, I-I got it.
Ready and go!
[music playing]
Ooh, ooh.
[music playing]
Liberate yourself.
[music playing]
15 seconds!
You nailed it.
Big fan. Big fan of those moves.
- Very fluid, very loose. - Yep. Yep.
Very free.
I was letting the spirits guide me.
Let's go shake it on the dance floor
like good girls do when bad boys are around.
Then let me ask you, Devon, what were the similarities
and differences between you and your character, Ned Bigby?
Ah, I mean I feel like I was pretty Ned-like.
And I've honestly grown up to- to be pretty aligned
to what Ned's about. Ned's whole thing was like,
"I know what we're going through is confusing, is difficult,
but we're going to get through it together.
And like, here's some ways that we can maybe do it better."
And I-I feel pretty, pretty aligned to that,
to that message throughout my life.
Next question!
Who was the worst person to be on set with, Lindsey Shaw?
Worst person to be on set with?
[laughing]
I don't think I want to answer that.
'Cause I don't even think I want to think about that.
I don't know that I want to answer.
There wasn't any worst person to be on set with.
I'm going to tell you, the person that I- that I-
that I- little girl hated the most one day on set
was actually our school teacher who turned out to be
a great male role model in all of our lives.
- And he was an exceptional. - What? What?
- He was fun. - Exceptional teacher.
He like prepared smoothies for us every day.
He made things funny, like, but still kept, like, order.
He was great, right?
But I was feeling particularly rowdy one day
and I went into the school room
and- and- dude, he warned me not to do it,
and I straight up while Devon was like kneeled in his chair,
I pantsed that mo.
[laughing]
And Scott looked at me like, "Get out of the room."
And he said that, and I'm like, "No".
And he's like, "No, go your room."
And I was like... [gasping]
Oh!
It was worth it but...
He- He grounded- He grounded you.
...it was so embarrassing. That was the worst.
I'm the teacher and what I say goes.
The worst person to be around with on set. I...
yeah, I don't think I want to answer that.
Not because there's not a worse person
to be around with on set.
But I don't even want to sort through those memories
and name someone the worst to be around.
So give me a consequence, Lindsey.
This is what I want.
I want to show me your best yoga move.
Yep.
I don't even know what that means.
- Yep. - I don't have best yoga moves.
I don't yoga.
Hey. Hey. Hey. Why don't you do standing,
just to a standing one?
Hold on. Just- just get- just get ready.
I'm gonna do a little flow, okay?
[screaming]
I'm going to show you my flat back. Okay?
Hunny!
Okay, so this is a flow. He's forward folding.
He comes up heart forward, elongates, he comes back.
He's steps back into plank.
Oh, no. He goes up.
- I dropped my AirPod. - That's a sun salutation.
He brings all the sun and energy into his heart.
All the sun and energy into his heart.
And he bends at the hips and goes back towards the earth.
I dropped my AirPods, I can't hear you.
I am so proud of you, baby boo.
Honestly, during the pandemic, I did more yoga
than I've ever done in my life,
and I've been off it for a little bit now.
But... But I learned some things.
[chuckles]
That's why I'm here to learn about this stuff.
I knew this stuff in kindergarten
while you're picking your nose and eating it,
you water neutrino.
Give me that next question. Yeah.
Ooh. What is something that you did on set
that you shouldn't have?
Should is a really loaded word here, alright?
Because everything we did, we absolutely should have done.
But did we get in trouble for it?
No matter what version of it we created?
Yes. And the thing that we did was at lunch, we played.
We started playing Dodgeball, and then the adults got into it,
and then the whole crew got into it.
And we were all playing Dodgeball together.
And then an AD hit one of the children actors
in the face with a dodgeball
so hard that the texture of the rubber ball
was on half of her face and she had to film
- after lunch. - Who was it?
Michelle Kim.
[laughing]
Michelle Kim got hit in the face so hard with a dodgeball
that half of her face was red, had the texture of the ball
and was like swollen. Ah, so that killed Dodgeball.
It was the last time we played Dodgeball.
I was in the zone.
I was hitting everything in sight.
That's when it all went wrong.
[screaming]
What's something that you did on set that you shouldn't have?
There's nothing on set that I shouldn't have done.
Everything was... [laughing]
...safe and okay there.
I remember crying really hard when I- when- when-
some- somebody else's grandpa died.
I shouldn't have taken that so personally, like who cares,
it's not my grandpa,
but it made me really sad. [laughing]
[laughing]
Hey. We need something to cheer us up.
Next question: When did you start dating?
And who asked who out?
Um, I liked Devon from that first time
I saw him on the round couches
during our callback thing because I was just like,
"What the heck, like, this dude is like-"
He was in this position of power where he was number one.
And I was like, "Okay",
and it was just such an experience to go through
with you. Like it was such an intimate time
in both of our lives.
So, how's the reading going?
We're half way there. But honestly,
who cares about Magic Pants?
Too bad you're not in the Violet Book Club.
That's what we're discussing today.
When did we start dating?
That was not until the third season,
and I- I remember the Wednesday on my couch
and we kissed as Lindsey and Devon.
And I swear to God, that was like...
- ...oh my God. - It was beautiful.
Yeah, yeah, it was like angels sang.
It was so beautiful.
We started dating the last season of Ned's.
- It was on a Wednesday. - But we were s-
we were so close... throughout all of Ned's.
It was perfect, and I remember
we walked back into the school room.
And the first thing our teacher said to us was, "What happened?"
Uh! I forgot that! Of course, he knew. He's an adult
and we probably walked in like...
He knew immediately. That's how in touch
- this dude was. - We probably were like...
[laughing]
And- and asked- who asked who out?
It wasn't even like that, like it was like- it was like...
It was just like the--
The feelings had reached the threshold
and it was time to give in.
It was time to open up into them.
- Yeah. - And love each other.
Um-hmm.
So maybe, we should go out, you know, boyfriend, girlfriend,
more than friends.
Hand holding, talking all night,
heart shaped candies on Valentine's Day?
I'm ready if you are.
Bring it on.
What was it like dating
while we were working together, Lindsey?
[sighing] Honestly...
- Honestly, I'm gonna say... - It was over.
I'm gonna say, it was great
because at the time in the show, like, we were building up into
Ned and Moze getting together. It was the last season of Ned's.
So, and we knew it was the last season.
If the show was going to continue
it was going to be a new show for high school.
And Nickelodeon never picked it up.
So, like, we kind of knew it was the end.
And literally in the story, we're ramping up that Ned
and Moze are getting together.
And he's like, oh, my gosh,
just paralleling our actual lives.
- And it's like oh! - I know!
It was so cute!
It was beautiful, too, because for me,
it was like, I don't know it was my first-
You were my first love. It was my first any-
it was my first, like, it was the beginning of that love,
like, opening up as t-- hormonal teenagers
after being friends for so long.
And then we're telling the story
of the characters doing that as well.
Honestly, it was like perfection. It was beautiful.
I told the story of the lunches that we would go play at lunch.
Once Lindsey and I started dating,
then we would just go make out at lunch.
Oh, my gosh.
- That was great. - It was great.
The- the makeup artists always had to-
- had to redo it after lunch. - Oh, my God.
[laughing]
[sirens blaring]
Is it me or is it hot in here?
Maybe.
I think I'm taking a consequence on this.
Why did we break up?
I don't think I wanna talk about any of that.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I take that all the way back.
We broke up because it was time.
- And... - Yeah.
we had served our purpose with one another.
We were growing in a different way.
Yeah, we were-- It was our first love.
That's not ever meant to last.
We were- It was- Yeah, it was time.
- Next question! - Next question!
- Who's-- - Who's the better kisser?
- Whose the better kisser? - Devon, go ahead and answer.
Go ahead and answer, Lindsey.
Let's do it at the same time. Three, two, one.
- Me. - Me.
Okay, perfect.
So there's that.
[laughing]
What's cool is I had barely-
I had barely kissed anyone before you, Lindsey...
- You were my first kiss. - ...like, in my life,
like set kisses or whatever. And, um, it was us.
And it was- it was great
- It was great. - It was great.
Would we ever date each other again? Lindsey?
- Yes. - Cool.
[laughing]
- Cool! - Right?
Life's pretty- life's pretty wild.
Uh, like the way you come in and out of each other's lives.
So, am I closed off to that? No.
Interesting.
Uh, Lindsey, what was the worst date
you've ever been on?
The worst date I have ever been on?
[clearly throat]
It wasn't even a date because this guy was like,
"We ain't dating." I love how those words
can just like... gloss over whatever...
is actually happening.
You know what I'm saying? He was going to an audition.
His... car ran out of gas at a stop sign.
I Googled where the closest gas station was.
I was wearing shoes that are not conducive
to walking the three blocks
and back to the gas- like, this was long.
I walked to that gas station to get $20 worth of gas.
This dude is just, like,
he's acting like it's not happening.
He's literally denying it's happening in front of me
by just, like, being on his phone.
That should've been such a big red flag right there.
He ac- he reacted so poorly in that situation,
and I'm not saying that people can have their poor reactions,
but there was no like thank you, there was more like--
Yeah, it was just like--
The fact that you walked to get the gas
and he's like having an internal meltdown.
He was, like, embarrassed about it,
and I was like, "Dude, there's nothing
to be embarrassed for."
We just need to solve this situation.
Exactly and I'm totally here for you, like--
- That is a terrible date. - Yeah.
I don't want to- I-I don't even wanna think--
Oh, my God, Devon.
Give me a consequence.
[screaming]
You... have to wear...
♪ Your mustache For the rest of the time ♪
I grow some nice facial hair. Yeah.
- Do you? - I grow some sweet facial hair.
Yeah.
Did you know facial hair is mostly full of feces?
[crickets chirping]
That, uh, can't be true.
[laughing]
Makes no sense. Makes no sense. [laughing]
Cool! You're getting a mustache!
I have a mustache.
And once Lisa gets a look, it'll be good-bye boys
and hello the man.
♪ Oh, baby ♪
This is absurd!
One of the Mario Brothers. [laughing]
I do. I do. "It's a me."
Um, this is incredible.
[laughing]
Can I maka you a pizza?
Can I maka you a cannoli?
Can I maka you a linguine?
Oh, my God. Why do I feel like you're more yourself
with this beard on then you've ever been?
- Mustache. - I-I feel- I do- You're right.
You know me. I feel more me right now.
Cook! Nice mustache.
Oh, you noticed?
Daniel!
Did he call?
Hey, I'm on a plane.
Daniel, you are also on this Nick Rewind thing.
Hi. Say hey, Daniel.
Daniel, I love you! What's up, buddy?
I don't know why you're not a part of this.
I miss you so much. Where are you going?
To Nashville.
Are you shooting?
I'm teaching a class... some acting classes.
This guy, Daniel is my most- my heart has-
I love- I love Daniel.
Daniel and I- I don't know.
Since I've reconnected with him, I literally just feel like
a kindred spirit with this dude.
He's just always making things happen.
And he taught me the phrase
that dispassionate speech neutralizes everything,
and I thought it was just so brilliant.
It's like- yeah.
- Daniel, I love you. - So, anyway, I love him.
Have a great day. Thanks for calling back.
Yo, be tot- so safe.
Have a good flight!
I-I mean literally I can't get on the internet
without people going, like, they won't even say anything.
They'll just go, "Moze", "Cookie", um,
or, "Where's Cookie?", "Where's Moze?" That's it.
And now we know Cookie's on an airplane.
So there's your answer
kids who are going to comment,
"Where's Cookie during this?"
He's on an airplane!
It's not a paper airplane. It's the paper airplane.
I designed and built this baby all by myself.
The slightest breeze will take her flying.
Last question: What are you currently
working on, Lindsey Shaw?
My attitude problem. [chuckles]
[laughing]
I am currently working on my skills, my potential.
I am writing stuff.
I am doing stuff in front of a camera.
I am trying to be clever.
I am trying to evolve with the times.
Acting is so much different than what it used to be,
not only because of Covid, but just because evolution
is going faster now and things are different.
And things that were important to me once aren't as important
to me now so my priorities are changing.
Devon, what are you working on?
Man, I'm working on keeping my life together
without spiraling into a nightmare
of existential dread.
Huh? Uh, I am-
I recently did a web series with King Batch.
Uh, it's going to be on Facebook.
I'm working on music all the time.
I have a band now that's, uh, supposed to release music.
What is your band called?
Uh, the- the title is- is to be determined.
Uh, our names, to be determined, but... look out for it!
It's- our music's sick. Nice mustache, dude.
- Dude, that's really cool. - Look at you.
I can't believe you're in a band.
Thanks. Okay, we did it. We did our questions.
♪ We did it ♪
[laughing]
Look at this. Does this look weird?
Yes, it does.
Listen, I forgot to mention
that sometimes true art can anger people. Run!
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