[Questioner:] I have some confusions
with regard to thoughts.
If they are not mine,
are they like,
kind of like collective unconscious, that they pass through me?
[Mooji:] They have somehow come
and depending upon conditioning and identity and so on...
All beings,
no one escape that thought field.
It comes, it's part of the movement of Consciousness,
and the vital force; it produces the thought activity.
But, a greater power is there also.
The power to discern.
The intellect of the Being is able to sort of look and to evaluate,
to discern, to have the sense of choice,
to go with a thought or to just stay neutral.
This is your real power.
You can keep going with thoughts.
If you have a strong sense of identity,
you'd be more inclined to be
involved with thoughts -
because individuality or personality
thrives on thought energy. They go together.
You want to do. You want to this.
You don't want this.
You like this. You don't like this. All of this is thought energy.
But the more, somehow,
you become more aware of yourself as Consciousness,
the personal energy becomes more
distant, weaker, lighter.
And more the energetic presence
of Presence is more your energy field.
And it's very different, more pure
and more purely intuitive.
And then the delusional mind is something else.
It's more distant.
They cannot be together so much.
If there is intuition and then there is a lot of also delusion;
the mind is still very much active in the form of a person.
It's still there.
But this person is still not real.
The most...what is real is your Self, is real.
That something you have to wake up
out of this sleep,
of wrong identification.
This is what's causing the mischief.
This is why I say, For one moment, don't touch anything at all.
For some people, they say also, everything they touch turns dirty.
Everything's...because the mind is touching,
everything it touches it makes muddy.
So I said, Actually, we're going to use this,
it's going to become your good fortune.
So, now you leave everything that you call mind.
And you'll find that there's something independent of mind.
And, I'm telling you the same thing.
Just stay in this place.
So, even this question you're asking,
'So, you know, when the thought come like this...or whatever.'
You don't need to go to that. You can still just leave this.
If you can stay
in that place of neutrality,
not giving it so much -
whether this is intuitive, if the intuition is right,
or whether the mind is coming from the dark side.
You don't have to get into any of that!
I want to save you all that trouble.
Because,
you're the Self.
Somehow, in this manifestation in the body,
you are still the whole Self.
Then there's a sort of like a projection.
And the projection comes - the projection of Presence, or Being.
With that first extension, you get the feeling of existence,
like this body and I'm in this body...
That's the first extension of Pure Consciousness.
Then the feeling comes, 'I exist. I am in here.'
Then another extension, again.
And it comes, 'I am this body, I am me.'
'Person. Personality. I'm a woman. I'm a man.
I'm a doctor.' All this thing.
Then some pride comes.
A strong sense of attachment to identity come.
Then extend a bit more. Then the world and relationships.
And all of this is there.
This is why I was saying, like this thing, we were talking last time...
I said, even like that thing here we have
like that...[Mooji pulls out a fan]
If you say that this is your
metaphor of the Self.
It's one thing. So whether it's here, or extended,
it's still just the same thing.
It's one whole thing.
So, the first extension is the extension into the sense of Being.
I exist. This 'I exist' feeling. It's still one thing.
Then, extend more, then, 'I am this person, I am this person.'
Then full, 'I am the world and everything.'
When it's like this or this it's the same one-whole there.
So, I'm pointing you to your wholeness.
This wholeness, which is not particularly 'I prefer when I'm here.'
Or, 'I really prefer when I'm here, but I don't like it when I'm...'
No, not this. It's not have any thought activity.
It is the Whole. You are the Whole.
Intuitively, spontaneously, you can somehow hear that.
And, an inner response resonates with that understanding.
And you find that, 'But, I'm the whole, I'm the wholeness.'
Not a belief. Not merely belief.
Some trust initially, but after, it's pure experience.
Then the habits and tendency of the mind is [opens and closes the fan]
...something wants to go to this,
because that's the habit.
And, each time the habit comes, then something...[whoosh] goes off!
I'll go walking in the morning, sometimes go walking...
and then sometimes we have dogs come walking.
One dog's walking. He's quite happy
walking, with us, walking.
Then, every now and again,
it comes into another neighborhood of other dogs,
and they're (makes growling sounds).
They are very distracted in that moment.
Then the composure is lost.
Then, he goes off into fight, and then, after a bit,
then he come back walking again.
And then, another place and more dogs are (growling and fighting sounds),
And then after, they come and he has to catch me up again (mimicks a happy dog).
The mind is a bit like that. [Laughter]
The more it comes into
what is compatible with that vibration in time,
it goes and be in that vibration.
And then, when it's frustrated, it comes back.
And then, it returns to
it's more neutral vibration,
where it's happy and spacious.
Easily distracted.
But, if you hold on only to the sense of Being,
which is the highest point,
it's like you're looking from top of the hill.
You can see all the different parts going.
You can guide them more.
Then you don't have to be worried,
'How do I get to the top of the mountain?'
You are there already.
The mind wants to identify with this path.
And then you go identify, you find yourself climbing.
And I say, But you are just dreaming this.
And suddenly you find, 'But I'm just here.'
(Chuckling) It's a little bit like that.
If you have strong need to be on a journey,
you'll find yourself on one.
If you have the strong urge, that, 'I need to be home,'
very quickly you'll find yourself, you're home.
The more you become aware of yourself as Consciousness,
the personal energy becomes more distant, weaker,
and the energy of the Presence becomes stronger.
Video extract from the Satsang DVD
'Being Is Not Eternal, It is Timeless'
25th January 2012
Tiruvannamalai, India
www.mooji.org