Danny is going to search the criminal records, to see if he can find any trace
of Maryann but event after she came out of the workhouse oh if you buy you a cup
of tea you know
thank God clue what's gonna come up hopefully nothing and there's no crime
involved search all records so I found her name says she's a servant so no so
she did have a job says maryann Bhavan fouled at police call a crime having
been delivered of a child did by a secret disposition of the dead body
endeavor to conceal the birth thereof so she pleaded guilty
I did not expect that hopeful will be paying stealing's when
you feels you are new born in your arm and it's such a vulnerable little weak
little thing you know it always makes me fool
the idea of baby dying before I even gets started on this earth but the idea
of it being a baby they've old things not babies no I feel that you know I'm
starting this journey and I want to go to love these people I want to go to
love these people you know Pazuzu me blood you know I don't want to
I don't want to find out stuff like this
I've come into this thinking you know like
yeah I'd be quite detached from it and you know it's just bits of paper on
reading and stuff like that but it actually goes a bit deeper than that
Danny has come to the Bishopsgate Institute for further help unraveling
Maryanne but events criminal record he's here to meet historian dr. Daniel
gray please call me Daniel oh good man right my two-times
great-grandmother marry em there's what criminal record
was added naba and she pleaded guilty of endeavouring to conceal the birth of a
child so unlike nasa was 17 at this point yeah
so I don't know whether she was hoping some deliver someone else's Bible it was
her own child and I've even explained to me what it
means well I've found some documents which I'm hoping is gonna help you with
that so this is the copy of an indictment Mary Ann butter van delivered
of a certain female child on the 24th of February I can't can't wait that's
driving me mad in the county of London and within the jurisdiction of the said
Court by a certain secret disposition of the dead body of the said child to wit
by secretly placing the dead body of the said child in a pail so that's a bucket
and covering its dead body with ashes there with intent to conceal the
birthday off so what it's saying she's done is she's hidden the dead body of a
baby and that it's her baby that she's the one who's given birth to it I
thought that while bellicose so this is the death certificate daughter of Mary
Ann but event unmarried so what's really crucial here about cause of death is
that it says found dead a hemorrhage from umbilical cord from one proper
attention of both there's no evidence of violence no one's trying to hurt the
baby in any way what's happened is that shortly after giving birth when the
umbilical cords been cut no one's tied it and that means that you
can bleed to death very very quickly missus this is how I put it in my head
silliness is my family you know that she was seven eight maybe she didn't know
she was pregnant over sudden this baby starts to come out
and she then tries to deal with it herself
she doesn't know what to do she gets it wrong so imagine what that was like and
then of course she panics and puts the baby in a bucket just if there had been
a midwife there which most working-class women can arrange to hire on or at the
very least at the very least a local woman who's friendly and helps people
out informally because she's given birth herself just somewhat someone they would
have known to tie the cord and been able to do it quickly enough aged two minutes
yeah concealment of birth was a common offence in the Victorian period and
women could be prosecuted for hiding the dead body of a baby
it was the jury's job to decide whether or not the child had been intentionally
killed what she could have got and what they gives women who they suspect of
having deliberately killed their children two years imprisonment with
hard labor but this is basically a suspended sentence no jail time they
seem to have decided this was very much a tragic accident and I smashed a lot a
word for slightly relieved I think relief is totally understandable
yeah before she died in 1960 Mary Ann went on to have ten other children her
youngest Sylvie is now in her 90s and lives nearby in Poplar in East London
I haven't seen her since I was a baby tiny time it has been a long long time
but I'm really happy that there's somebody there's you know still alive
I can talk to gives me this access into this Victorian world I'm also very
nervous because I don't want so we had said I'm gonna get Sylvia is cared for
by her daughter iris Danny's distant cousin oh I'm sorry sue no come hello my
darling oh no I do apologize your yeah yeah yeah oh I thought is our but I
believe you may believe you Arnie Sylvie is your oldest living relative
no still not about beautiful thing oh no not to toes
well I'll find out some stuff about norm of AX near the end of the last couple of
days I don't know what you know some quite upsetting stuff she was well they
stand up I've no more mother for people to come up and say to her got a couple
of shitty slender sell girl she says now I've only got enough for myself but
she's Linamar washing to tape and poem to get a couple of all said our goal my
bum this is the only picture we've got of Marianne this is Mary Ann here
alright for me your mother amazing woman I so I found
out a little bit of research did you know that Mary Ann has got criminal
record alright Oh what it was it was concealing a dead baby alright so when
she was 17 it's got pregnant he said little girl and the little girl was two
minutes old that would've been yours
so obviously she was distraught sitting her the babysitting Hilda by which to
try to do it on our own she didn't she office Lee wasn't savvy
enough to Thailand cold the closer baby needs the cold to be tired because they
bleed out and a culture was so scared she she had it in a bucket yeah in a
bucket and someone value and so all that at the past I wouldn't have known
anything about because I was a young business after no change of course but
you didn't know that you had another sister no no no so she didn't say
nothing about her and I know one of us no she's never ever mentioned anything
like that did she say no do you how do you approach you so I mean to even come
through that and still be a decent human being says a lot about the woman yes
it's Spanish she lost the baby of seventeen because in later life she
delivered all the babies she delivered me she's living my sister she delivered
all the babies in the flats and they just call her Aunt Polly and say don't
get on Polly quick there's never baby coming so yes she turned out to be like
a midwife really if a baby come quick like there she would never touch a cold
yeah she'd wait for the nurse got there she would never do that herself
obviously because this blinds it though she was thinking back to happen to her I
suppose of course absolutely so that really does
make sense though yeah the obviously we're focused on the but events side of
it is there anything else you can tell me about Albert and Anne I was about
nine when my own parents died I think and he always said that gentleme bit of
bear image right small yourselves fob watch he originated from French by all
accounts he came from a very rich family very rich French family rich French
family's name was bootephant yeah possum on so there is some money
involved in our family although we never saw none
of it yeah go go up back cuz woman we never had any dogs in all mine none of
us
so it's lovely sea itself very interesting Albert I've altered these
birth certificates I'm gonna learn more about
I'll say honesty maybe how much he was worth it says any of that have friends
she was a my French our French a my and I look French and all that so
old fall for November 1851
I'm his born church line Whitechapel s range he's born in Whitechapel so he's a
Londoner name of mothers Hannah Sara name of father Charles okay he's
occupation of his dad Charles there's a commercial clerk that says like he could
be still worth money there's nothing about being friendly
though other than the name that sounds cocked in French my eyes bhavan whoever
you pronounce it bootephant I'd say Batman no he's not chasing it so
I need to find out more really
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