- Toni, would you say that Georgia was a cool mom?
- I, um,
yes.
[Laughs]
Yes. Yes, I would, you know?
Half the things that Ginny said to Georgia,
if I had said that to my own mom,
I would be a spot
on the floor.
So, I think Georgia is very cool,
very scary, though.
- Yeah, that's fair.
- Yeah.
- Especially, from Ginny's point of view.
- Yeah, especially.
- Probably, the most terrifying.
- [Antonia] What about this mother
and daughter relationship
do you think is different and unique
than what we've traditionally seen in TV shows and movies?
- It's really their past.
They've been through so much together.
Georgia has asked so much of Ginny.
She's had to grow up extra fast.
She's had to take care of her little brother.
Georgia has moved them around six or seven different times.
- 12, actually. - They've really had
to be, yeah, really independent,
and, in a way, that's exactly what has brought them so close.
They've always only had each other.
Like, we talk so much about the fact that Ginny
doesn't have a ton of friends.
Neither does Georgia.
Like - - [Antonia] Right.
Ginny and Austin are her whole entire world.
- Exactly. I think it just really shows how,
even though we do have all of those -
we're at each other's throats sometimes,
or, well, a lot of the time in the show,
I think those moments really show the history of them
and of that relationship, and of that family.
And I really, really do think that their friendship
is so important to them
that everything that's happening, that's falling apart,
makes it all the more heartbreaking.
Georgia would do anything for Ginny.
We've seen that.
She doesn't know it, but we've seen that.
- I think the fact that we're only eight years apart,
we were really able to go through
all of these motions together for the first time.
So many of our scenes, we are going at it.
- [Antonia] Yeah, those were the hard ones.
- We got to skip a bunch of steps.
Like, we got to go straight to the vulnerability
and the heart of it all, and really seeing each other
for these complicated, dynamic women
that Ginny and Georgia are.
- And, like, checking in
with each other after, like, those hard, tough scenes saying,
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[Laughs] - That was the hardest.
We would have to be jerks to each other, and then it's like,
"I love you, I'm sorry, come here."
- "I'm sorry."
- "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry."
[Laughs]
- [Brianne] So, we see Ginny and Georgia
butting heads at times.
What can we learn from them
about complicated female relationships,
especially mother and daughter,
or maybe even, friend to friend, you know, you and Max?
- I think it really shows the importance
of opening up a dialogue and how,
even though it's really difficult
to talk about some things, it's really important.
The women in other women's lives,
women supporting each other,
is very, very incredibly special.
And I think,
you know, when we see them going through,
you know, the secrets, and they're airing out
everybody's dirty laundry,
we're all the more saddened by it
because we've seen such a beautiful relationship.
Whether it's with Ginny and Maxine or with,
you know, those rare, tender moments
between Ginny and Georgia.
And I think people who watch the show
will come to realize that fostering relationships
with the people in your life is very important.
And hopefully, you know, people can feel like
we're part of their family too,
and that "M.A.N.G." is a part of their friendship too.
So, I definitely think it would be cool to be a part of that.
- And it shows, too, that nobody is perfect.
- Right. - And that's what I love
about all of these characters,
that despite their imperfections, they are able to connect
and be patient with each other and understand each other,
and hear each other out.
I feel like we have to have a break down
in order to get to our breakthrough after Ginny's birthday.
- Wow.
[Snaps]
- Thank you.
- That was beautiful. I agree.
[Laughs]
- [Brianne] Why is Ginny's story so important to unpack
and what are audiences,
especially the young-adult audiences,
you think, going to see in this and take away?
- I think Ginny is an example of the kind of world
that we live in today.
She's biracial.
There are plenty of, plenty, plenty of
multicultural families, and multicultural people,
and multiracial households,
that you don't normally see portrayed,
or at least you didn't.
Now, it's becoming more normal
and I'm loving to see
inclusiveness and diversity on screen.
Just because it simply reflects everyday life,
and I think, you know, she is just like
every teenage girl, really.
She has that fragility.
She's trying to discover who she is, you know, at that age.
And even now, adults don't get it.
I mean, adults still haven't gotten it down.
That's why it's a coming-of-age story
for both her, and her mother.
It's not like, you one day wake up with all the answers.
So, I think for Ginny,
there are a lot of questions that she has.
Questions about her identity.
Questions about her sexuality.
Questions about her race and where she belongs in the world,
and these are all things that I went through
as a teenager, too, when I was a kid.
And I know that a lot of people go through that.
So, to be able to show that on screen,
and to have been able to collaborate
with Sarah, the show creator,
has been such a special, special experience,
and I will always, always value that.
- [Brianne] So we have a plethora of love triangles.
- [Antonia] Yeah. - [Brianne] Who do you think
Georgia should end up with?
- Oh my gosh.
OK, well obviously you know,
for Ginny's sake, I really wanted her and Zion
to like, you know, stick together for once.
That was so, so, so, so heartbreaking, when he leaves.
And by the way, your performance in that scene
is -
Just stole my breath away, because we really feel it.
We really feel her heart, you know,
for her penguin.
But, she's got this amazing thing with Paul.
So, even the audience is probably going to be like,
I mean, I know I was like,
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- When we're in the kitchen, he's talking about
that this smells like home.
- Yeah. So, I would say Zion for Ginny's sake,
but for my personal feelings, I love Joe.
- [Brianne] Yeah. - [Antonia] He's just,
I mean, Paul, you know, he's successful.
He can move on.
Like, he's got a list of women
waiting at the door. - Paul has options.
- But, Joe is just so sweet,
and I think they would be great together.
[Laughs]
Who do you think Ginny should be with?
We've got Hunter. - [Brianne] Mhm.
- [Antonia] We've got Marcus. - [Brianne] Mhm.
- Look - [Laughs]
- Netflix and Marcus pulled on all my,
like, '90s heartstrings of, like,
classic '90s heartthrob,
neighbor climbing into the window.
- John Hughes movie.
I'm just kidding. - Exactly.
It was everything.
Ah, so I think that's what Brianne would say.
But, we know who Georgia wants you to be with.
- Right. That's true.
Georgia would say Hunter. - Exactly.
- Yeah. - All moms everywhere
would probably say Hunter.
- Yes, he has - all of his extracurriculars
are very impressive.
He's, you know - - He drives a Porsche.
- He drives a Porsche. [Laughs]
- He's gonna end up at an Ivy League.
His family is charming.
So - - Yeah.
- Good options. - OK.
- [Antonia] So Brianne, I know you've never
murdered anyone, right?
- Do you know that?
- I guess, I don't know that.
But, Georgia has murdered not just one, but -
- [Brianne] No.
- At least a couple of people.
- That we know of.
- Right, right.
- So, by the end of the show,
when the ashes are being spread across
the sea of faces in the fireworks.
- Yeah, yeah.
What do you think audiences should feel?
Should they be on Georgia's side?
Should they be rooting for her?
I mean, she's done so much, you know,
we know why, but is it enough to justify
the fact that she's -
[Mimics screeching sound]
- Look, justifying murder is a pretty tough one.
And I love my fair share of true crime.
[Laughs] However,
we know why Georgia did what she did.
And, it comes from
the part of her that is incredibly pained,
due to the circumstances that she had to grow up with.
Georgia is a true survivor.
She was the victim of sexual abuse.
And, I think the thought of Ginny finding herself,
anywhere even remotely close to that,
is not allowed. - Not the answer.
- No, that - - Yeah, absolutely not.
- That can't happen.
And Georgia, I mean, as we see, will do anything
to stop that.
So -
- Yeah. [Laughs]
- I will say, my mother will stop at nothing
to root for Georgia,
and just, she's just like, "She's just protecting her kids.
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I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, Mom. We get it. We get it."
But, it's true. - It can be
a little polarizing.
- It's a little polarizing,
but, I think that just shows how complex the character is,
and how acrobatic your performance was for it,
for you to be able to be that likable, but also that dark.
- So Toni, where do we think Ginny is driving off to,
in the middle of the night,
with her brother on the back of the motorcycle with her?
- Right, yes.
Well, a keen eye will note, one of the many Easter eggs
in the show.
While she's packing her bag, she grabs that book
that Zion gave to her.
So, based on that information, we can safely assume,
probably, that she would be heading to her dad's apartment
in Boston.
- Right. - At least you'd hope,
because I don't know how well Ginny would do on the streets.
She's very book-smart,
but I don't think she has Georgia's street smarts, so.
- You can't have it all.
- Yeah, you can't have it all, as we can clearly see.
But, what about Georgia?
Where do you think Georgia is headed in all of this?
- I think Georgia is headed to take over the world, maybe.
I think there's like, a little 'Pinky and the Brain' thing
going on here.
[Laughs] And yes,
I think Georgia is just gonna keep climbing that ladder.
- [Antonia] For sure.