over the weekend sixty minutes
went after the sovereigns citizen movement something the most americans
have never even heard of
and uh... and sixty men said
actually they went after alford i'd ask
if i'm pronouncing his name right specifically
and uh... so he's with us here today alfred ask a constitutional sovereign
citizen a blogger radio host american independence our
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alfred one of the program
toward r_u_ triumph fine thank you very much
arm
let me play the justice sharpy's this clip from sixty minutes and i'd love to
hear your response to a refrigerator surprised if you didn't have okay
here here is for dad is still does he's never advocated violence
yet listen to what he said won his internet radio show we do not have the
right to keep and bear arms
so we can go to our country
we have the right to keep and bear arms in order to show
killed our own politicians where the reset we have the right to keep and bear
arms nor to shoot a home politicians
we have the right to keep them there are situations about the cause of that plan
that you know it's because sixteen inches contracts it out and and concert
on the head
on the art you only about a enough
uh...
i want to talk about that i am
first of all time
by i'm hoping that that you've read
the debates in the constitutional conventions
in the notes of james madison and the federalist papers about why and how the
second medicare about
and that it was based on the constitution of pennsylvania and that
the constitution of pennsylvania
uh... i thirteen i'm reading a rare said that the people shall have the right to
bear arms for the defense of themselves and the state and as standing armies in
time of peace are dangerous to liberty they ought not to be capped op
military should be kept under strict subordination to an governed by the
civil power that was the seventeen seventy-six passage to pennsylvania in
the seventeen ninety they modified that to say the freemen this commonweal shall
be armed undisciplined
for its defense
those who scrupulously are those who conscientiously scribble
to bear arms others those who are conscientious objectors
shall not be compelled to do so but should pay any quibbling for personal
service
so basically this was a draft
anywhere saying
no no army during times of peace which was jefferson's position
in any of those documents and i've red medicines notes i've read the federalist
papers at least two or three times no were any of them does is say that people
should have weapons in order to take on politicians
work first off wonder if we're going to have weapons
if we're going to get weapons
and at the same time there should be a prohibition on a standing army during
times of peace by agreeing would have that standing army
during a time of peace
and the answer would be the government
immediately east implies that the purpose of the second amendment is to
defend us against that government and potentially standing army nesler silas
it certainly is the opposite that that that the purpose of of ul of making sure
that people have the right to be armed
is so that they can defended the government because
the government is not since we the people at the state of the whole idea
the communist country
better lawyers here's where i rely
and for what it's worth
to quote that was
that sixty minutes hammered all run over
right used economic context inter sent
five that sit back and i could do a lot in common blunder
i could do a historical analysis
and i could say that there was a time when black people in this country were
held as slaves because they were deemed to be or because kid there's a grown man
ical
inconsistency but because they're deemed to be animals
and sixty minutes could come back and say well alfred adults said that black
people are animals well
you have technically but that's not what i said that was not help plays bridges
are going to just basically reaffirms that you believe that the reason
that people should have weapons in the united states is to take on
our government
that ok cleverly traverses so it's not a context
banana and and and it was like context in this regard
it's very protectors against the government if in the government becomes
too radical or despotic
is not a license to go shooting every cop you see it every judge and just say
hey i got a second on the right to plug anybody who looks at me funny but this
is this is where i go out but i i i think that's
you know i a m spent
end there and we have
actually history revolution this country and we have a history of
internal revolution both the revolutionary war the civil war and you
know the the the second one didn't turn out quite so well but uh... yeah i know
in terms of the look at
was a success doesn't people died as a moral issue to whatever was
but
there are members of the sovereign citizens movement i mean you in south
carolina is going to kill two thousand tech texas killed three uliaski killed
two
uh... i don't
the aren't you concerned that
you're awful close to lighting the fuse that we shouldn't be lighting
i think people should be concerned
about others who are awful close to lighting up used to suppress the truth
quotes the truth and simply the truth is
there's a preamble
to the bill of rights
you can look at up if you google would go up look gogo two preamble to bill
rights and you'll get to the document
and it says the senate seats this is the document that was attached to bill right
when they were sent out the states for ratification
and it says in part
the conventions of a number of the states having at the time of their
adopting the constitution
expressed a desire
order to prevent miss construction or abuse of its powers
now they're talking about the powers of the constitution parent
that further declared foreign restrictive clauses should be added
these declaratory and restrictive clauses are the bill of rights
and i would love for us as a referee ca
gere's analysis correspondences on that you're right
erotica what does that have to do with a modern-day movement of
people who say innale
this is in our country were where it seems to be like that's what you're
saying amma is not
my point
my point i'm on this program because i've been taken out of context conveyed
quoted me as saying something that is historically correct and they said oh my
god he's he's lighting accuse i'm not doing anything and telling people this
was
the fundamental purpose of the second amendment as envisioned by the founders
it is to prevent this construction an abuse of the powers the constitution
there's only one group of people who can misconstrue and abuse the powers of the
constitution the united states
and that's the officers officials and employees of the government of the
united states orchestra practical question sort of a point to al sent was
there to prevent those abuses i would also need to look at the choot them
alright within you know will will agree to disagree on that point this i'm not
going to convince you otherwise and you know i'm a bit
system practical question the minute we have left
how do you take on
an army that's got helicopters and now you know look over
with the u_s_ military's
pretty it pretty ferocious particularly now that bush underwear bras economic
ties
you haven't here's the point
the u_s_ military has been bogged down in iraq for what seven eight years now
them iraq is a nation about the size of the population of texas and it's about
all the military can handle
the truth of the matter is the military is outnumbered about three hundred to
one in this country and if they want to come in and set up the military and all
we have a car bricks
if you can get a hundred bricks thrown at somebody at the same time i don't
care if he's got a fifty caliber machine gun he's going down and that's why i
think the path of these generations into rear square if your if you're upset with
the government why not take
the path of non-violence about the martin luther king took
rather than yeah i've got a gun logout
i'm not advocating that we shouldn't for twenty eight years i have been involved
as a political activists
and what i've done throughout their
is advocate we can solve the problem with paypal
america king would resort to violence but i am grateful i am observing that
this shrine but in the constitution
passing conversation offered ask a constitutional sovereign citizens
movement
card as the escape dot wordpress dot com hand the american boy stuff and thank
you sir