No evidence at all regarding millions of Nephites or Lamanites in americas
as well as incorrect claims regarding jerusalem's geography mentioned in the book of mormon
also you guys have a great history of removing my comments it hurts my feelings.
Sorry Logan this is redemption you're being featured on an episode now
hello again welcome back to Saints Unscripted with me and David we're basically like the same person
on on many things not all things we know that for a fact we know what we disagree on
yeah we do but like bearded white guy like just we're pretty similar sorry about maybe I should
shave my head or something I don't know I'm not sorry I'll emulate you as long as i can oh great
well today uh you want you want to explain what we're doing we're just responding to comments it's
that complicated yeah is that that i love these episodes these are really fun actually yeah i
wish we could do more of these um and every time we do them we only respond to like five comments
and there but there's so many that i would love to respond to although i've just barely started
reading them and i and i i didn't want to read them because i want you know you want that first
exposure i want you guys to see every wrinkle of my brow when i read these offensive comments
uh but actually a lot of them are pretty good so that's nice maybe i'll start out go for it
okay so on the the episode uh could joseph smith have written and recited the book of mormon from
memory brandon wilson said i loved this and you brought up some amazing points i often think about
thank you brendan i appreciate that there are often points that i think about as well
um clearly yeah that i think more people should think about because they're they're quite salient
if i may say um do you want to take one sure this is from dna evidence of the book of mormon though
does dna evidence prove the book of mormon is false and uh i want to say jorge tranco
one says the explanation in this video is one of the most stupid attempts to defend
the book of mormon all right thank you very much jorge um i appreciate the uh the academic
exposition there with uh that comment you you very clearly negated the points made in the video
clearly i actually did couldn't consult a a geneticist like a credential an lbs geneticist
he was actually but like when it comes to like dna evidence of like the the united states area there
have been like four papers written academic papers and he's like co-written like three of them just
like crazy credentialed guy because he's smarter than me of course like i went to an expert on that
um and the principles outlined in that video are like they're legit principles i don't know
like it was so stupid for anyone to be able to say like oh i took a blood sample of these people i
know exactly where they came from that's a pretty big thing to say yeah you could probably estimate
with some degree of confidence but you can never know for sure and so like the whole purpose of
the of that episode wasn't to be like the book of mormon is true because of this it's more like that
their argumentation against the book of mormon isn't really valid because yeah is that all jorge
said you just said that's it that's all they say man that's that's that can be like a period that
can be frustrating sometimes because it's like all this research and work and then like you just
one guy stupid that was stupid oh but that's okay you know people are gonna feel that way
okay so are these all from faith and beliefs episodes i think they are i guess that makes
sense that's uh what we work on here's what we do uh okay so from benjamin gardea on the video
to joseph smith steal the temple endowment from freemasonry he says circular reasoning
using abraham's being influenced by egypt as proof of the revelatory process joseph used is all based
on the same assumption that there is divine influence and not just men making things up
if you're coming from an atheistic perspective or a non-christian perspective
that probably makes sense yeah so the idea here was that in some of our temple ceremonies some
of the things we do resemble things that freemasons do and joseph was a freemason
and so we're talking about how joseph could have borrowed some things from freemasonry and given
them a different purpose for our faith and uh some people say oh he just made it all up obviously but
then i bring up the point that father abraham the chris the father of christianity uh did the same
thing with things like circumcision which was a sign of the abrahamic covenant he didn't invent
circumcision he borrowed it from or at least it looks like he borrowed it from the egyptians
after his visit to egypt um but if you didn't believe abraham was a prophet then then yeah
i get what you're saying benjamin i guess this video was more produced for a christian audience
if you're an atheist then that's a different ball game so so i hear you on that one fair
enough fair point this one comes from the what is the joseph smith translation of the bible or jst
randy t says if it is not canonized then why is it in the official lds download of the bible it
is either canonized or not make up your mind um it's not in the download in the lds download of
the bible there are footnotes um for interesting things like in our version of the bible or in our
in our print of the bible uh so yeah there are jst footnotes but we don't have the jst
bible we don't use the jst bible yeah we don't even own the copyrights to the jst bible
that's the community of christ i haven't explored all of the the the archives of what is available
to download on the church's app but uh there are lots of things that are not canonized that
are available on the app i imagine even like i don't know if that is available or not but like
probably most of everything on the gospel library app is not canonized right what's canonized
are the book of mormon the doctrine and covenants the pearl of great price
and the bible that's like the latter day saint cannon yeah but anyways okay could
joseph smith have written and recited the book of mormon from memory this was from this
is a recent video so we probably have more comments about that star legend says cool
i agree man thanks star legend it's very cool um let's see it's neat okay so this is another one by
logan d beck it's neat how you pointed out all the small details nailed in the book of mormon but why
didn't you mention all the inconsistencies like perhaps horses and steel in ancient north america
or maybe a mere quotation from the book of hebrews no evidence at all regarding millions of
nephites or lamanites in americas as well as incorrect claims regarding jerusalem's
geography mentioned in the book of mormon also you guys have a great history of removing my
comments it hurts my feelings sorry logan this is redemption you're being featured on an episode now
okay so what i would say regarding horses and steel okay so there are a lot of anachronisms
uh which if you don't know what that word is maybe we should put the definition up here somewhere
um uh that people claim exist in the book of mormon we've done an episode about
anachronisms in the book of mormon uh we haven't done literally episodes on horses and then steel
and then all these different things because there are too many of them and it would literally be
a full-time job for me to just do videos like that's all you would get for like the next five
years worth of faith and beliefs episodes yes um but the and i'm bad every single one
that probably sounds really bad for the book of mormon no i just mean that uh like
addressing each concern like there are answers to each concern but to take the time to address
every little one would take a lot a very long time but the anachronisms episode goes over the
trend of these anachronisms and it's looking quite good for the book of mormon you may enjoy it but
um it bothers me so much this is just like a side note but like
the video was specifically what is that a comment on i'm memorizing the book of mormon oh yeah
the video was specifically about whether or not it was feasible to memorize and so you mentioned
the consistencies why would you have brought up all the the anachronisms in that video like
of course you're not going to mention those things why do people expect you to address every possible
facet of the subject when the video is clearly about one subject like yeah go find the episode
where we did address it yeah and get off of this video speaking of which or maybe a mere quotation
from the book of hebrews yes we've done an episode on why bible passages show up in the book of
mormon please check that out um no evidence at all regarding millions of nephites or lamanites
in the americas okay we've done an episode on archaeology please go check it out um incorrect
claims regarding jerusalem's geography i'm not sure what he's is this the bethlehem i think
it's the birth bethlehem versus oh yeah we've done an episode on that please go check it out
um i i mean if you didn't know those episodes existed then yeah i'm trying to be generous
towards you logan but but yeah just go check out what we have done on those subjects and you should
be squared away all right this was uh uh from the joseph smith married a 14 year old this is bb17 it
says hey dave i sent you a message over facebook asking a question i'd love to hear back from you
b17 bv17 ah okay so the tough thing is that when i get a message on facebook
it says like their actual names usually okay like me so i don't know who b17 is if i hope i like i
i check i i check my message requests and i have like the public page on facebook that i check
so if you send me a message i should have gotten it if i haven't keep trying to figure
out what the heck's going on because because i i don't you know messages you probably got it yeah
um okay so the episode do the kinder hook plates prove joseph smith was a false prophet code nine
said i like this guy's approach a pro i think that's supposed to be approach i think it's a
crotch uh but i like this guy's approach but still disagree with the church of lds
that's that's cool man fair enough if we could you know if you can take somebody who disagrees with
the church and you could appeal to him like i like you know to the point where he likes your approach
that's a win yeah that's good and the thing is like as latter-day saints
guess what if you don't join our church we don't think you're gonna suffer in hell for
eternity man isn't that that's a great thing so um so if you don't want to join our church
that's fine i hope you good luck on on wherever you end up all the best there
are great people and and you know wherever you look in any faith out there so amen thank you
this is uh also from joseph smith of written and recited the book of mormon from memory uh this
is secured party he says great video not sure if you've done one on an analysis of the book from a
translational standpoint with word order dot dot dot hebrew translational examination that too is
highly compelling yeah that's that's that would be an interesting topic we'll have to look into that
let's see we've got joseph smith married a 14 year old worldwide roach oh that sounds like a very
authoritative source of information worldwide um said joseph smith's minor wives helen mark kimball
age 14 fanny alger age 16 sarah and whitney age 17 florian woodworth age 16 the list goes on um
also don't forget that joseph smith would send men away on missions and then marry their wives this
happened at least a dozen times uh i need to do an episode on that because that's that's that's
an important claim to explore this uh sneaky i'm skipping that word abusive womanizer is your
prophet we've actually done a whole episode on whether polygamy was about you know getting with
women getting with women so you can check that out but the thing is like the title of the video
is joseph smith married a 14 year old like so again like what you said like it's gonna be about
his marriage to the 14 year old how can we address everything else not all these other women like yes
we know he married a lot of women we're getting around to we're talking about that yeah we'll
we'll get there but like by like making an episode about helen mark kimball we're not like saying
we're hiding all of this other information just like be patient be chill we're gonna get there
we'll get there okay justin snyder says you guys really need to step out of your own bubble i was
mormon for 21 years and the truth is uncomfortable and it hurts but i have found the true biblical
jesus and i'm grateful for that don't follow religion follow jesus also joseph read the bible
frequently his parents were school teachers he wasn't a stupid kid and that comes from memorizing
the book of mormon as well i think in that episode don't i specifically say that joseph wasn't stupid
he wasn't stupid but even his own wife described him as ignorant and unlearned because because
obviously joseph wasn't stupid i mean he did have a third grade frontier education and his own wife
described him as ignorant and unlearned but he wasn't you know an idiot clearly was not an idiot
but i don't know step out of our own bubble geez david don't you ever get out of utah i
was raised in oregon man oregon that's far from the utah bubble but and you served your mission in
mexico yeah you spent time down in new zealand yeah well that was on a church thing so oh well
still okay it was like it yeah yeah new zealand one doesn't work that was very church oriented yes
that was your mission but yeah that was too but you still were raised in oregon fair enough yeah
well let's stick with the origin yeah yeah cut that as the rest of it out um okay why was joseph
smith killed nicola tesla says as a devout member and libertarian this was disturbing to learn
truth fears no scrutiny i think she's probably he or she is probably referring to the destruction
of the naubo expositor this was against the first amendment we see the destruction of society due to
censorship today on this very platform and others this very platform oh i'm assuming she's talking
about youtube in general yeah probably not just our channel because we are actually we let a lot
go in our comment sections yeah uh the prophet did er regardless of his reasons yeah i tend to agree
with that uh you probably shouldn't have burned down the naboo expositor um radical but also or
at least instigated it to the city council but it was like a wild west it was a it was
the frontier man like they were on the edges of society yeah it just has an interesting way of
using the law it doesn't make it right no i'm not saying that right but i am explaining like but
there was kind of a double standard right now but he did say i still know he was and was and is the
prophet of the restoration however he was human yes very true nicolette tesla yeah and you're
probably right he probably shouldn't have jumped to that extreme he probably could have done some
other things but i mean it was a dangerous time here's one for you taylor so on the did joseph
smith hypnotize the witnesses of the golden plates the mormon sorceress well that's an interesting
name says did you have to play that creepy jungle book song i did it was an absolute necessity
it was how could you not you're talking about hypnotizing who's the first uh kaw was just one of
the very first characters that i think of i think of hypnotizing people classic so he's a classic
we should play that song again just for her irritate the mormon sorceress trust in me
was joseph smith the con man sir sid fosse says i wouldn't buy a used car from that nerd ball
i probably wouldn't either because he probably didn't know anything about cars considering they
weren't even invented at that time yes sir probably just be like this looks pretty good
so i probably wouldn't buy a used car from him either but so i know that he's trying to like be
be kind of a punk in that comment but i thought it was really funny i like the use of the word nerd
ball joseph smith has been called many things but i've never seen nerd well yeah that's a good one
that's a new one for me how does the book of mormon fit into old testament history cassidy
mccurdy said you guys make the best videos thank you thank you cassidy we appreciate that we do
appreciate it anyways we didn't get to all these no there were a lot there's always a lot there's
too many that's why we sometimes monitor the comments on youtube and try to respond you know
with our own comments yeah but not always able to we'd love to but but uh times would not allow it
but we love you all so much thank you for watching and have a great day yeah okay see you guys